2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUntil we can do away with racism, sexism, and gender discrimination let them eat cake.
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So we'll continue to let the crooks feed at the public trough and rip off Americans, redistributing wealth upward until we can resolve all these other issues....
Do you realize how seriously screwed up this is?
If the economy was rigged in favor of the 99%, I'd bet they'd fix the situation pretty darn quick.
Note: This is the game they have been playing for years. Ignore the fact that we have a corrupt system where the rich get richer, the middle class disappears and the poor get poorer and just focus on the issues we want you to focus on.
that definitely seems to be the view of some supporters of a certain presidential candidate.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)how Hillary's opposition to marriage equality, extended as it was, served the LGBT community or helped to end the discrimination against us that you cite so frequently in that OP.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)and so has Hillary Clinton. I don't hold that against them. Can you answer my question now?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Ending oppression is your standard for candidates, she's your candidate. How was that a function of her goal to end oppression? How could a person who opposes oppression favor discriminatory laws against minorities?
You waving your hand and saying you don't hold it against them does not address my questions to you in the least.
And by the way, which are you? LGB or T?
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)I think I am just confused, but I still have a life time to find out about myself. Btw, I don't think it was polite to ask if you are LGBT. Maybe next time just ask if you're family.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)about but you refused to explain why Hillary's years of opposing marriage equality served that goal. Or why that is so insignificant to you when it is Hillary when you are making it tantamount for Bernie. Bernie Sanders never spoke or acted against the rights of anyone. Hillary has. It strikes me as two sets of rules, one for Hillary who can advocate oppression and discrimination without criticism, and for Bernie who must solve all of it or speak of nothing else.
I offer that you are the person who brought the LGBT thing to the table. If you don't want to talk about it, don't act like you already own it, maybe? If you can mention it, so can I.
And to be family, you have to respond respectfully to questions instead of slapping backs with others about how heartfelt your post is. You made assertions, got challenged and did not respond. So polite? Look up the meaning of the word.
To recap, of the two candidates only one has spent 20 years objecting to marriage equality and that's the candidate for you because what is important to you is ending discrimination and oppression and that makes sense to you, but not to me.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)You're voting for Sanders!
I knew you'd eventually decide it best.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)think they we can work on more than one issue at a time. Pick just one! The others are going to have to wait.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... who are marginalized have to fight.
Its more than just thoughts or "isms" it's structure and whole freakin industries who are part of the oppression with the backing of whole or part of the US government on state or federal levels.
Keep thinking what you want to think hear?
Blacks, women, Hispanics and gays... the "others" aren't for Hillary cause we dislike "revolution".
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... think about other people.
Hopefully you don't either cause that's not achievable or even practical, people gonna think what they want to think... humans are gong to have their "isms"
People who are marginalized HISTORICALLY (so now we're talking about facts) want the state to make sure the people who marginalize (or in most cases usually the majority population of humans) aren't using said thoughts or "isms" as a justification to keep up with their crappy ACTIONS... not just thoughts or racism, sexism, ... ism isms
You being a part of the marginalized doesn't change that...
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)people, including marginalized groups is extremely screwed up.
People who come up with this type of shit are devoid of conscience.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Bernie Sanders for President- the candidate who has never opposed the rights of anyone, ever.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)Based on a feeling that it was just to divisive.
So... take whatever is being heaped upon you with a grain of salt.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... for being president.
Now "too divisive" is a reason not to do something for him...
Too Divisive sounds like a phrase not white male enough...
hmmm
Protalker
(418 posts)I marched in San Francisco with Harvey Milk. I was gay bashed with a baseball bat in th 1980s. I was an AIDS activist and counselor in the 1980s and 1990s. I managed a gay Mental Health program in the 90s into the 2000s. Presently I counsel heroin addicts. All of these efforts for indigent people. My grandchildren are mixed. It takes money to run programs and a fighter to get the money. I was and am for Hillary
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)Thanks for the thread, Skwmom.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)mountain?