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Don Draper

(187 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:40 PM Feb 2016

I witnessed a miracle Thursday night; conservative republican Bernie Sanders supporters

I want to preface this post by saying that I live in SW Missouri. This area is about as right wing as it gets.

My family attended a Bernie Sanders debate watching party on Thursday night. Much to my surprise, there were a group of conservative republicans for Bernie at the party. I have read online that they existed, but I never thought I'd actually meet one (especially here in SW MO). I talked to them for a while and they said that the main reason they are supporting Bernie is because campaign finance reform is the most important issue for them. They said they feel the current campaign finance laws and the power Wall Street has over our political system perverts true capitalism & creates crony capitalism. They feel Bernie is the only candidate on either side that understands how important this issue is.

Although my story is antecdotal, I think this shows the kind of broad appeal Bernie has to independent minded people which would be helpful to our cause in the general election.

Feel the Bern!!

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I witnessed a miracle Thursday night; conservative republican Bernie Sanders supporters (Original Post) Don Draper Feb 2016 OP
I'm a liberal atheist born in the NYC area Trajan Feb 2016 #1
Lots of narrow minded people in this area Don Draper Feb 2016 #6
Some day the little people will see the light Trajan Feb 2016 #12
Warp speed? Sanders is the only way to a Star Trek future. earthshine Feb 2016 #40
Agreed! Don Draper Feb 2016 #43
And to Bernie, K'pla! earthshine Feb 2016 #44
Several repugs I know say they will vote for Bernie over anyone on their side... PonyUp Feb 2016 #2
This is good. They might actually undergo a political conversion in the process. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #46
As long as we have a pay to play system... mak3cats Feb 2016 #3
Bernie is bringing blue collar Whites back to the Democratic Party. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #4
Great point! Don Draper Feb 2016 #7
The Reagan Democrats are turning into The Bernie Republicans? Fawke Em Feb 2016 #26
OT, but that Berniefied Reddit alien is so cute! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #28
To know him ( and his policies) is to love him... AzDar Feb 2016 #5
True dat!! Don Draper Feb 2016 #9
I live on the Gulf Coast in MS Aerows Feb 2016 #8
That's great to hear Don Draper Feb 2016 #11
I'm directing a canvass for him in VA tomorrow and the local HQ director mentioned that JudyM Feb 2016 #18
VA is a heck of a lot more purple than MS Aerows Feb 2016 #19
You go, Aerows! Get them downticket races! bettyellen Feb 2016 #22
Absolutely! Aerows Feb 2016 #24
Absolutely right. JudyM Feb 2016 #42
Hey Dan wilsonbooks Feb 2016 #10
It was in Springfield Don Draper Feb 2016 #13
keep up the good work. wilsonbooks Feb 2016 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #15
my right wing boww says he will vote sanders if he can get past hillary SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #16
Please tell me what bows means/stands for. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #17
Typo of "boss"? Wig Master Feb 2016 #23
Thanks. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #25
Maybe she meant "beau" (eom) Samantha Feb 2016 #39
I'm hearing the same in SW Virginia Oilwellian Feb 2016 #20
Are they going to help us take over congress with honest progressive leaders? bettyellen Feb 2016 #21
They'd be more apt to than Clinton's supporters. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #27
I moved out of Joplin after the tornado. pugetres Feb 2016 #29
Great news to hear even a few repubs truegrit44 Feb 2016 #34
My guess is they want to run against Sanders in the primary. They are on this board for the same upaloopa Feb 2016 #30
I disagree Don Draper Feb 2016 #47
WOW! ejbr Feb 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author ejbr Feb 2016 #32
Amen Brother Don Draper! Duckfan Feb 2016 #33
I'll give you an amen Don Draper Feb 2016 #45
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #35
(face-palm) McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #36
This is now my "official DU thread of the day." McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #37
Feel the bern!! Don Draper Feb 2016 #48
I work for a friend I used to work with. Glamrock Feb 2016 #38
Excellent post, Don earthshine Feb 2016 #41
Further proof: no difference between the far right and left noiretextatique Feb 2016 #49
I saw two Bernie bumper stickers in the most republican county in Iowa. progressoid Feb 2016 #50
 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
1. I'm a liberal atheist born in the NYC area
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:43 PM
Feb 2016

I lived in Springfield for 15 months ...

15 of the most disastrous months I have ever faced ...

Now in Portland ... Right where I oughta be ...

Great news though ... Let's have more of them ...

Don Draper

(187 posts)
6. Lots of narrow minded people in this area
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:16 AM
Feb 2016

It kills me to see so many poor people in my area continuously vote against their self interests. We now have a supermajority of teabaggers controlling the state legislature. They are hell bent on driving Missouri into poverty at warp speed

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
12. Some day the little people will see the light
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:22 AM
Feb 2016

They need some more of that 'show me' when it comes to the results of conservative governance...

I always ask my friends to tell me of a time and place where regular people did REALLY REALLY good under a conservative government ...

Almost every example in the US is negative ... In the modern era, there are no positive examples ...

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
40. Warp speed? Sanders is the only way to a Star Trek future.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:31 AM
Feb 2016

As a lifelong Trekker, I have the authority to say Sanders would make a far better Starship commander than Hillary.

She is too bellicose -- a word I learned from a Star Trek cartoon episode.

The Articles of the Federation are egalitarian and liberal like Sanders.

 

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)
2. Several repugs I know say they will vote for Bernie over anyone on their side...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

...unless Hillary is the nominee.

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)
46. This is good. They might actually undergo a political conversion in the process.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016

.


Once they make their first Democratic Party vote, it will open the door for them to make others.


There needs to be an icebreaker. Then, they will become accepting of liberal policies and a social conscious.



Politics and religion work on the same centers of the brain. A religious conversion takes a lot of factors to occur, often including a triggering event. The same is with politics, once that change occurs, or the person is receptive, then all bets are off!

Instead of chasing these people away, or making fun of them for being a Republican, they should be embraced, just like how churches embrace people into their fold. Love-bombing and a sense of community are extremely powerful forces.


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mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
3. As long as we have a pay to play system...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

...nothing will ever change. For either side. For anyone. And the only ones who DON'T want things to change are the ones who are benefiting now.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. I live on the Gulf Coast in MS
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:17 AM
Feb 2016

I talk about Bernie Sanders everywhere I go. This is a highly conservative area in a highly conservative state. You would think I would get shut down or laughed at.

The response is the opposite - people here in the Deep South have had it with the professional politico class. We want someone that is real. We are glad that somebody is finally talking about the issues that matter to them no matter how "liberal" (i.e. Dirty Hippy) the message might seem at first blush.

Bernie Sanders is the genuine article. He doesn't just stand up at a podium; he's far more likely to be rolling up his sleeves, and listening to people while he is busy doing all that he can for his electorate.

He has to be an opposition candidate's worst nightmare - he has a strong message, isn't overflowing with skeletons in his closet, and he throws conventional "wisdom" about how to win an election out of the window.

He tells the damn truth. Republicans know it, Independents know it, and Democrats know it.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
18. I'm directing a canvass for him in VA tomorrow and the local HQ director mentioned that
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:54 AM
Feb 2016

the list of houses we're hitting isn't just Dems, it's folks who may otherwise fit his broader demographic. In every other election I've volunteered we've only gone for the Dems.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. VA is a heck of a lot more purple than MS
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:59 AM
Feb 2016

But the answer is universal to any state: Canvass, phone bank, speak in positive terms, and offer your neighbors that can't drive a ride to the polls.

Keep up the good work, JudyM, and I'm doing my best here, as well. We need to emphasize that down ticket elections - Senate, state senate, Representative, local votes - they all matter a heck of a lot, too.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. Absolutely!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:19 AM
Feb 2016

A huge percentage of National candidates come from local and state positions they were elected to. It never hurts to start early, even though the election is several months from now. Name recognition of Democratic candidates can make a large difference.

Cede NOTHING to Republicans, I don't care if the office is head of the committee to decorate the town on holidays. Vote Dem!

(Oh hey, forgot to ask - how did your party go with the ecig "condoms" so that people could test different juices? I'll bet that was a blast!)

Response to Don Draper (Original post)

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
20. I'm hearing the same in SW Virginia
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:10 AM
Feb 2016

I've heard several republicans say they're voting for Bernie in our open primary coming up in two weeks. They will not vote for Hillary if she goes to the GE.

I live in a county that votes 63% Repub and it's mostly rural. It seems the folks in the country are hurting pretty badly.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
27. They'd be more apt to than Clinton's supporters.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016

She and her fans tend to like Third Wayers who are the problem.

 

pugetres

(507 posts)
29. I moved out of Joplin after the tornado.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:30 AM
Feb 2016

I remember being the only democratic leaning person in any group, *ever*. My sons are still there and they are leaning in the same direction as their mom My oldest son mentioned last night that most of his co-workers are for Bernie. That just struck me as odd considering my experiences of living in SW MO from the ages of 9 to 43. That is NOT the SW MO that I knew.

truegrit44

(332 posts)
34. Great news to hear even a few repubs
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:03 AM
Feb 2016

are feelin the bern. I live north of the joplin/springfield area in of all places "Clinton" and lived in the ozark region for 10 yrs prior and was a lone wolf when Obama ran and it does seem it has gotten even more tea bagger/rep since then. We can only hope they see the light one of these days.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
30. My guess is they want to run against Sanders in the primary. They are on this board for the same
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:45 AM
Feb 2016

reason. It is also the reason repub super pacs are running ads supporting Sanders.

He says he doesn't have super pacs but there is the one from nurses and another one that I can't call to mind right now. Plus he has the right wing super pacs now supporting him because they think he is the easiest to beat in the general.think

Don Draper

(187 posts)
47. I disagree
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016

The folks I talked to were sincere in their support for sanders. While they disagreed with him on expanding social programs, they felt that the crony capitalism and Wall Street's control of our political system was a threat to a true free market (their words, not mine). They think that Bernie is the only candidate in either party that will take action on this most important issue.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
31. WOW!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:51 AM
Feb 2016

I would have thought one would see a unicorn jump over a rainbow before a conservative supporting Bernie!

Response to Don Draper (Original post)

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
33. Amen Brother Don Draper!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:02 AM
Feb 2016

Raise Your Hands in the Air and say "hallelujah" Brother Don!!

A miracle of a heavenly nature has occurred!

Can I get an amen?

AMEN!

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
38. I work for a friend I used to work with.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:23 AM
Feb 2016

Small business owner. Was able to attend a well known military academy in town because his mom worked there. Ran as a Republican for mayor in his twenties. Bumper sticker on his truck: "Extreme Conservative". Despises Obamacare. Supporting Bernie. Much for the same reason. $ in politics. He's also in agreement with Medicare for all, which would help him grow his business. Plus, he's down with the minimum wage hike and infrastructure spending because of the kick in the ass the economy would get. He's even hip to the education spending because he thinks we need to catch up with the rest of the civilized world just to be economically competitive and viable. I don't think that many people realize they're democratic socialists. Conservative has become a racket and an empty name tag. A completely meaningless descriptor. This election has the potential to open a lot of eyes.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
41. Excellent post, Don
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:46 AM
Feb 2016

>> I have read online that they existed, but I never thought I'd actually meet one

LOL! Like a rare and exotic beast.

Sanders indeed has cross-party appeal. It will be useful when he president to get things done.

The repubs would never cooperate with Hillary. They hate her in ways that are rabid and irrational, yet absolutely real and palpable.

Have a heart for your excellent post.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
50. I saw two Bernie bumper stickers in the most republican county in Iowa.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

They are something like 87% registered Republican. I was shocked to say the least.

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