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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:35 AM Feb 2016

I wonder if Photogate is going to be a vaccine against attacks on Bernie's integrity?

One of our fellow DU folk is a reporter, and has made some astute commentary about negative campaigning (which this appears to be - the terms "rat" and "copulation slang" are being used) being the GoTo when there are problems in a campaign, and hinted that this is probably a first wave of such attacks.

However.

One of the appealing things about Bernie is his apparent integrity. He could have chosen an easy route of being a pure Democrat, but instead worked harder as a Stubborn Independent. This means if he wanted to accomplish anything, he had to broker himself, without having a "party" to back him, and his Senate colleagues had to TRUST HIM because no one was available to "reign him in" so to speak if he lied. (I am okay with him running as a Democrat because of the two parties, it seems to be where he belongs.) Photogate was pretty bluntly an attack on one of his most appealing qualities: His Integrity.

And it is blowing up, which means (if the intrepid reporter is right) the mudslinging is going to get worse. (What else can you do when you can't win on reality?)

But now everyone knows "Photogate was a Farce" - will this create an automatic inoculation against future smears, similar to a vaccine allowing antibodies to be generated? Will it work with the press, who supposedly don't want to be tarnished as "gullible fools"? Will it work with his supporters - "wow, what will they come up with next - is Bernie really a secret Catholic woman who is being mind controlled by the Pope?"

Primary passions are important, and candidly, I am okay with this attack on Bernie's character because I am glad to see the measured response when detractors say things that aren't true because I guarantee, on purpose or accidentally, it WILL happen in the future as political opponents, other countries and even people jockeying for their pet causes all toss their opinions out there for the world to see.

How do YOU handle it when someone tells lies about you? It is life, and it happens. The leader of our country can't just decide to "never speak to you ever again" because that won't work. The leader of our country needs to be able not just to forgive, but to also make sure the behavior isn't rewarded, with the ultimate goal being to make sure that what is best for the country is accomplished.

It seems to be like parenting a teenager, really. Maybe that is why "Grandpa Bernie" seems like such a good choice?

Okay, maybe that was a silly analogy! Or maybe not.

Either way, "Photogate" looks to me like it is going to be a Good Thing whether just as a simple "inoculation against stupid smears" or as an example of what to expect when subjected to the same in the future.

I am even more comfortable in my support of Bernie Sanders as President.

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I wonder if Photogate is going to be a vaccine against attacks on Bernie's integrity? (Original Post) IdaBriggs Feb 2016 OP
Smears like this certainly backfire among those of us who follow politics closely EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #1
This Tweet is a good reason to care exboyfil Feb 2016 #3
The biggest reason Bush won in 2004 exboyfil Feb 2016 #2

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
1. Smears like this certainly backfire among those of us who follow politics closely
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:53 AM
Feb 2016

The Internet has a way of ferreting out bullshit. I think these attacks are probably more effective with people who don't pay as much attention to the day to day details.

That said, I imagine the typical reaction to "photogate" is "who cares?".

I would also like to point out that my phone keeps trying to autocorrect "ferreting" to "ferret ingredients". That is all.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
3. This Tweet is a good reason to care
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

Jonathan Capehart:

92% of NH voters who want “honest” candidate voted for Sanders. So why does he continue to use this photo?

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
2. The biggest reason Bush won in 2004
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016

was the screw up by CBS of the Killian forged memos. It immunized Bush from legitimate criticism of his service record. It also indirectly allowed others to criticize Kerry who served honorably in a front line position that underwent fire.

A Sanders surrogate should increase the heat on the Times reporter, the Washington Post columnist, and MSNBC. Also try to get answers from Cook and the other alumni who made the claim and find out from the university why the archive picture was changed.

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