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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:01 AM Feb 2016

DNC Chair: Superdelegates Make Sure Party Leaders Don’t Have to Run Against Grassroots Activists

“Unpledged delegates exist, really, to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists,” Wasserman-Schultz explained.

“We are, as a Democratic Party, really highlight and emphasize inclusiveness and diversity at our convention, so we want to give every opportunity to grassroots activists and diverse committed Democrats to be able to participate, attend, and be a delegate at the convention. So we separate out those unpledged delegates to make sure that there isn’t competition between them,” she added.

“I’m not sure that answer would satisfy an anxious young voter, but let’s move on,” Tapper replied.

After the Iowa caucus (which Clinton won by 0.3%), and the New Hampshire primary (which Sanders won by 22.4%), Clinton currently has 394 delegates, compared to Sanders’ 44, according to Bloomberg. It takes a total of 2,382 delegates to win the Democratic nomination.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/dnc-chair-superdelegates-make-sure-party-leaders-elected
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DNC Chair: Superdelegates Make Sure Party Leaders Don’t Have to Run Against Grassroots Activists (Original Post) yurbud Feb 2016 OP
DINO Debbie only wants top-down astroturfers. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #1
If nothing else, this is exactly what this very strange primary has made clear. RiverLover Feb 2016 #19
+1000000 azmom Feb 2016 #29
In fact, they TARNISH that label... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #75
From the horses mouth... DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #2
not sure you've identified the right end of the horse FBaggins Feb 2016 #37
Ahh.. Beat me to it! Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #41
It's all about the illusion of democracy. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #3
It's about what Bernie is fighting against, the insidious corporate control over our Democracy! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #34
Sadly true Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #42
Democratic fear of democracy -- disheartening (nt) pat_k Feb 2016 #4
If they play the superdelegates card, a Clinton nomination is illegitimate. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #5
"Illegitimate" is the word. Nyan Feb 2016 #8
Sure are a lot of superdelegates lobodons Feb 2016 #10
And if this happens, I vote Bernie as an independent. Kittycat Feb 2016 #65
They can try it but thanks to the Internet TBF Feb 2016 #68
Indeed, it will NOT be a secret to the voters. Nor will it help Clinton's untrustworthiness n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #76
...and Hillary is going Swift Boat!!! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #36
If they play the superdelegate care, the repugs win everything PFunk1 Feb 2016 #51
Yes, that is exactly what will happen. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #54
That may actually be the plan Hydra Feb 2016 #64
The Democratic Party not honoring Democracy! AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #6
go ahead, dino debbie, bring it restorefreedom Feb 2016 #7
Dino Deb is being PRIMARIED! Let's support her opponent Duppers Feb 2016 #78
excellent! nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #80
Superdelegates are also elected officials lobodons Feb 2016 #9
by the time their next election comes around, it would be yesterday's news yurbud Feb 2016 #26
The news would last at least 4 years. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #30
I hope it would, but pols make decisions based on most of us having short memories. yurbud Feb 2016 #35
Many superdelegates are Congressman.... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #44
Great point. If I had a Dem rep, I would send them a letter about that right now. yurbud Feb 2016 #67
Dem governors are also superdelegates. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #71
problem: too late to primary them by this summer. So unless there's a good independent already qeued yurbud Feb 2016 #69
Keep digging Debbie davidpdx Feb 2016 #11
If superdelegates don't flip to the person who wins the popular vote, it would be over Vinca Feb 2016 #12
Agreed. Superdelegate theft would mean a Clinton nomination is illegitimate. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #22
We want you all to participate and attend, and THINK that your vote matters in choosing Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #13
exactly. Is there much better proof that we're an oligarchy not a democracy? yurbud Feb 2016 #24
Bingo! A former POTUS, Jimmy Carter said the same thing. I think he would know. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #40
so which party is DSW working for again? azurnoir Feb 2016 #14
The Democratic Party leftofcool Feb 2016 #17
so stopping grass roots Democratic candidates is a value of the Democratic Party-got it azurnoir Feb 2016 #18
that statement is like a vampire driving a stake into his own heart. Like Rahm, DWS is a pol only yurbud Feb 2016 #23
DWS already has a record of that. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #55
That's just sad for our party azurnoir Feb 2016 #56
Does that me4an you are pro Wall Street and against Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #57
Nice party you have there.. frylock Feb 2016 #61
Money Party Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #46
Oh please, DWS, let the superdelegates decide. joshcryer Feb 2016 #15
Yes, thank you, no more McGoverns! leftofcool Feb 2016 #16
McGovern was going up against a sitting President SheenaR Feb 2016 #27
A very crooked sitting President, I might add Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #39
That wasn't known until just after the election. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #48
I think 1972 was also the first year Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #73
I think they were casually dating then. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #74
Nope, Bernie is a McGovern repeat leftofcool Feb 2016 #43
And where is Hillary going to win in the GE SheenaR Feb 2016 #59
You are parroting nonsense Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #83
McGovern's social media presence was really lacking. frylock Feb 2016 #62
Is this an example of 30+ years of rw brainwashing noiretextatique Feb 2016 #81
I think they're necessary ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #20
^ Wilms Feb 2016 #21
How parallel is the old DLC list-serv and the list of superdelegates for say 1996 and 2004? HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author SheenaR Feb 2016 #28
There are no winner take all states. leftofcool Feb 2016 #45
There is no defending the indefensible. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #31
I saw that, too. pangaia Feb 2016 #32
They are going to kill the party. They are willfully blind to the destruction their shenanigans will Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #47
Unfortunately, I think you are correct Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #79
if the Democratic Party overturned the Dem voters decision, it would be clear the party yurbud Feb 2016 #33
A tough time getting votes... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #50
the DLC/centrist/Corporatista wing put Dem Party in similar bind as GOP: yurbud Feb 2016 #66
At that point they would rename it..The Ferengi Party. yourout Feb 2016 #52
Want to help UNSEAT DWS in the primaries?? DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #38
Grassroots analysis. UnBlinkingEye Feb 2016 #49
BUT She May Also Be Facing A Buzz Saw Herself! ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #53
Political Revolution kenn3d Feb 2016 #58
I can honestly say SheenaR Feb 2016 #60
"third parties are spoilers! vote in the primaries instead!" "if you don't vote you can't complain!" MisterP Feb 2016 #63
I suspect Greens will get a lot of votes if Clinton steals the nomination. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #72
Happy V-Day Debs. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #70
I'm wondering how Obama made it through the superdelegates gauntlet? cyberpj Feb 2016 #77
Maybe they are "anointed" after all EndElectoral Feb 2016 #82
Superdelegates offsetting the results of primaries is unconstitutional IMHO Samantha Feb 2016 #84
Could you summarize that in a couple of lines, so we can bombard Hillary & DWS with it? yurbud Feb 2016 #85
This was extremely difficult. I am not sure you will like what I came up with, just let me know Samantha Feb 2016 #86
that's good. I mean the relevant Supreme Court decision too. yurbud Feb 2016 #89
Repost this as an OP! LongTomH Feb 2016 #88
My tweet to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz yurbud Feb 2016 #90
Is it democracy???? kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #87
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. DINO Debbie only wants top-down astroturfers.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:29 AM
Feb 2016

Damn, if she doesn't want the people involved, why is it still called the DEMOCRATIC Party?
Thankfully, the first thing Sanders is going to do after he's inaugerated is to clean the rot out of the DNC, starting with Debbie.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
19. If nothing else, this is exactly what this very strange primary has made clear.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:23 AM
Feb 2016

Our leaders are conservative DINOs who work for Moneyed Interests and for us they only give lip service & try to give us only one choice for president while pretending she actually represents US. Not Democracy.

The only thing Democratic about these people is the label they use in vain.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
75. In fact, they TARNISH that label...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

I makes me want to go out and get an animated Dino (Flintstones) dinosaur and throw it at em...

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
34. It's about what Bernie is fighting against, the insidious corporate control over our Democracy!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:28 PM
Feb 2016

More proof that Bernie is needed to clean house. They make his point for him. Hillary is the perfect example of what he/we are fighting against, corporations by enough influence to have a shadow government with tentacles in our media.

I do not choose to live under corporate rule!!!!!!!

Release your Wall Street bank speech transcripts Hillary, show us where you were "tough" on Wall Street!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. If they play the superdelegates card, a Clinton nomination is illegitimate.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:35 AM
Feb 2016

Looks like Debbie is going scorched earth. Hello 1968.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
8. "Illegitimate" is the word.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:43 AM
Feb 2016

There's no other way to put it.

BTW, the primary results so far are:

Popular vote count
Bernie 221,276 Hillary 165,299

Number of total delegates
Bernie 44 Hillary 394

Yep. It would be illegitimate.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
68. They can try it but thanks to the Internet
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

they're not going to get away with it. They may in fact award her the crown, but she will lose big in the general.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
76. Indeed, it will NOT be a secret to the voters. Nor will it help Clinton's untrustworthiness n/t
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:08 PM
Feb 2016

PFunk1

(185 posts)
51. If they play the superdelegate care, the repugs win everything
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:52 PM
Feb 2016

Presidency, house, and senate as many of the democratic base(along with independents and others) will just stay home and not vote. With many leaving the party and becoming independents themselves leaving it in shambles.

Yup. It's scorched earth big time. Which is why I hope saner heads prevail on this one.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
54. Yes, that is exactly what will happen.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:00 PM
Feb 2016

If she keeps going scorched earth, she will lose badly in November and take the entire ticket (including superdelegate office holders) down with her.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
64. That may actually be the plan
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

Because then they will blame the loss on the "purists" of the party.

Then again, there just may not be a party left afterwards.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
7. go ahead, dino debbie, bring it
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:22 AM
Feb 2016

you and your super cronies can say goodbye to your careers

oh and hello to president trump

or president sanders, if he runs third party which he will have every right to to if they steal the nom from him

idiots...STILL don't know how pissed the people really are.....

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
9. Superdelegates are also elected officials
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:44 AM
Feb 2016

They can be voted out if their constituents do not like the way they primary. If a grass roots candidate is an authentic candidate like Bernie we will see super delegates change. Superdelegates however are good safeguards to prevent the Democratic Party from being overrun by some wingnut like Trump. However, you can guarantee if GOP primary goes to convention the establishment i.e. superdelegates on their side will not let Trump come out nominee. So in a sense both parties have safeguards.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
26. by the time their next election comes around, it would be yesterday's news
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:21 PM
Feb 2016

or at least that's what they would count on.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
44. Many superdelegates are Congressman....
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:34 PM
Feb 2016

...up for reelection in November. We will know in August at the Convention whether they are supporting their constituents or corporate masters. We can always vote their asses out of office.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
67. Great point. If I had a Dem rep, I would send them a letter about that right now.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

unfortunately, I live in a GOP district.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
71. Dem governors are also superdelegates.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:25 PM
Feb 2016

And some of the superdelegates are DNC VIPs like party chairs, that may hold local office.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
69. problem: too late to primary them by this summer. So unless there's a good independent already qeued
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:06 PM
Feb 2016

up, it's the corporatista or a Republican.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
12. If superdelegates don't flip to the person who wins the popular vote, it would be over
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:11 AM
Feb 2016

for the Democratic Party. With that in mind, there's really no reason to have superdelegates unless the point is to overturn the will of the majority of the people. When the Republicans have gotten something right - doing away with superdelegates - we really need to examine ourselves. I don't know if this is the first time it's seemed they could throw an election to the person with the least votes, but it ought to be the last.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
22. Agreed. Superdelegate theft would mean a Clinton nomination is illegitimate.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:18 PM
Feb 2016

Few Sanders supporters will vote for her or any downticket Democrats. Call it A Bloody Tuesday In November for the DNC. There won't be much of the party worth saving. A fitting legacy for Clinton and DWS. They'll be forever written in the history books, but not for the reason they hoped.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
13. We want you all to participate and attend, and THINK that your vote matters in choosing
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:37 AM
Feb 2016

a nominee, but really you're second class citizens, and only the wealthy and powerful matter in the primary...

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
40. Bingo! A former POTUS, Jimmy Carter said the same thing. I think he would know.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016

When he said this it should have been page 1 news above the fold. They buried it!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
23. that statement is like a vampire driving a stake into his own heart. Like Rahm, DWS is a pol only
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:19 PM
Feb 2016

a billionaire could love.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
55. DWS already has a record of that.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:03 PM
Feb 2016

She supported republican incumbents rather than their progressive Democrat challengers.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
57. Does that me4an you are pro Wall Street and against
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:21 PM
Feb 2016

election result sd you don't like and cheer for a party dictatorship SELECTING the candidate rather that respect the will of the voters?

Why hold elections if we can just have party insiders together with the lobbyists choose the government for the voters? Surely it will save a lot of time and lobbyist money spent to smear ones opponent.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
15. Oh please, DWS, let the superdelegates decide.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:45 AM
Feb 2016

That'd end the party and it's inconceivable. This only emboldens "activists" to vote in the primary, especially young people.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
27. McGovern was going up against a sitting President
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:21 PM
Feb 2016

with very high approval ratings

We are going up against that nonsense on the other side.

The McGovern comparisons are getting really old

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
39. A very crooked sitting President, I might add
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016

His henchmen burglarized the Democratic National Headquarters a few months before the 1972 election.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
48. That wasn't known until just after the election.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:39 PM
Feb 2016

The burglary was back page news until several months after the election when the ties to CREEP were discovered, and Nixons involvement in the coverup.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
73. I think 1972 was also the first year
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

when the Republicans tried to play the religion card against the Democrats.

I remember the Reverend Billy James Hargis on KTUL-TV (Tulsa, Oklahoma) saying how a vote for Nixon was a righteous vote and a vote for McGovern was a vote for all sorts of bad things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_James_Hargis

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
74. I think they were casually dating then.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

It was after Roe v. Wade that the GOP/Religious Right marriage was consummated.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
59. And where is Hillary going to win in the GE
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

Without support from Independents, young voters, and Bernie supporters who do not come out.

Just curious. We can call her Mondale then.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
83. You are parroting nonsense
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:57 AM
Feb 2016

McGovern lost for a number of reasons, not the least of which was he was running against a crooked incumbent who went so far as to have Democratic National Headquarters burglarized just a few months before the election.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
81. Is this an example of 30+ years of rw brainwashing
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

The Clinton canp keeps whining about? You be the judge.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
25. How parallel is the old DLC list-serv and the list of superdelegates for say 1996 and 2004?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:21 PM
Feb 2016

I get the felling there is going to be a pretty strong correlation in that due to the way the DLC by invitation only membership worked.

Response to yurbud (Original post)

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
32. I saw that, too.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:26 PM
Feb 2016

My god, she just sat there and admitted it!

I mean, talk about living on a flying carpet and zooming around in La-La Land.

She has no idea what she just said !

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
47. They are going to kill the party. They are willfully blind to the destruction their shenanigans will
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:36 PM
Feb 2016

cause. If they put their fingers on the scales, we will have a republican president, and what remains will be a mere husk that once covered a great party.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
79. Unfortunately, I think you are correct
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

And I say this as someone who has associated with the Democratic Party since 1978.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
33. if the Democratic Party overturned the Dem voters decision, it would be clear the party
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:27 PM
Feb 2016

is beyond reform and a new party is needed.

Without progressive voters, there would be no Democratic Party.

Wasserman-Schultz, Rahm, Hillary, and the rest of the corporate Dems would have a tough time getting votes as the party of the 1% WITHOUT religious nuts and racists.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
50. A tough time getting votes...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:46 PM
Feb 2016

...and a tough time getting corporate payola if they are no longer a viable party. They're screwed no matter what. The only question is do they acknowledge the will of the people with grace and integrity, or do they go scorched earth and destroy the party in a "if we can't have it no one can" snit fit? I would hope that the former prevails, but it's looking increasingly like the latter.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
66. the DLC/centrist/Corporatista wing put Dem Party in similar bind as GOP:
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

You just made me realize this:

Just as the GOP is in a bind because they can't keep their racist base AND hope to attract minorities, so the Democrats are finally getting to the point that they can't keep their Wall Street and corporate fat cat donors AND expect their progressive base to keep voting for "progressively" more corrupt Democrats who make less and less pretense of taking care of the people who put them into office.

 

UnBlinkingEye

(56 posts)
49. Grassroots analysis.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:43 PM
Feb 2016

Grass=Marijuana=BAD
Roots=Natural Color=BAD

Obviating the need for super delegates to stop BAD things from happening...

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
53. BUT She May Also Be Facing A Buzz Saw Herself!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016
Tim Canova has launched his campaign to Primary her. If I'm not mistaken, she's NEVER been Primaries and he's getting a GREAT DEAL OF ATTENTION!

He's also needs money, so if there are any Floridians who can help him out he has a web site, and crap I didn't bother to get the link. But it should be pretty easy to find. I'm doing what I can for Bernie by monthly donations and more in between when I can. I'm just not rich enough to help much,

BUT if anyone here can help him, please do! She owns that place down south and she also hob-nobs with Repukes A LOT! But, as with Bernie... he's "standing his ground" (our quaint motto here) and pushing forward!



kenn3d

(486 posts)
58. Political Revolution
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

This unabashed move to undo President Barack Obama's own safeguards against corruption of the DNC is PROOF that their is no democracy left in the Democratic Party:

Under the new rules, political action committees (PACs) and other corporate lobbyists and special interests are now free to donate unlimited sums to the DNC itself. The previous restrictions were put in place by President Barack Obama after his own election, which he marked by saying, “We are going to change how Washington works.”
http://usuncut.com/news/the-dnc-opens-the-gates-to-unlimited-wall-street-funding/
The DNC is now merely a Clinton controlled political machine powered by the Corporate Plutocracy. It will be most interesting to see if PBO can or will do anything to thwart this.

Hillary will be funded and endorsed by the elite "1%" establishment.
Bernie must be funded and elected by the other 99%: We the people.

If the Establishment will not represent the people, we the People must re-establish them.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
60. I can honestly say
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

that if the will of the people was ignored, and the Super Delegates choose the nominee, that I would seriously question whether or not I would remain in the Party. In fact I would definitely be leaving.

I know Bernie has publicly said he will not run an independent campaign. But if this gets stolen from him through this bullcrap, I hope he changes his mind.

We are not the Party that pulls this nonsense. We once were the party of the people. This is going to get ugly.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
63. "third parties are spoilers! vote in the primaries instead!" "if you don't vote you can't complain!"
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016
 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
77. I'm wondering how Obama made it through the superdelegates gauntlet?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

I never really understood it until this year with the Iowa business.

Did he have the same obstacles?

Or just more love from the caucuses?

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
84. Superdelegates offsetting the results of primaries is unconstitutional IMHO
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:43 AM
Feb 2016

I had been thinking how can this possibly be legal when the Constitution specifically delegates the right to run Presidential elections to the individual states, not to political parties. I found there were many people who believe kicking aside a candidate who prevails via acquiring the most legitimate votes in primary contests to usher in another candidate better suited to there preferences is unconstitutional.

Here is one example:

Superdelgate Intervention Unconstitutional

Even critics of superdelegate deals tend to underestimate the gravity of the issue. In its very essence, the superdelegate system is unconstitutional. It destroys the right of primary voters to choose their own nominee. It offends the principle of one person one vote. In three primary cases (Nixon v. Herndon, 1927, Nixon v. Condon, 1932, Smith v. Allwright, 1944) the Supreme Court affirmed that the right to vote in a primary (a right which includes the right to be counted and respected), is protected by the Constitution. Officials cannot legally circumvent the vote. These were discrimination cases, but the arguments apply directly to the superdelegate situation in the Democratic primary.

Up to a point, a political party is master of its own house. But no party, or group within a party, can legally tamper with primary results. In Terry v. Adams (1953), the Court ruled against the "Jay Bird Association," a group of powerful white Democrats who tried to create a private enforcement process within the Democratic primary. Justice Clark ruled that "any part of the machinery for choosing officials becomes subject to the Constitution's restraints."

The superdelegate system flouts the very purpose for which primaries were conceived. "Fighting" Bob LaFollette, the Wisconsin progressive who organized the first primaries in 1903, hated boss-controlled conventions. The aim of the primaries is to remove the nominations from the hands of professionals and the wealthy donors whom professionals obey. The superdelegate issue should not be resolved through deals or negotiations. The integrity of elections is not negotiable. The superdelegate system deserves to be abolished.


http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/02/18/screw-voters-let-superdelegates-decide

I hope Bernie Sanders seeks a Constitutional lawyer's advice on this subject, if he hasn't already.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
86. This was extremely difficult. I am not sure you will like what I came up with, just let me know
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016
One person. One vote. No super tampering to flout the will of the people and their Constitutional rights in this economic, revolutionary Presidential election.


Sam

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
90. My tweet to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 03:12 PM
Feb 2016

Feel free to copy and retweet.


@DWStweets Supreme Court said multiple times party bosses can't trump primary voters: Nixon v. Herndon, Nixon v. Condon Smith v. Allwright
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