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What kind of example is that to give to one's daughter if a highly corrupted woman becomes president? (Original Post) AZ Progressive Feb 2016 OP
"You can achieve much if you're willing to make certain compromises?" HassleCat Feb 2016 #1
There is a point to where your compromises turn you in to what you fear... Skwmom Feb 2016 #18
That problem has plagued us forever. HassleCat Feb 2016 #22
The illusion has been pierced. It's not the people they are doing good things for. nt Skwmom Feb 2016 #25
Indeed HassleCat Feb 2016 #29
That a corrupt woman has as much a chance at achievement as a corrupt man. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #2
That a woman can be just as.... daleanime Feb 2016 #3
Right Wing Talking Points and thinly disguised Men's Rights gruel. Tortmaster Feb 2016 #4
Ayup. +100 boston bean Feb 2016 #9
+ another leftofcool Feb 2016 #12
Thats the angle, 'Bernie Bros' are MRA Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #17
Very sad to see here at DU randys1 Feb 2016 #30
Hillary is a right wing registered democrat. If all were right in the world she would be a member of JRLeft Feb 2016 #33
wrong. not even. you are just throwing shit out there and hoping it sticks. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #37
Non stop attacks on dem candidate. Worst that whT DU does to repubs Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 #5
Skinner pointed out today that lying attacks against Democratic candidates need to be hidden Fumesucker Feb 2016 #6
Um, no, he said mainstream news sources... joshcryer Feb 2016 #15
I read the thread, he tried so hard to defend the lies Fumesucker Feb 2016 #19
He tried poorly. joshcryer Feb 2016 #20
The pieces on Clinton are rarely if ever made up from whole cloth like this attack was Fumesucker Feb 2016 #24
You're alleging the MSM is friendly to Clinton? joshcryer Feb 2016 #39
What does this have to do with emails? Fumesucker Feb 2016 #40
Um, this comment chain has to do with the jury. joshcryer Feb 2016 #41
My worry is "what becomes of our daughters ...... etherealtruth Feb 2016 #7
Bernie Sanders is not a woman :-) uponit7771 Feb 2016 #8
Better than a republican with a republican congress cali Feb 2016 #10
That's why she gets my vote. In the general election. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #11
Indeed In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #13
Better to then have Bernie Sanders as our nom. Hillary can't win. RiverLover Feb 2016 #14
Elizabeth Warren would be a much better role model. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #16
"Marrying well"? blue neen Feb 2016 #23
+1000000 farleftlib Feb 2016 #34
I don't think most girls would be that affected by the gender... LeftishBrit Feb 2016 #21
Well stated. Chemisse Feb 2016 #31
Chelsea is an adult. JonathanRackham Feb 2016 #26
That is one of the reasons Clinton is toxic to young women voters in the GE. Skwmom Feb 2016 #27
boom EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #28
That would be terrible if it were true. However, it is right wingnut Rovian claptrap bullshit. Lil Missy Feb 2016 #32
Do you ask this question about the sons of politicians you don't like Empowerer Feb 2016 #35
You know what? I'm done at DU. Enough is enough. I took most of the week off and I was so much Metric System Feb 2016 #36
Lol! zappaman Feb 2016 #38
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
22. That problem has plagued us forever.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:03 PM
Feb 2016

"I need to get elected to do good things, but I need to do some bad things to get elected."

 

Iggy Knorr

(247 posts)
17. Thats the angle, 'Bernie Bros' are MRA
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:02 AM
Feb 2016

submit it to hillary's campaign smear hotline, i'm sure they'll run with it.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
33. Hillary is a right wing registered democrat. If all were right in the world she would be a member of
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

the GOP.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. Skinner pointed out today that lying attacks against Democratic candidates need to be hidden
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:12 AM
Feb 2016

Oh, wait, he pointed out exactly the opposite. Or tried to anyway.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
19. I read the thread, he tried so hard to defend the lies
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:33 AM
Feb 2016

After all the shit that has gone down here in the last six months or so and that is what he came in to defend.

Says a lot about priorities.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
20. He tried poorly.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:27 PM
Feb 2016

He got caught up in stupid DU argumentative styles that he's not remotely experienced with. It's simple. As a Sanders supporter I would have never hidden a mainstream source, even if I disagreed with it. Serving on hundreds of juries, I have never, once, ever, hidden a mainstream news source even if I felt it was biased or disagreed with it.

This might result in Skinner ridding himself of the jury system, but the jury system basically offloads the work he has to deal with, I suspect, in the end, he'll actually implement an appeals system or something like that, so he can maintain his sanity.

The stupid hides over mainstream links, which were admittedly wrong, are enough to show that the jury system has within it biases and nasty dishonest individuals.

And yes, even if you're a Sanders supporter, and yes, eve if you disagreed with their comments, if you voted to hide those posts, you are a dishonest, corrupt, nasty individual. It's mainstream news opinion pieces, there are just as many such pieces bashing Clinton. Get over it. Move on. Have some integrity.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
24. The pieces on Clinton are rarely if ever made up from whole cloth like this attack was
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

This was a hit piece five minutes with Google would show you had holes you could navigate supertanker through.

The whole incident is an indictment of the M$M, not Bernie Sanders or his supporters.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
39. You're alleging the MSM is friendly to Clinton?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:32 PM
Feb 2016

And you expect me to consider that credible?

Even Sanders was tired of those damn emails, which got DAILY coverage leading up to the first debate. Totally fucking delusional. Mainstream sources defended Sanders staffer data theft, I would have never voted to hide that shit. You are simply wrong, defending the indefensible.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
40. What does this have to do with emails?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:42 PM
Feb 2016

I've never voted to hide anything at all on DU, I don't participate in the jury system.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
7. My worry is "what becomes of our daughters ......
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:45 AM
Feb 2016

.... if someone from the republican clown car wins the presidency"

Our daughters will be fine if Clinton or Sanders wins the presidency (actually, they will still be under attack if the legislature remains full of right wing nut jobs).

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
14. Better to then have Bernie Sanders as our nom. Hillary can't win.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:47 AM
Feb 2016

The majority of people don't like her or her politics.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
16. Elizabeth Warren would be a much better role model.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016

Also because she didn't achieve her success on her husband's coattails.

Not that there's anything wrong with a woman doing that, but it will be that much more impressive when we see a woman make it fully on her own. Not to say that Hillary doesn't have many accomplishments to be proud of, but she would never have become a New York Senator if she hadn't been First Lady. And without that Senate experience, it is unlikely that she runs for President in 2008 or becomes Sec'y of State. So, accomplished as she is, it is well arguable that her position still largely goes back to "marrying well."

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
21. I don't think most girls would be that affected by the gender...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:42 PM
Feb 2016

I was a girl in 1979. I saw a hideous right-winger become the first woman Prime Minister of my country!!!

I can assure you that I was extremely horrified, but NOT because Maggie T. was a woman; I felt about her the same way I did about Ronnie Reagan, except that she was HERE, and he wasn't. I was heartbroken at getting 11 years of hard-right government, and 7 more of almost equally hard-right government under other Tories (17 years if you count the Blair government!) but I wasn't more heartbroken because Maggie was female.

In any case: I've been generally staying out of the primary stuff because I'm not American and we have enough infighting in the British Labour Party to last me. If I was voting, it would be for Bernie Sanders. But I would hardly call Hillary Clinton 'highly corrupted', certainly not in comparison with ANY Republican. I should say that girls and women should indeed be heartbroken, if far-righties take over the government and pursue an anti-women (and anti-poor, and anti-minority, etc. etc.) agenda - and it will affect the whole world.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
31. Well stated.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton is a politician and acts it. It's not always pleasant to watch, but I wouldn't go so far as call her corrupt.

And young girls should learn that there are good things and bad things about ALL people (except Dick Cheney, Ted Cruz, and all child molesters and serial killers), and Hillary is no exception.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
28. boom
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:38 PM
Feb 2016

ain't that the truth... and when they learn that the way she became President was by selling out the poor and minorities, for some sweet sweet cash... well, she'll be completely turned off politics for god knows how long...

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
35. Do you ask this question about the sons of politicians you don't like
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

Or do you only play this "gender card" against women?

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
36. You know what? I'm done at DU. Enough is enough. I took most of the week off and I was so much
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

happier. I should learn from that and log out.

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