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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:03 PM Feb 2016

John Kasich and the Clintons Collaborated on Law That Helped Double Extreme Poverty

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/13/john-kasich-and-the-clintons-collaborated-on-law-that-helped-double-extreme-poverty-in-america/

John Kasich and the Clintons Collaborated on Law That Helped Double Extreme Poverty



Republican presidential candidate John Kasich has promoted himself both as a friend of the working poor and as a foe of Hillary Clinton, but as House Budget Committee chairman in the 1990s, he worked with the Clintons to roll back welfare programs, helping double extreme poverty in America.

In 1996, the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans worked hand in hand to pass what they called the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, colloquially known as “welfare reform.”

The legislation famously “ended welfare as we know it,” replacing Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) with Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). The newly-created TANF placed a time limit on how long the federal government would extend financial assistance to poor families.

Kasich was one of the legislation’s prime movers. After clashes between Clinton and the Republicans over earlier versions of the bill, Kasich introduced what went on to become the final legislation in June 1996. By late July, the administration and the Republicans had solved their disagreements, and a conference bill coasted to passage by a 328-101 vote (Bernie Sanders, another presidential contender, opposed it).

“It was pretty amazing today to watch the President of the United States come on television and say that he was going to, in fact, sign this welfare bill,” Kasich boasted on the House floor on July 31, 1996.

He invoked the civil rights era to tout the cutbacks in funding to the poor, saying:

We marched 30, 40 years ago because we thought people were not being treated fairly, and we march today for the very same reason. What I would say, and maybe let me take it back and say many of my friends marched. I was too young, but I watched, and I respect it. What I would suggest at the end of the day, however, is that we all are going to have to stand up for those who get neglected in reform, but frankly this system is going to provide far more benefits, far more hope, restore the confidence in the American people that we have a system that will help those that cannot help themselves and at the same time demand something from able-bodied people who can. It will benefit their children, it will help the children of those who go to work.

One of the leading dissenters in the House was Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga. “The bill we are considering today is a bad bill. I will vote against it and I urge all people of conscience to vote against it. It is a bad bill because it penalizes children for the actions of their parents,” he thundered. “This bill, Mr. Speaker, will put 1 million more children into poverty. How, how can any person of faith, of conscience vote for a bill that puts a million more kids into poverty?… What does it profit a great nation to conquer the world, only to lose its soul? Mr. Speaker, this bill is an abdication of our responsibility and an abandonment of our morality. It is wrong, just plain wrong.”

Kasich’s response to opponents of the bill was terse: “People are not entitled to anything but opportunity. You can’t be on welfare for generations.”

Kasich explained: “America has been crying for this bill now for a generation. They’re sick of generational dependency and, frankly, they wanted a fundamental change. I’m glad the President’s going to sign the bill, and I want to compliment him for that.” He concluded: “And this is one of those successes that when we get old and we’re all in our rocking chairs, we’re going to look back and say, ‘’Thank God we were able to make America a little bit better.’”

Bill and Hillary Clinton both advocated strongly for the changes.

President Clinton used the story of a black mother named Lillie Harden he had met in Arkansas during a panel on welfare reform. He touted her story of going from being on AFDC for two years to getting a job at a supermarket. He cited her response to a question about what she liked best about being off of welfare: “When my boy goes to school and they say what does your mama do for a living, he can give an answer.”

Clinton invited Harden to the signing ceremony of the bill, and also cited her during his debate later that year with Bob Dole. “I want to make more people like that woman, Lillie Harden. So I’ve got a plan to do it. And it’s just the beginning,” he said.

Hillary Clinton was involved with publicly advocating for passage and implementation of welfare reform in her role as First Lady. In a Newsweek cover story in 1993, she weighed in on the upcoming welfare reform debate.
“How do we as a society address the 15-year-old mother on welfare? What do we owe her? Can we demand a set of behavioral standards from her?” asked the interviewer. “Sure, I’ve been talking about that since 1973,” replied the First Lady. “You know, I am one of the first people who wrote about how rights and responsibilities had to go hand in hand.”

“When you talk about moving someone to work from welfare in two years, what happens to people who don’t want to work? Would you impose sanctions?” followed up the interviewer. “Oh, I think you have to. What happened in Arkansas is that people who refused for whatever reason to participate had their benefits cut,” she replied.

Hillary Clinton continued to defend the welfare cutback over the years. “Too many of those on welfare had known nothing but dependency all their lives, and many would have found it difficult to make the transition to work on their own,” she wrote in a 1999 op-ed. In a 2002 interview she said the policy has resulted in recipients “no longer” being “deadbeats — they’re actually out there being productive.”
Hillary Clinton’s advocacy for welfare reform strained her relationship with her mentor and former boss, Marian Wright Edelman, the head of the Children’s Defense Fund. After the signing of the bill, Edelman wrote that “President Clinton’s signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children.”
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John Kasich and the Clintons Collaborated on Law That Helped Double Extreme Poverty (Original Post) amborin Feb 2016 OP
That's right, cut welfare so they'll go to work & then ship our jobs overseas RiverLover Feb 2016 #1
exactly...and thanks to NAFTA and the tax-dodging & oursourcing Corps that have donated big $$$$ to amborin Feb 2016 #5
Fight for 15 and make sure there is a job for all. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #2
Kick Karmadillo Feb 2016 #3
The problem with all these programs is that they don't address the issue: JOBS. Octafish Feb 2016 #4
Not at all surprised. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #6

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
1. That's right, cut welfare so they'll go to work & then ship our jobs overseas
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

so they can't find work.

Republican-approved Clintonism really must end.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
5. exactly...and thanks to NAFTA and the tax-dodging & oursourcing Corps that have donated big $$$$ to
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary, things will only get worse

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
2. Fight for 15 and make sure there is a job for all.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:25 PM
Feb 2016

A system the needs more than 10 million people unemployed to function properly is cruel.

Add a surtax to business that is double the unemployment rate and use the proceeds to give jobs to the unemployed.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. The problem with all these programs is that they don't address the issue: JOBS.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

Most poor people I know who work, work a crap job -- those "lucky enough" to find work.

If the private sector won't or can't create enough jobs for ALL, then the government should create the jobs.

That's what the New Deal was all about. That's what I was told -- twice now: by Bill Clinton and Barack Obama -- that they would do.

Yet, nothing like what was supposed to happen, happened. They didn't even bring it up much after they were told, "No" by Congress or whoever.

Thank you for the heads-up, amborin. That is a history most near and dear to know



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