Hannibal Lecter.

Why are you DOING this, USA? Why?
For the love of god, why?

Thanks for the thread, Cheese Sandwich.

The exact same language Hillary Clinton used for sending refugee children back to face violence in Central America.

"To send a message."

By Sec. Clinton.

The jingoism, and sense of superiority is disturbing to me.

Drenched in blood?

Fuggadabouddit. Its nuthin'

It is bad enough if the Iraq war was fought for oil (as I thought) but if it was done just to punish some other Muslim country that hadn't attacked us on 9/11 to make some point about what bullies we are, than the lives of millions of Iraqis,–by death or displacement–were victims of our adolescent machismo and legitimate, if falsely directed, rage.

I could post the results but I hate war porn.

War porn is right.
I got a FOX feed I think, which overlaid a rippling US flag transparency over a hacked Al Jazeera (I think) original feed. They cut out the original sound, of course, and overlaid voices of US cheerleaders, exclaiming over the show. It looks just like the 4th of July, was one cry.

I took a stillshot from the feed and printed it out, and put it on my wall, and was told that I ought not do that. Someone might see it and think I somehow agreed...
It all went downhill from there.
The firebombing of Falluja, the incinerated city.
The torture.
The black sites.
The NSA.
The final acquiescence, that this is who we are, the best we can be.

then mission accomplished.

then yes that's certainly what we gave them.

Thanks to the US invasion, Iraq is now controlled by ISIS, who are a thousand times worse than Saddam Hussein. That's what Hillary calls freedom!

That's what it is.

Hillary Clinton has deep respect for this decrepit monster, and considers him both a friend and a mentor.
The Presidency is her life-long goal, and being Commander in Chief would be the Crown Jewel in her resume.

Yes, she's Tough, Tested, and Ready on Day 1... for war, War, WAR.
And if she succeeds she will at last have her very own wars, to continue bestowing the gift of freedom upon an ungrateful world.

Our choice is so clear.

She's got plenty of record. We need to move away from that kind of policy.

yeah it happened.

a lot of Henry group hugfests and a lot of spinning about HRC's "friendship" and what not.

War criminals are not "elder statesmen" to vacation with or receive foreign policy advice from.

...just after he helped instigate a coup in Chile that brought the murderous dictator Augusto Pinochet to power.

"Good to see ya, Augusto ol' buddy!"

history and find a cozy home in Hillary Clinton's Democratic Party. When is Dick Cheney welcome as a Democratic advisor?

For war crimes long ago. His actions with Pinochet alone would be enough for a life sentence. It is disconcerting to hear HRC speak so fondly of him.

Allowing people their dignity -- even those you think are nutjobs or terrorists -- will get you a lot further than trying to break them down and leave them nothing.

A concept so embraced by Saddam.

Apparently there is no defense for it. They must be counting on most voters not particularly caring about this.

Power mad murderers of innocents.

Nixon's secret plan to end the Vietnam was a continuation of Johnson's failed plan except Kissinger doubled down and took the bombing campaign into Laos and invaded Cambodia causing a greater destabilization in the region and the rise of the brutal Pol Pot regime.

Fast forward to Iraq and it was a replay of Vietnamization with a nearly identical result with the Arab spring and the rise of ISIS.

How many times must this country employ Kissinger's brainchild before they realize that the policy is a dead end. So much for the refrain that we should never again fall into the quagmire of Vietnam, except we repeated it in Iraq so no lessons were learned -- and Kissinger is still around spreading the same vile, failed song and dance. How can someone so book smart be so brain dead?

Do you want this on your conscience?
Because that's the choice offered.

still trying to cover up the oil motive, i see.....

what we really gave them was catastrophic ruination of their country, the killing and maiming of their citizens and a lifetime of heart-wrenching, brutalizing trauma.

What a condescending statement from Hillary, telling Iraqis what a "gift" the war was. Right. The whole country and tens of thousands of its people have been blown to bits.

Many people here make excuses for Hillary`s vote and her hawkish way of thinking and planning. No big deal to them, apparently.

Well, it`s a very big deal to me.

An old Dixie Mafia acquaintance from back in the early 70's used to use that term. It had racist overtones, since id referred to killing people of color to 'set them free.'

Who are these people?

"War is a racket." - Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler.

The road forks.

if you like war criminals.

to choke that miserable toad to his last gasp, I'll never forgive her.