2016 Postmortem

riversedge

(70,242 posts) Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:36 PM Feb 2016

Sanders said he will create a Political Revolution by record turn out--that claim is at the Center

of his speeches--the center of his theory of a political revolution- -it is his claim for why he is electable--Maddow reporting just now
But she does on to say--it is NOT the reality so far.

Turnout of Democrats fell in both Iowa and NH not all that great for Dems. Better for Republicans.

But Nevada voter registration is up. up for both Dems and Republicans.

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Sanders said he will create a Political Revolution by record turn out--that claim is at the Center (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2016 OP

You left out the part about Nevada. azmom Feb 2016 #1

If there was going to be a revolution it would have happened when Bush was president. upaloopa Feb 2016 #2

You must not know anything about the young people of this country. Avalux Feb 2016 #4

Bernie had more votes in NH than any other Dem candidate since John Kennedy. Avalux Feb 2016 #3

Jon Rolston saying the NV caucus is relatively new compared to Iowa and difficult riversedge Feb 2016 #5

Bernie got over 36,000 more votes than any candidate in NH Primary ever. Bernblu Feb 2016 #6

The reality is that it is not going to happen pandr32 Feb 2016 #7

.@holden is correct. @BernieSanders didn't bring "Political Revolution" to NH. riversedge Feb 2016 #8

We do! pandr32 Feb 2016 #9

azmom

(5,208 posts)

1. You left out the part about Nevada.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:38 PM

Feb 2016

Huge increase in registration. Huge.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)

2. If there was going to be a revolution it would have happened when Bush was president.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:40 PM

Feb 2016

The problem is that you can't text or tweet your anger and expect the country to change for you.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)

4. You must not know anything about the young people of this country.

Reply to upaloopa (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:43 PM

Feb 2016

If you think all they do is text and tweet, you're going to be very, very surprised.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)

3. Bernie had more votes in NH than any other Dem candidate since John Kennedy.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:42 PM

Feb 2016

That is impressive. Hillary OTOH - she had low numbers. Hillary is the one with the enthusiasm problem, she wasn't able to GOTV on her own behalf.

The fact that registration is up in Nevada is great news for Bernie, no matter what Rachel "Hillary may I kiss your ring" Maddow says.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)

5. Jon Rolston saying the NV caucus is relatively new compared to Iowa and difficult

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:47 PM

Feb 2016

to poll or predict outcomes. Has has very low turnout in the past.

Bernblu

(441 posts)

6. Bernie got over 36,000 more votes than any candidate in NH Primary ever.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:48 PM

Feb 2016

Most Individual Votes in New Hampshire Primary History

1. 2016 Bernie Sanders 151,584 + 2,000+ Republican Write ins
2. 2000 John McCain 115,490
3. 2008 Hillary Clinton 112,404
4. 2008 Barack Obama 104,815
5. 2016 Donald Trump 100,406
6. 2012 Mitt Romney 97,591
7. 2016 Hillary Clinton 95,252 + 500+ Republican write ins
8. 1992 George Bush I 92,271
9. 2004 John Kerry 84,390
10. 1968 Richard Nixon 80,666
11. 1972 Richard Nixon 79,239
12. 2000 Al Gore 76,897
13. 1996 Bill Clinton 76,797
14. 1980 Ronald Reagan 72,886
15. 2000 George W Bush 72,262
16. 2000 Bill Bradley 70,502
17. 1992 Pat Buchanan 65,106
18. 1984 Ronald Reagan 65,033
19. 1988 George Bush I 59,290
20. 2004 Howard Dean 57,761
21. 1996 Pat Buchanan 56,874
22. 2012 Ron Paul 56,872
23. 1992 Paul Tsongas 55,663
24. 1976 Gerald Ford 55,156
25. 1996 Bob Dole 54,738
26. 2004 George W Bush 53,962
27. 1976 Ronald Reagan 53,569
28. 1980 Jimmy Carter 52,648
29. 2012 Barack Obama 49,080

pandr32

(11,588 posts)

7. The reality is that it is not going to happen

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:38 AM

Feb 2016

There is no way. It has been a pie-in-the-sky. But real, positive change is possible in increments.
When President Obama went into his first term after winning on a promise of "change" he had enormous political capital. People thought real change was going to happen. It didn't, at least not for a while and when it did it was only after long, bitter fights in Congress. We got gridlock.
A President Sanders would find the same thing. Half of this country watches and believes Fox News for Pete's sake. There is no way any of his promises will happen and the "capital" people are hoping to give Sanders, even if he were to win would not equal that of the newly elected President Obama.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)

8. .@holden is correct. @BernieSanders didn't bring "Political Revolution" to NH.

Reply to pandr32 (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:31 AM

Feb 2016

Dems need to get more Registered.

Dean Barker
?@deanbarker

.@holden is correct. @BernieSanders didn't bring "Political Revolution" to NH. #fitn
http://rainystreets.wikity.cc/a-revolution-statistically-not-yet/ #p2

pandr32

(11,588 posts)

9. We do!

Reply to riversedge (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:42 PM

Feb 2016

And voter suppression laws are a huge problem in way too many areas. We have to somehow overcome these hurdles.

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