2016 Postmortem
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I incorrectly assumed Jonathan Capehart was working on a retraction on his now completely proven false smear on Senator Sanders. So this is what he is now tweeting. It is called, "trying to save my career as it circles the drain by having it both ways". One of the more pathetic things I have seen in quite some time, and that says a lot. Got caught up in a Clinton smear gone awry and is flailing in the wind. @CapehartJ is exploding with righteous outrage. UPDATE: University of Chicago Archives of the photo in question has been changed to CORRECTLY identify Bernie Sanders.
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http://photoarchive.lib.uchicago.edu/db.xqy?one=apf4-01698.xml
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Punkingal
(9,522 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)And he is just going to frame it as differences of memory.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)He could have attempted to do his job right, instead of throwing Bernie under one of your famous buses.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Now he's put it in reverse and is just driving back and forth.
randys1
(16,286 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)it's DEFCON Level 2 up in here. This is not an exercise.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Capehart will never, ever match. John Lewis who is another subject of famous Danny Lyon photos has praised both his work and his personal courage while in the Congress. Capehart calls him a liar. I proudly stand with John Lewis in holding Danny Lyon in high esteem. Capehart does not.
He pushed that story he made up in every medium he could find and did so in taunting, mocking tones. He did not bother to speak with Lyon because he did not even think about the photographer as documentarian, nor did it cross his bias tiny mind that that photographer might be a respected artist and journalist himself. Curated, collected, lauded person, not some guy who has some shoebox full of negatives from his old Instamatic from the hippy days.
The basic problem with Capehart is that he claims to be a reporter and yet he does not research stories prior to launching attacks on Democratic candidates. That's not being a reporter, that's being a gossip. Repeating gossip as if it was truth is called 'bearing false witness' and it is a kind of lie that is particularly odious.
Plus, why anyone is defending Capehart who said Darren Wilson shot Mike Brown in justified self defense I do not know. He spends much time explaining the shitty things he 'reports' on Twitter. How many apologies long is the plank he's walking, that's the only real question about his future.
merrily
(45,251 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Are you trying to get people NOT to vote for Bernie?
Seriously, you must be.
I was a Bernie supporter probably before you knew who he was, and yes, I still am.
Go insult someone else by calling them a liar please.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)A media person who (theoretically) has an audience lies about Sanders but that's okay with you? He attempts to swiftboat someone of great character who has fought for civil rights his entire adult life and that's okay with you? He questions the integrity of a photographer but that's okay with you? He continues to "throw under the bus" Sanders and Lyon after it is known that he is wrong and you're more concerned with one anonymous poster on a discussion forum making a comment about a public person?
Perspective. It matters.
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randys1
(16,286 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)and he is going on and on about this on Twitter even this morning, don't you think he has shown himself to have no integrity and to not deserve much respect?
The phrase "throwing under the bus" is so easy to use, but I think has become a lazy way of dismissing criticism that one does not like to hear. If the criticism is well deserved it is not "throwing under the bus" it is actually criticism.
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Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I don't think he ever said that....at least not that I'm aware of.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)That he had interviewed the ex wife and photographer and was "transcribing"..
We assumed wrong, evidently.. if his tweets above are any indication.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Got it.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)photog and wife, and was writing (last night). *I* assumed.. I should not speak for anyone else !
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)But it doesn't make it true. But, I look at who you support and I guess you are just following your role model. Totally not your fault, it's how she is raising you.
Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts).
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Or, at least Danny Lyon and John Lewis say it is John Lewis. He's bowing his head so it really is hard to be sure.....which is why we take the word of the photographer. Sure looks like John Lewis.....
http://www.mocp.org/detail.php?t=objects&type=browse&f=maker&s=Lyon%2C+Danny&record=81
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)You were an eyewitness. Right?
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Glad you are on record with that.
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TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)refuse to let it go or admit they're wrong. Thank you, thank you, thank you for continuing to respond, it just makes everything so clear.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)that they hope if he keeps playing this game some abusive "BernieBros" (newly minted and untraceable of course) will slither out of the woodwork and be either racist , homophobic, or both towards Capehart-it's their only way out now-change the goalposts
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)layer of deviousness I can't comprehend.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)when all else fails go after Bernie's 'supporters' or those we can make appear to be that
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Someone wrote a lengthy article comparing the two, I'll have to find it. But it is all very familiar to me !
Human101948
(3,457 posts)It doesn't matter--Bernie was there and now Capeheart is just trying to save face.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)National Enquirer is hopeful !
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They're always looking to hire 'journalists' of his caliber.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)@CapehartJ You were wrong. You were played. You doubled down. You lost. Just admit it.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...from the same event. There is no doubt that it's Bernie. The photographer is telling the truth.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)he's going to "leave it up to the readers".. But this is bizarre !!
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Capehart called Lyon and is trying to make himself the victim here!
https://dektol.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/more-bernie-civil-rights-photos-found/#comment-1291
snip -
Correct. This is Danny Lyon He called me and asked to record me, which I agreed to. His main interest seemed to be to ask things like when did the campaign contact me (they hadnt).
His only interest was in the idea that there was some kind of conspiracy to either undermine him, or created by
the Sanders campaign. It was a bazaar conversation, that I almost regret having. He recorded me for at least
half an hour. If he was a journalist he would immediately publish the truth, or at least admit
that he spoke with the person that made the pictures, and admit that other pictures now show that this is Bernie Sanders as a young activist.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)He's not working on a retraction, he's working on a non-apology apology.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but proceed Mr Capehart proceed
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...which Capehart never bothered doing. Then again, he wasn't tasked to research and report, he was tasked to spread propaganda. I'm glad he was exposed, perhaps a warning to other 'journalists' willing to risk their reputations and careers on becoming a shill.
demwing
(16,916 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Any small town reporter could do as well -- or more likely better.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Matthews' show and why he questioned the picture again.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Including the part where they both flung their hands in the air trying to imitate Senator Sanders.
And where the redheaded "journalist" called Sanders "pathetic"
Where they ambushed Tad DeVine with this smear and called the campaign deceptive.
What were YOU watching?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Just spinning a story to sow doubts and keep his story alive.
But if it wasn't this clown it would just be some other clown, because his bosses at the Post and MSNBC are clearly encouraging it.
Capehart has allowed himself to become an attack dog for the 1%.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)tblue37
(65,407 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...he could have salvaged his reputation. As it is, he's just committing career suicide. What a tool.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)are two sides to every story. But Bruce Rappaport, let's focus on THAT guy, because it might still be HIM!"
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Jonathan Capehart's partner, Nick Schmit, is a staffer on Hillary Clinton's current and previous presidential campaigns. Nick worked for Hillary at the State Department. He's is also part of the Washington Post editorial board....................
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)That explains why my post about this on the Washington Post page was deleted.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)but the internet is a wonderful tool for finding possible motives of some people's actions at times.
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)google Nick Schmit....he worked for Hillary.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)
is an architect..
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Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)anyone can edit wiki, apparently someone did....
cui bono
(19,926 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Campaign used Nick-> Capehart connection to plant their smear, coordinated with Rep Lewis's smear job and Brock's baseless claim in Blue Nation Revue that 'BernieBros' were attacking Lewis on social media...the 'BernieBros' probably being his own trolls and sock puppets at Correct The Record PAC, which coordinates directly with the Clinton campaign.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)aren't they?
--imm
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...Hillary's base.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Good luck with that...
immoderate
(20,885 posts)Thanks.
--imm
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The simple fact is there has been a growing anger among the population towards the bubble-living DC and Wall St oligarchs. It has reached the boiling point across the political spectrum, evidenced by populist candidates in both parties getting strong support. Though DWS may think she can put down the democratic 'peasant revolt' with a goon squad of a couple hundred superdelegates, we vastly outnumber them and the center cannot hold. This is what a revolution is about...a populace replacing unpopular leadership that's clinging to power, addicted to money. They had their chance at 'incremental change' and wouldn't deliver. Therefore it is time to make history. Lead, follow, or get swept out by the tsunami.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Any reputation he had is circling the drain and dragging WaPo down with it. If the paper was smart they'd can such a sloppy reporter and exposed liar.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Guiseppe Lignano
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)So I don't know where the stuff about him being married to Guiseppe Lignano is coming from when I Google !!
http://capitolfile-magazine.com/inside-jonathan-capehart-and-nick-schmits-house
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)And not in a good way.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...just like Nixon. Maybe some kind of authoritarian tribal herd instinct?
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)This fool is not making things any better with this nonsense.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)The corporate media loves to see that someone has what it takes to take down the people they want taken down. Chris Matthews is a great example of such a person, his career is all about slapping down people that are irritating the oligarchs.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)But if he had any ambition of becoming a credible respected journalist he just flushed it down the toilet.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I wish what you said was true, but reality is much worse than that. He is making wise career choices by going after Bernie's civil rights history, and he knows it.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)How did that work out for Jayson Blair?
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Capehart's doing exactly what the money guys want, he'll go far.
Get back to me when Capehart can't work for anyone but fringe outfits, I won't hold my breath.
mainer
(12,022 posts)Several Twitter messages say the caption once again IDs Sanders as the speaker in the photo.
Mischief managed.
http://photoarchive.lib.uchicago.edu/db.xqy?one=apf4-01698.xml
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)It creates a distraction so people don't focus on the message, or on the differences between the candidates. It DELIBERATELY derails the important conversations we need to be having as a nation.
The sole purpose of this sort of attack, especially around something so unimportant, is to take control of the conversation. Don't fall for it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And this is what it is
Matariki
(18,775 posts)I think it probably needs to be addressed through surrogates, with derision, than by the candidate themselves.
amborin
(16,631 posts)this swiftboating is going to the core of what NH voters say they wanted:
a candidate with integrity.....this is an attack on Bernie's integrity
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I'd say his campaign manager and his supporters had his back on this one. Swift boating IS an important issue to combat.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)been the ones driving the correction of this smear. WELL DONE !
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Capeheart is not happy. He's gotten pounded.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)They tried to swiftboat Bernie and it's not something we can just ignore. Ask Kerry what happens when you do.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)If I recall, they got him involved in the fight.
Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)but, of course, it never would be.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Propaganda arm of Capital.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)you dear oct are a much better journalist than capehart will ever be
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)sounds like the guy should watch fewer action films and focus on factual journalism. Although he'll have a long career spreading FUD and raking in the big bucks, so why bother?
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Article 1: Definitely NOT Bernie
Draft 1, Article 2: well, not so cut and dry, after all
Draft 2, Article 2: ya see, this is wha wha wha happen'. The word of a proud photographer conflicts with the the pride of an ex-wife and friends.