2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat kind of example is that to give to one's daughter if a highly corrupted woman becomes president?
She may be inspired at first, but once she know's the truth, she'll be heartbroken.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)"I need to get elected to do good things, but I need to do some bad things to get elected."
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Too much money involved now.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)wrong as a man?
Tortmaster
(382 posts)A two-fer in this thread!
boston bean
(36,221 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Iggy Knorr
(247 posts)submit it to hillary's campaign smear hotline, i'm sure they'll run with it.
randys1
(16,286 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)the GOP.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Sad
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Oh, wait, he pointed out exactly the opposite. Or tried to anyway.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...shouldn't be hidden.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)After all the shit that has gone down here in the last six months or so and that is what he came in to defend.
Says a lot about priorities.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)He got caught up in stupid DU argumentative styles that he's not remotely experienced with. It's simple. As a Sanders supporter I would have never hidden a mainstream source, even if I disagreed with it. Serving on hundreds of juries, I have never, once, ever, hidden a mainstream news source even if I felt it was biased or disagreed with it.
This might result in Skinner ridding himself of the jury system, but the jury system basically offloads the work he has to deal with, I suspect, in the end, he'll actually implement an appeals system or something like that, so he can maintain his sanity.
The stupid hides over mainstream links, which were admittedly wrong, are enough to show that the jury system has within it biases and nasty dishonest individuals.
And yes, even if you're a Sanders supporter, and yes, eve if you disagreed with their comments, if you voted to hide those posts, you are a dishonest, corrupt, nasty individual. It's mainstream news opinion pieces, there are just as many such pieces bashing Clinton. Get over it. Move on. Have some integrity.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)This was a hit piece five minutes with Google would show you had holes you could navigate supertanker through.
The whole incident is an indictment of the M$M, not Bernie Sanders or his supporters.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)And you expect me to consider that credible?
Even Sanders was tired of those damn emails, which got DAILY coverage leading up to the first debate. Totally fucking delusional. Mainstream sources defended Sanders staffer data theft, I would have never voted to hide that shit. You are simply wrong, defending the indefensible.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I've never voted to hide anything at all on DU, I don't participate in the jury system.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts).... if someone from the republican clown car wins the presidency"
Our daughters will be fine if Clinton or Sanders wins the presidency (actually, they will still be under attack if the legislature remains full of right wing nut jobs).
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)Faint praise, indeed.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)The majority of people don't like her or her politics.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Also because she didn't achieve her success on her husband's coattails.
Not that there's anything wrong with a woman doing that, but it will be that much more impressive when we see a woman make it fully on her own. Not to say that Hillary doesn't have many accomplishments to be proud of, but she would never have become a New York Senator if she hadn't been First Lady. And without that Senate experience, it is unlikely that she runs for President in 2008 or becomes Sec'y of State. So, accomplished as she is, it is well arguable that her position still largely goes back to "marrying well."
blue neen
(12,321 posts)Really?
This is unbelievable. Excuse me while I go swoon on a couch somewhere.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)There are other Dem women I would endorse wholeheartedly. HRC is not one.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)I was a girl in 1979. I saw a hideous right-winger become the first woman Prime Minister of my country!!!
I can assure you that I was extremely horrified, but NOT because Maggie T. was a woman; I felt about her the same way I did about Ronnie Reagan, except that she was HERE, and he wasn't. I was heartbroken at getting 11 years of hard-right government, and 7 more of almost equally hard-right government under other Tories (17 years if you count the Blair government!) but I wasn't more heartbroken because Maggie was female.
In any case: I've been generally staying out of the primary stuff because I'm not American and we have enough infighting in the British Labour Party to last me. If I was voting, it would be for Bernie Sanders. But I would hardly call Hillary Clinton 'highly corrupted', certainly not in comparison with ANY Republican. I should say that girls and women should indeed be heartbroken, if far-righties take over the government and pursue an anti-women (and anti-poor, and anti-minority, etc. etc.) agenda - and it will affect the whole world.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)Clinton is a politician and acts it. It's not always pleasant to watch, but I wouldn't go so far as call her corrupt.
And young girls should learn that there are good things and bad things about ALL people (except Dick Cheney, Ted Cruz, and all child molesters and serial killers), and Hillary is no exception.
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)She's responsible for herself now. I'm a Sanders fan but this thread is rediculous.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)ain't that the truth... and when they learn that the way she became President was by selling out the poor and minorities, for some sweet sweet cash... well, she'll be completely turned off politics for god knows how long...
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)Or do you only play this "gender card" against women?
Metric System
(6,048 posts)happier. I should learn from that and log out.