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Related: About this forumWhy Hillary Clinton Spells Democratic Party Defeat:
February 12, 2016
Why Hillary Clinton Spells Democratic Party Defeat
by Gerald Sussman
....Wall Streets and the Democratic Partys old guard preference, Hillary Clinton has high negative ratings both nationally as well as within the party itself. She rates 51% unfavorable nationally as of February 7, 2016, worse than the 32% negative opinion registered in September 2011 and the 45% registered a year ago. CBS News found last October that 14% of Democratic voters declared they wouldnt vote for her, with another 27% expressing strong reservations about her, and those numbers are likely to increase with her nasty attacks on Sanders. In other words, her bid to seek the highest office in the land has only increased the publics dislike for her over time. She registers particularly strong distaste among voters in key swing states, such as Pennsylvania, Ohio, Colorado, Florida, Virginia, and Iowa, that the Democratic Party has to win secure a presidential victory. The key attribute attached to her that attracts so much negative attention is her lack of honesty and trustworthiness.
If she were to be the Democratic nominee, through the stealing of the nomination by loyalist super-delegates or by other means, the Republicans would launch a fury of attack ads reminding the public of her past lies and questionable official behavior. They will retell her fabrication about having to flee sniper fire at a Bosnian airport in 1996 as first lady, her shady Whitewater business deals while first lady in the Arkansas governors mansion, the remarkable claim that she and Bill were dead broke when they left the White House (their now net worth is $111 million), her use of a private email account for highly classified documents while secretary of state, presumably to discard those deemed embarrassing, her mishandling of the Benghazi assault on the US embassy, killing the ambassador, her Wall St. connections and huge speaker fees from financial houses, lies she told about her family tree and her own first name honoring the first man, together with his Sherpa guide, to scale Mt. Everest, unfortunately having been born 6 years before the feat, and other fibs, misdeeds, and issue flip-flops while in public office enough to boost the Republican nominee and discourage Democrats from voting.
It is obvious that Bernies powerful popular showing in Iowa and New Hampshire, with record turnouts, is the result of a groundswell of new voters that he has brought into the party.... The more that the Hillary campaign, with Bill and Chelsea in tow, attacks Bernie, the more she alienates his supporters, especially the younger new voters, the slimmer the chances of a Democratic presidential win. This in turn will likely result in a stronger grip over the congressional seats by the Republicans, as weak turnout for the Democrats will spell Republican victories in the House and Senate.
Bernies win, on the other hand, is dependent on very strong turnouts by Democratic voters. Theres good reason to think his strong showing so far will continue into the upcoming primaries and caucuses and into the November election. A big turnout will likely sweep many Democrats into office, including the swing states noted above, and rebalance both houses in the Democrats favor.....
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If she were to be the Democratic nominee, through the stealing of the nomination by loyalist super-delegates or by other means, the Republicans would launch a fury of attack ads reminding the public of her past lies and questionable official behavior. They will retell her fabrication about having to flee sniper fire at a Bosnian airport in 1996 as first lady, her shady Whitewater business deals while first lady in the Arkansas governors mansion, the remarkable claim that she and Bill were dead broke when they left the White House (their now net worth is $111 million), her use of a private email account for highly classified documents while secretary of state, presumably to discard those deemed embarrassing, her mishandling of the Benghazi assault on the US embassy, killing the ambassador, her Wall St. connections and huge speaker fees from financial houses, lies she told about her family tree and her own first name honoring the first man, together with his Sherpa guide, to scale Mt. Everest, unfortunately having been born 6 years before the feat, and other fibs, misdeeds, and issue flip-flops while in public office enough to boost the Republican nominee and discourage Democrats from voting.
It is obvious that Bernies powerful popular showing in Iowa and New Hampshire, with record turnouts, is the result of a groundswell of new voters that he has brought into the party.... The more that the Hillary campaign, with Bill and Chelsea in tow, attacks Bernie, the more she alienates his supporters, especially the younger new voters, the slimmer the chances of a Democratic presidential win. This in turn will likely result in a stronger grip over the congressional seats by the Republicans, as weak turnout for the Democrats will spell Republican victories in the House and Senate.
Bernies win, on the other hand, is dependent on very strong turnouts by Democratic voters. Theres good reason to think his strong showing so far will continue into the upcoming primaries and caucuses and into the November election. A big turnout will likely sweep many Democrats into office, including the swing states noted above, and rebalance both houses in the Democrats favor.....
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/12/why-hillary-clinton-spells-democratic-party-defeat/
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Why Hillary Clinton Spells Democratic Party Defeat: (Original Post)
amborin
Feb 2016
OP
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)1. That's going to sting.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)2. gallup gave up horseraces" but still polls. interesting they find today
obama (riding hillary clinton coat tails) is up 1% http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx : the 24 hour everday poll)
obama at 49%
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)3. One Chart to explain it all
earthshine
(1,642 posts)5. We absolutely must pull in the independents.
Sanders is the only hope.
For the most part, the indies are not going to tack toward Hillary.
amborin
(16,631 posts)6. yes, they prefer Sanders
earthshine
(1,642 posts)4. An excellent and powerful article.
Thanks for posting. Have a heart on me.
amborin
(16,631 posts)7. Voters know Hillary will NOT advocate for their interests:
Hillary Is A High-Ranking Member of the DC Elite
Hillary Clinton thinks, in her gut, that America is a prosperous country, and that the policies that led to our prosperity should simply be continued, that they work. But this hasnt been true since the 1970s, back when America was the worlds economic powerhouse, with a manufacturing base that was the envy of the world, highly paid unionized workers and a booming housing market.
The American dream started coming off the rails with the election of Ronald Reagan who, as David Stockman noted in his book, The Triumph of Politics, was duped into giving away the store to the military industrial complex. Defense spending soared into the stratosphere, and the deep state which is what writer Mike Lofgren calls the alliance between the defense industry, politicians and Wall Street began playing a larger and larger role in government. 9/11 sealed the deal, as the national security establishment what Stockman calls the war party consolidated its power and influence, setting the stage for the global surveillance state.
The deep state has another aspect: It bleeds the American taxpayer, taking money to be the worlds policeman and enriching contractors, politicians, Wall Street and the arms industry, while the people get little in return (unless they happen to be working for those same companies.) All of the candidates for president are clients of the deep state and deeply beholden to it except for Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.
Bernie has been an unsparing critic of the deep state. His angry exchange with Alan Greenspan on the floor of Congress left the former Fed Chairman with a bemused expression, as if he were considering an unsuitable visitor to a gated community.
Going hand in hand with the deep state, what Bill Clinton and George Bush enabled was the financialization of everything. Regulations on banks came off, credit card interest rates were free to soar, and the American public was sold on investing in an ever-expanding housing market. Private prisons multiplied, payday loan companies and fraudulent colleges like the University of Phoenix sprang up. Vulture capitalism spread its wings. This whole infrastructure of greed is deeply tied into the political establishment, which is why even today, Hillary wont attack the pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, the prison industry, big oil, the pay day loan industry and the rest, head-on.
The elite Hillary, Bush and the rest have no understanding at all how it really is to be part of a growing American underclass (25 million and counting) that has seen their good jobs disappear with the global trade agreements, the war against unions and governments blind eye to companies stashing their profits overseas to avoid paying taxes.....
The American dream started coming off the rails with the election of Ronald Reagan who, as David Stockman noted in his book, The Triumph of Politics, was duped into giving away the store to the military industrial complex. Defense spending soared into the stratosphere, and the deep state which is what writer Mike Lofgren calls the alliance between the defense industry, politicians and Wall Street began playing a larger and larger role in government. 9/11 sealed the deal, as the national security establishment what Stockman calls the war party consolidated its power and influence, setting the stage for the global surveillance state.
The deep state has another aspect: It bleeds the American taxpayer, taking money to be the worlds policeman and enriching contractors, politicians, Wall Street and the arms industry, while the people get little in return (unless they happen to be working for those same companies.) All of the candidates for president are clients of the deep state and deeply beholden to it except for Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.
Bernie has been an unsparing critic of the deep state. His angry exchange with Alan Greenspan on the floor of Congress left the former Fed Chairman with a bemused expression, as if he were considering an unsuitable visitor to a gated community.
Going hand in hand with the deep state, what Bill Clinton and George Bush enabled was the financialization of everything. Regulations on banks came off, credit card interest rates were free to soar, and the American public was sold on investing in an ever-expanding housing market. Private prisons multiplied, payday loan companies and fraudulent colleges like the University of Phoenix sprang up. Vulture capitalism spread its wings. This whole infrastructure of greed is deeply tied into the political establishment, which is why even today, Hillary wont attack the pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, the prison industry, big oil, the pay day loan industry and the rest, head-on.
The elite Hillary, Bush and the rest have no understanding at all how it really is to be part of a growing American underclass (25 million and counting) that has seen their good jobs disappear with the global trade agreements, the war against unions and governments blind eye to companies stashing their profits overseas to avoid paying taxes.....
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/hillary-high-ranking-member-dc-power-elite-and-thats-why-she-cant-comprehend-bernies