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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:36 AM Feb 2016

Dear Americans, Please Stop Dreaming of a Better Nation

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/12/dear-americans-please-stop-dreaming-better-nation

This argument that we ought to tamp down our political aspirations has taken many forms as it is oft repeated by those politicos who seem terrified that Bernie might actually win the Democratic presidential nomination. Some say it's the difference between going with the heart or the head. Others have suggested that you have to ground yourself in reality to actually get things done.

And still others seem to suggest that the reason Bernie does so well with young people is that they are somehow hopelessly idealistic and not yet willing to see the realities of political feasibility.

Wow. I think these arguments might be the most unacceptable and bizarre part of the presidential primary season. Who would ever want to ask our young people to scale back their dreams and goals? As Americans, I thought we have always prided ourselves on our unbridled optimism and our ability to do what others do not believe they can do. We are a nation of dreamers and a nation of doers. And I want every young person in America to keep attaching themselves to a powerful narrative of building a better future. My generation hasn't done so well so far in leaving a legacy of improved conditions, and Bernie offers that hope to me and to the young alike. That is powerful stuff. Why would we ever want to temper that?

The less flattering argument about Bernie's platform is that somehow the issues he addresses and solutions proposed are less well thought out or reflect some lesser degree of intelligent problem solving. That is insulting and just flat wrong. Every issue—from Medicare for all, single-payer healthcare to tuition-free public college to an end to mass incarceration to expanding and protecting Social Security to implementing a financial transaction tax to pay for these incredibly important plans—is grounded in the reality that so many people are being harmed by the lack of appropriate policy change for decades in Washington, D.C. For many years, Bernie stood alone as he demanded a different way to conduct business.

So, as I watch more debates and hear the arguments against Bernie, I stand more determined than ever. I was raised by hard working parents and taught to work hard myself. But despite a half century of really hard work, I do not own a home, I have limited savings, and my retirement plan is Social Security—if I live long enough to actually retire. This is a far cry from what I dreamed for myself.
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cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
6. In fact
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:40 AM
Feb 2016

Ask for more than you expect. Because if you ask for what you expect, you might not even get that.

When you sell a car you ask for a few hundred more dollars than you would like because the buyer is always going to try to get something less than asking price and it makes them feel good to get a deal.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
2. or just pass a constitutional amendment banning gerrymandering so one party can't take over...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:02 AM
Feb 2016

... congress with safe seats for half generation and do NOTHING for Americans as the GOP is doing now?

Would that be more progressive?

I'm tired of hearing people scream at the cab driver for not going through stop and go traffic faster

tia

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
3. Great piece. The comments are great as well.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:00 AM
Feb 2016

ie,

Cookies
17 hours ago

Dear Americans
As part owner of the largest store in the world, I am concerned that you are getting too uppity. Although our 3.5 million employees do not make a living wage, you can buy all the cheap disposable environmentally unfriendly crap from China that you like at our 11,620 stores. I personally am worth 34 billion dollars and earned every penny by being born a Walton. Even though I am the wealthiest woman on earth, and have been arrested multiple times for driving while intoxicated, I am a nice person. It's true that in 1989, I killed a 50 year old woman by speeding in my sports car, and that no charges were ever filed. But that is the way things should be. Just ask my good friend Hillary. My advice would be to just keep shopping at Walmart and stop dreaming of a better nation. It doesn't exist.........for you.
Signed, Alice Walton

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
5. Some other things which were hopelessly idealistic
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:40 AM
Feb 2016

Independence, suffrage, ending slavery, unionizing, living wage, decent work hours, health care, etc

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
10. Countless 'idealists' put everything on the line to achieve the impossible
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:16 AM
Feb 2016

Great great grandfather, Union Army

Great grandmother who marched for suffrage

Grandfather who worked to protect the environment

Father who fought to unionize the auto industry

They were not 'idealists'. They asked the very realistic question, "What's the alternative?"



jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
8. Amazing article - thanks for posting!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:51 AM
Feb 2016

Spending so many election cycles expecting less, cowering from the opposition, while Republicans win way more seats than the number of people that support them, failing to stand up for real change - it all needs to end!

It's so true that now, politicians like Clinton are schooling young people to expect less and ask for less. It's a campaign - inspire people, especially young people, who will have to deal with the mess once we middle-aged and older people have passed on. What will we leave for them??? So glad that Sanders is putting these perspectives into the political conversation, and it's up to us to turn it into policy!!

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
11. Most importantly, his approach gives them the opportunity to fight for idealistic things
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

They deserve a chance to fight rather than have no power as the chosen establishment pieces move about the board compromising away their hopes, dreams, and futures.

I want them to have the chance that we did when we fought the good fight and achieved some of our liberal goals. They decided (our party in the eighties, culminating in '92) that there would no longer be a party to fight with the idealistic youth for things like labor rights, The New Deal, The Great Society, Civil Liberties, Equality for Women and the last attempted fight that died on the vine, the fight against poverty that was abandoned in favor of a fight against the poor via welfare reform.

They deserve to fight for these things as we did, not because they are easy, but because they are necessary to their survival.

The deserve more than the smell of sulfur that brings forth a demon of lesser evil that says "no you cant!" - "I will compromise away your fight for you so you may have the crumbs my corporate sponsors allow you to have."

They deserve the right to fight and leadership that will help rather than hinder that fight.
We all had that (us older folk) but took it for granted. They have only had dismissal and the lack of support offered Vichy Republican collaborators.

Let us help them elect someone (many ones) that will allow them to fight.

temporary311

(955 posts)
14. Given the choice,
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

I'll vote for the one willing to step into the ring, over the one who doesn't even wanna lace em up, every time.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
15. "Forget about your goals and dreams and vote for me" is about the most toxic rallying cry ever n/t
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:23 PM
Feb 2016
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