2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDear Americans, Please Stop Dreaming of a Better Nation
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/12/dear-americans-please-stop-dreaming-better-nationThis argument that we ought to tamp down our political aspirations has taken many forms as it is oft repeated by those politicos who seem terrified that Bernie might actually win the Democratic presidential nomination. Some say it's the difference between going with the heart or the head. Others have suggested that you have to ground yourself in reality to actually get things done.
And still others seem to suggest that the reason Bernie does so well with young people is that they are somehow hopelessly idealistic and not yet willing to see the realities of political feasibility.
Wow. I think these arguments might be the most unacceptable and bizarre part of the presidential primary season. Who would ever want to ask our young people to scale back their dreams and goals? As Americans, I thought we have always prided ourselves on our unbridled optimism and our ability to do what others do not believe they can do. We are a nation of dreamers and a nation of doers. And I want every young person in America to keep attaching themselves to a powerful narrative of building a better future. My generation hasn't done so well so far in leaving a legacy of improved conditions, and Bernie offers that hope to me and to the young alike. That is powerful stuff. Why would we ever want to temper that?
The less flattering argument about Bernie's platform is that somehow the issues he addresses and solutions proposed are less well thought out or reflect some lesser degree of intelligent problem solving. That is insulting and just flat wrong. Every issuefrom Medicare for all, single-payer healthcare to tuition-free public college to an end to mass incarceration to expanding and protecting Social Security to implementing a financial transaction tax to pay for these incredibly important plansis grounded in the reality that so many people are being harmed by the lack of appropriate policy change for decades in Washington, D.C. For many years, Bernie stood alone as he demanded a different way to conduct business.
So, as I watch more debates and hear the arguments against Bernie, I stand more determined than ever. I was raised by hard working parents and taught to work hard myself. But despite a half century of really hard work, I do not own a home, I have limited savings, and my retirement plan is Social Securityif I live long enough to actually retire. This is a far cry from what I dreamed for myself.
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)"if you don't ask, you won't get"
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Ask for more than you expect. Because if you ask for what you expect, you might not even get that.
When you sell a car you ask for a few hundred more dollars than you would like because the buyer is always going to try to get something less than asking price and it makes them feel good to get a deal.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... congress with safe seats for half generation and do NOTHING for Americans as the GOP is doing now?
Would that be more progressive?
I'm tired of hearing people scream at the cab driver for not going through stop and go traffic faster
tia
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)ie,
17 hours ago
Dear Americans
As part owner of the largest store in the world, I am concerned that you are getting too uppity. Although our 3.5 million employees do not make a living wage, you can buy all the cheap disposable environmentally unfriendly crap from China that you like at our 11,620 stores. I personally am worth 34 billion dollars and earned every penny by being born a Walton. Even though I am the wealthiest woman on earth, and have been arrested multiple times for driving while intoxicated, I am a nice person. It's true that in 1989, I killed a 50 year old woman by speeding in my sports car, and that no charges were ever filed. But that is the way things should be. Just ask my good friend Hillary. My advice would be to just keep shopping at Walmart and stop dreaming of a better nation. It doesn't exist.........for you.
Signed, Alice Walton
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Independence, suffrage, ending slavery, unionizing, living wage, decent work hours, health care, etc
Those unrealistic activists stuck it out & achieved "the impossible."
So can WE.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Great great grandfather, Union Army
Great grandmother who marched for suffrage
Grandfather who worked to protect the environment
Father who fought to unionize the auto industry
They were not 'idealists'. They asked the very realistic question, "What's the alternative?"
jonestonesusa
(880 posts)Spending so many election cycles expecting less, cowering from the opposition, while Republicans win way more seats than the number of people that support them, failing to stand up for real change - it all needs to end!
It's so true that now, politicians like Clinton are schooling young people to expect less and ask for less. It's a campaign - inspire people, especially young people, who will have to deal with the mess once we middle-aged and older people have passed on. What will we leave for them??? So glad that Sanders is putting these perspectives into the political conversation, and it's up to us to turn it into policy!!
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)They deserve a chance to fight rather than have no power as the chosen establishment pieces move about the board compromising away their hopes, dreams, and futures.
I want them to have the chance that we did when we fought the good fight and achieved some of our liberal goals. They decided (our party in the eighties, culminating in '92) that there would no longer be a party to fight with the idealistic youth for things like labor rights, The New Deal, The Great Society, Civil Liberties, Equality for Women and the last attempted fight that died on the vine, the fight against poverty that was abandoned in favor of a fight against the poor via welfare reform.
They deserve to fight for these things as we did, not because they are easy, but because they are necessary to their survival.
The deserve more than the smell of sulfur that brings forth a demon of lesser evil that says "no you cant!" - "I will compromise away your fight for you so you may have the crumbs my corporate sponsors allow you to have."
They deserve the right to fight and leadership that will help rather than hinder that fight.
We all had that (us older folk) but took it for granted. They have only had dismissal and the lack of support offered Vichy Republican collaborators.
Let us help them elect someone (many ones) that will allow them to fight.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Classic Clinton politics.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)temporary311
(955 posts)I'll vote for the one willing to step into the ring, over the one who doesn't even wanna lace em up, every time.