2016 Postmortem

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts) Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:45 PM Feb 2016

Henry Kissinger on the Internet.

Henry Kissinger once told me he was very concerned about the Internet's impact on people's ability to absorb information in a concentrated way, because we've become accustomed to looking up something, getting a snippet and being satisfied with that - as opposed to reading through and considering a weighty tome that goes into great depth.

Vint Cerf

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/vintcerf645449.html#Wbo4jV1CgpMjZSwB.99

I have no doubt Henry was truly most afraid of the Internet's ability to get the truth out to the people regarding his war crimes in a "concentrated way."

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Henry Kissinger on the Internet. (Original Post) Uncle Joe Feb 2016 OP

Bernie on TV and internet search engines probably delivered a one-two punch last night. Wilms Feb 2016 #1

Henry on the net nationalize the fed Feb 2016 #2

Global corporate supremacy; super-ceding the authority of national governments, that's in essence Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #3

Joe, do you remember Kissinger's rant about "useless eaters"? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #5

From the book "The Final Days" "The elderly are useless eaters" - Henry Kissinger. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #6

Here is a little more about Kissinger. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #4

Remember when Bush tried to make him the head of the original 911 commission? nationalize the fed Feb 2016 #8

It does beg the question, what was Kissinger's "conflict of interest?" Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #10

He is a cretin. libdem4life Feb 2016 #7

I don't believe Kissinger is stupid, just amoral and evil. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #9

Thanks. :) libdem4life Feb 2016 #11

He and Richard Nixon should have been jailed for treason in 1972 catnhatnh Feb 2016 #12

Wilms

(26,795 posts)

1. Bernie on TV and internet search engines probably delivered a one-two punch last night.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:52 PM

Feb 2016

Glad Henry lived long enough to be around for this.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)

2. Henry on the net

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:12 PM

Feb 2016

What's he talking about there? Does anyone care even now?

The dirty secret about Henry K is that he never went away. He's been "advising" everyone since Nixon. Virtually no one paid attention to foreign affairs until 9/11.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)

3. Global corporate supremacy; super-ceding the authority of national governments, that's in essence

Reply to nationalize the fed (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:28 PM

Feb 2016

what he's speaking of and I have no doubt his solution to a shrinking world.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)

5. Joe, do you remember Kissinger's rant about "useless eaters"?

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:57 PM

Feb 2016

The man decided he would be in charge of who lives and who dies on the globe, and damned if some people did not give him the power to do that.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)

6. From the book "The Final Days" "The elderly are useless eaters" - Henry Kissinger.

Reply to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:04 AM

Feb 2016

Peace to you, dixiegrrrrl.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)

4. Here is a little more about Kissinger.

Reply to nationalize the fed (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:53 PM

Feb 2016

In September 1989, the Wall Street Journal's John Fialka disclosed that Kissinger took a direct economic interest in US-China relations in March 1989 with the establishment of China Ventures, Inc., a Delaware limited partnership, of which he was Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer. A US$75 million investment in a joint venture with the Communist Party government's primary commercial vehicle at the time, China International Trust & Investment Corporation (CITIC), was its purpose. Board members were major clients of Kissinger Associates. Kissinger was criticised for not disclosing his role in the venture when called upon by ABC's Peter Jennings to comment the morning after the June 4, 1989, Tiananmen crackdown. Kissinger's position was generally supportive of Deng Xiaoping's clearance of the square and he opposed economic sanctions.[24]

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Kissinger sneered at people who “bleed” for “the dying Bengalis” and ignored the first telegram from the United States consul general in East Pakistan, Archer K. Blood, and 20 members of his staff, which informed the US that their allies West Pakistan were undertaking, in Blood's words, "a selective genocide".[40] In the second, more famous, Blood Telegram the word genocide was again used to describe the events, and further that with its continuing support for West Pakistan the US government had "evidenced [...] moral bankruptcy".[41] As a direct response to the dissent against US policy Kissinger and Nixon ended Archer Blood's tenure as United States consul general in East Pakistan and put him to work in the State Department's Personnel Office.[42][43]

Henry Kissinger had also come under fire for private comments he made to Nixon during the Bangladesh–Pakistan War in which he described Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi as a "bitch" and a "witch". He also said "The Indians are bastards", shortly before the war.[44] Kissinger has since expressed his regret over the comments.[45]

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In 1973, Kissinger did not feel that pressing the Soviet Union concerning the plight of Jews being persecuted there was in the interest of U.S. foreign policy. In conversation with Nixon shortly after a meeting with Golda Meir on March 1, 1973, Kissinger stated, "The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy, and if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. Maybe a humanitarian concern."[47] Kissinger argued, however:

That emigration existed at all was due to the actions of "realists" in the White House. Jewish emigration rose from 700 a year in 1969 to near 40,000 in 1972. The total in Nixon's first term was more than 100,000. To maintain this flow by quiet diplomacy, we never used these figures for political purposes. ... The issue became public because of the success of our Middle East policy when Egypt evicted Soviet advisers. To restore its relations with Cairo, the Soviet Union put a tax on Jewish emigration. There was no Jackson–Vanik Amendment until there was a successful emigration effort. Sen. Henry Jackson, for whom I had, and continue to have, high regard, sought to remove the tax with his amendment. We thought the continuation of our previous approach of quiet diplomacy was the wiser course. ... Events proved our judgment correct. Jewish emigration fell to about a third of its previous high.[48]

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In November 2002, he was appointed by President George W. Bush to chair the newly established National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States to investigate the September 11 attacks.[89] Kissinger stepped down as chairman on December 13, 2002 rather than reveal his business client list, when queried about potential conflicts of interest.[90]

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The Portuguese decolonization process brought U.S. attention to the former Portuguese colony of East Timor, which lies within the Indonesian archipelago and declared its independence in 1975. Indonesian president Suharto was a strong U.S. ally in Southeast Asia and began to mobilize the Indonesian army, preparing to annex the nascent state, which had become increasingly dominated by the popular leftist FRETILIN party. In December 1975, Suharto discussed the invasion plans during a meeting with Kissinger and President Ford in the Indonesian capital of Jakarta. Both Ford and Kissinger made clear that U.S. relations with Indonesia would remain strong and that it would not object to the proposed annexation.[76] They only wanted it done "fast" and proposed that it be delayed until after they had returned to Washington.[77] Accordingly, Suharto delayed the operation for one day. Finally on December 7 Indonesian forces invaded the former Portuguese colony. U.S. arms sales to Indonesia continued, and Suharto went ahead with the annexation plan. The invasion and occupation resulted in the deaths of nearly a quarter of the Timorese population from 1975 to 1981.[78]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)

8. Remember when Bush tried to make him the head of the original 911 commission?

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:14 AM

Feb 2016

That was after Bush was shamed into having an investigation at all.

That's right- the Bush admin didn't want an investigation into the biggest crime against the US in history.

And when 911 family members finally pestered them into one, Bush named Henry Kissinger to lead it.
Then, Henry withdrew his name from consideration when he would have to make his client list public. But "truthers" are mocked, ridiculed and scorned. It's really quite something to behold.

The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States was established on November 27, 2002, by President George W. Bush and the United States Congress, with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger initially appointed to head the commission.[2] However, Kissinger resigned only weeks after being appointed, because he would have been obliged to disclose the clients of his private consulting business https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission

Pulling on the Kissinger thread will begin to unravel a big giant sweater. Not everyone will be happy about this. At all.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)

10. It does beg the question, what was Kissinger's "conflict of interest?"

Reply to nationalize the fed (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:21 AM

Feb 2016

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)

7. He is a cretin.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:06 AM

Feb 2016

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)

9. I don't believe Kissinger is stupid, just amoral and evil.

Reply to libdem4life (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:19 AM

Feb 2016

Peace to you, libdem4life.

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)

11. Thanks. :)

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:23 AM

Feb 2016

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)

12. He and Richard Nixon should have been jailed for treason in 1972

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:58 PM

Feb 2016

for violations of the Logan Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

For those who believe brown people's lives don't count, Kissinger's violation of that act cost over 25,000 US troops their lives.

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