it will be after her wall street cabal has ratfucked Bernie out of it and it's too late to save the election.

Are donors to American Crossroads and End Spending Action.

They're the Republicans who are currently running ads mocking both our candidates official campaign ads, attacking the other candidate, and making it not-so obvious that they weren't official ads.

In fact, ESA used Bernie's own logo in their ad, which I wonder is truly legal (is it so much in the media that he doesn't have control over who uses his intellectual property when used in a SuperPAC ad run against him?).

I think if artists can complain when their songs are co-opted without their permission, so should candidates against the SuperPACs. At least, it would be a great example for Bernie to use about how why the reform is needed.

We could listen to Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the retired chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

Or we could listen to you.

I'm at a loss

not women?

It's more sexist to try to put a sexist or misogynist label on everything anti Hillary.

until you're not.

Silly is the last word she should be thinking of. She is not a first grader.

This is a recipe for political paralysis: the slightest hint of error will be used to halt a political campaign.

If the FBI indicts Clinton, they must have enough evidence with a 100% probability of conviction. If a presidential candidate drops out, goes on trial and is acquitted, there will be heck to pay, beginning with the resignation of Comey, the FBI director.

Both for screwing people and lack of morals...the other details hardly matter.

Her claims that Powell or others did it too, or that they weren't labeled at the time are, at best, disingenuous.

If not, then I am not sure how her campaign people can say it's the exact same. It's not even close. A few emails here and there ending up in personal accounts or servers is not the same as 100% of your emails over a 4 year period going to a private server. It was a massively stupid decision and it is going to be a weakness in the general election, regardless of how much the party elites in the primary want to sweep it under the rug (this includes Bernie who helped her sweep it under the rug with his statements at the debate).

If they do, I'm sure it will come up.

They both have great reputations to associate yourself with....no?

If you're going to pick.someone for comparison, it should probably not be 2 Republicans, especially old Condi.

Do we want a President who always has the excuse at her disposal "It's ok because Bush did it!"

Plus Obama didn't find out about her setup until the story broke. Plus she was by rule supposed to have turned all those emails over before leaving office, so she violated that as well, though not as big a deal.

Thanks for that info, she had me fooled too.

It seems you are saying Hillary's situation is worse because she had a private email server rather than using a personal account with an ISP? From a technical perspective, I don't see how the latter email solution is inherently more secure.

she had 4 years worth of government documents stored on a non-government server. If it was only a few emails then I could understand the point her campaign was trying to make.

or did we miss an announcement?

Last I checked running for president isn't a requirement to getting indicted for breaking the law.

than a Clinton indictment. At least for us...

therefore the excuse that "Powell did it too" is exceptionally inadequate

That's really hard to believe. Source?

What would Democratic Underground be without them?

The mission statement of the Clinton Foundation is: “To bring people together to take on the biggest challenges of the 21st century.” A nice vague statement that could be used to justify just about anything. Questions have come up about the transparency of the foundation’s fund-raising from foreign governments and corporations. There is a concern about donations to the foundation being used as bribes for Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State and as President of the United States.

Bill Allison, a senior fellow at the Sunlight Foundation, said in April 2014,

“It seems like the Clinton Foundation operates as a slush fund for the Clintons.”

A very curious agreement between the State Department and the Clinton Foundation (arranged at the beginning of the Secretary of State Clinton’s tenure) came under scrutiny from the Wall Street Journal. During February, 2015, they found the Clinton Foundation had, once again, begun accepting donations from foreign governments. Contributions from foreign donors to U.S. political candidates are considered bribes, and against the law. These “contributions” constitute a major portion of the Clinton Foundation’s income.

The Washington Post investigated donations by foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation during the secretary’s tenure, and found six cases where such governments continued making donations at the same level they had before Clinton became secretary. In March, 2015, Reuters reported the Clinton Foundation had failed to keep its commitment to publish all of its donors, as well as its promise to let the State Department review all donations from foreign governments. In April, 2015, the New York Times reported that when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, the State Department had approved a deal to sell American uranium to Russians who had donated to the Clinton Foundation.
http://thebernreport.com/bribes-donations-flow-into-the-clinton-campaign/

This article contains embedded links to Washington Post, Reuters and New York Times articles.

Don't think I could get that lucky though. lol

e witness at the June 10 House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing was tossing the equivalent of red meat to his Republican questioners, who were practically slavering in gratitude.

President Barack Obama’s plan to impose “snapback sanctions” should Iran violate a nuclear deal? “Wishful thinking.”

The awkwardness of having U.S. trainers and Iranian forces both in Iraq helping to counter a common enemy? “We have allowed this thing to get so out of kilter.”

The president’s June 8 remark that “we don’t yet have a complete strategy” for training Iraqi forces to combat the Islamic State? “I was stunned by his comments,” the witness said. “Stunned.”

But the wiry, sharp-featured man giving the representatives what they wanted and then some was no pundit from a right-leaning think tank, nor was he an alumnus of former President George W. Bush’s administration. No, the man in the gray suit sounding the alarm over the current administration’s approach to the Middle East was none other than Obama’s most recent director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/06/19/out-of-uniform-and-into-the-political-fray/

again just a fantastic human being you found to press your case.

This is on the airwaves in America tonight. IMHO one of the cool things about DU is
that I hear about stuff here FIRST, then get to discuss it with others. Last I heard
DU is not simply a pro-Clinton echo chamber.

I'm no fan of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn .. Hell I want to cut the Pentagon budget in half.

but of course then you couldn't use him to slime Hillary which is your purpose in life.

if this is going to take her out during the GE.

Hills boasts so much about "being fully vetted" ... yet stuff keeps cropping up,
and appears to not be going away any time soon, despite Bernie helping Hills
to push it back under the rug.

You know what I call that? A good start. Cut it in half again after that. Or at least get it down to a 3rd what it is right now.

draing the US Treasury ... I hear you...

The Pentagon is supposed to be for the citizens of the United States not just a strong arm to keep corporations safe in hostile nations like Iraq.

She would never get anything done as a president. It would be one impeachment after another.

"In fact, one of those Democrats is Flynn himself. “I’m a registered Democrat,” he said, before adding that he was “about as centrist as possible.” As a boy, he would help arrange bus rides for Democratic voters on election days in his hometown. “I’m not a politician, but if someone were to look it up right now, I’m a registered Democrat, and I’m okay with that,” he said."

Drive that bus.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/06/19/out-of-uniform-and-into-the-political-fray/

since Obama named her Secretary of State. The facts are what they are. The man has spent hours of his retirement trashing Obama to everyone and anyone who will listen. He trashed the Iran deal as well.

He sounds like a regular on Fox News.

I want to pretty much demilitarize the United States.

However this news story is not going way apparently, even though Bernie
tried to help Hillary sweep it under the rug.

that he wanted to discuss the issues and not get into rumors, etc.

I have heard him subsequently comment in a subtely different tone.

He just didn't want to perpetuate the sensationalizing that was a fever pitch during that debate.

And he only stated 'your damn emails'.

The server was a different issue entirely.

I don't really think what Bernie said, constituted "helping Hillary sweep it under the rug".

about "I don't really think what Bernie said, constituted "helping Hillary sweep it under the rug".

My comment was of a facetious nature, but there's no DU smilie for that yet.

Online communication.

Hard to nuance stuff!

investigating, uh...issues "surrounding" her, her staff, and the Clinton Foundation simultaneously, none of which are known vast right wing conspirators.

will bet anyone $50 on the barrelhead that HRH is going to be indicted in the next couple of months.

I know I don't have the nerve to take that bet.

I don't care for the Clintons and I wish Hillary would just drop out so Bernie could wrap up the nomination and get to work uniting the party, but the Clintons have too much power to be taken down like this. At least IMO.

and I have seen no such story.

At least that's who the CNN guy is, in the video.

Anyone in this position would have been SoS so they would be, by default, fairly wealthy and powerful.

Any rank-and-file person with clearance, I guess I should say.

I think Clinton should drop out and let Sanders have the nomination. Let him prove that he is as amazing as he says he is.

The Pentagon on Tuesday announced it nominated US Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn to be the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. However it was actually President Barack Obama who nominated Flynn, who must now be confirmed by the Senate.

http://www.examiner.com/article/us-army-general-michael-flynn-tapped-to-be-director-of-the-defense-intelligence

And they do a pretty good job sometimes.

I watched the interview today, and this clown is clearly a simple Clinton hater from the word go. I was wondering why CNN would even invite such an unweilding attack dog on to discuss a topic he was so single focused on..."she should quit!"

Fucktard. I don't know where he came from, in reality, but I definitely know where he is headed. "Tomorrow's fox-nonsense pundit."

Maybe "bad appointment" isn't the right phrase to use. He has made some appointments to persons of poor character, both in the economic arena and the defense arena.

I don't give a FUCK who did it before.

but if she does need to drop out, I do care that it happens before the GE,
rather than during the GE, with her as the Democratic nominee.

And as the clock keeps ticking, this issues does not seem to be going away, but only
worsening.

Besides it is a personal opine.



From your op.

Former Obama intel official: Hillary Clinton should drop out
By Nicole Gaouette * Feb. 12, 2016 * CNN

But of course you knew that right?

What this illustrates however, is how vulnerable Hillary is becoming, the longer
this ever-expanding FBI investigation keeps dragging out; an investigation that
apparently now includes the Clinton Foundation and how it benefited financially
from shadowy arms deals with Saudi Arabia and other questionable ME players.

I would not want this kind of cloud hanging over ANY Democratic nominee, going
into the General Election. It's a prescription for a disastrous GOP win of the WH.