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Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:09 PM Feb 2016

Please consider my prediction about race in this primary.

In case of a jury deciding whether to hide this OP, which is likely, I would ask jurors to consider the following. This post is an opinion, but it is presented respectfully and without unfair labels of characterization. It is an attempt to counteract some attacks which will almost certainly be forthcoming on this site and elsewhere. If we can’t engage in honest and respectful dialog on this site, then what does that say about the state of the Democratic Party, at least on DU?

I am a lifelong Democrat. I have been aware of every Democratic nominee since 1960, but the first time I had some political consciousness was in 1968, when I was 13. Here is what I can say about every GOP primary from 1968. Each one has used race as a wedge issue to divide people and set them against each other. It was part of Nixon’s “Southern Strategy.” It remains part of the ugliness of the GOP.

Here is what I can tell you about Democratic primaries: usually when race plays a high profile in the campaign, it is an attempt at coalition building and inclusion, rather than as a wedge issue to divide people. Campaigns that come to mind in that regard are Shirley Chisholm in 1972, Jesse Jackson in 1988, Bill Bradley in 2000 and John Edwards in 2008.

The only two Democratic primaries, at least as far back as 1968, where race has been used as a wedge issue, i.e. divisively, is in 2008 and 2016. The only common denominator in those two primaries is Secretary Clinton.

I am raising this issue because of the following prediction: I believe this problem is going to get more and more ugly until the nomination is resolved. I hope that once it is resolved we can pick up the pieces and move forward. In the mean time, if you see a racial political attack, please consider my prediction.

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Please consider my prediction about race in this primary. (Original Post) Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 OP
This is fair and on point JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #1
I share your view Rebkeh Feb 2016 #2
Agreed! nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #3
Agree, and K&R Punkingal Feb 2016 #4
Disagree: it was also a wedge issue in the 1988 primary (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #5
Which Dem candidate, in your view, Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #7
Everyone who wasn't Jesse Jackson (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #8
I misunderstood. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #9
It was basically pretending his campaign didn't exist Recursion Feb 2016 #10
Iirc, they didn't cover him proportionately Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #14
Interesting. H2O Man Feb 2016 #11
Exactly: his campaign was only painted as "black" once that stopped being accurate Recursion Feb 2016 #12
You are right! H2O Man Feb 2016 #13
If it gets uglier, it's going to destroy the party enigmatic Feb 2016 #6

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
7. Which Dem candidate, in your view,
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:50 PM
Feb 2016

used race to divide people? I don't recall that, so I am really curious.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
9. I misunderstood.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:44 PM
Feb 2016

Now I see what you mean. I didn't follow the Dem primary very closely in 1988 so I don't have many memories of it. Was it overt with respect to one or more candidates?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
10. It was basically pretending his campaign didn't exist
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016

and that his voters and delegates weren't really there. It was different because it was a clique of white candidates ignoring the candidate who was 3rd (and sometimes 2nd) in the delegate count.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
14. Iirc, they didn't cover him proportionately
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:07 PM
Feb 2016

to the the other candidates, but my memory is vague. I had a very young family and was early in my career.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
11. Interesting.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:48 PM
Feb 2016

I think the Democratic establishment rallied to block Jesse, largely on economic issues. He was reaching white farmers and factory workers, to an extent that concerned the powers that be. I thought that this, while obviously tied to issues of race, was the most important factor in 1988.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. Exactly: his campaign was only painted as "black" once that stopped being accurate
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:49 PM
Feb 2016

IIRC he was actually in 2nd place for a bit.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
13. You are right!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:53 PM
Feb 2016

I've wrote a lot about that primary here on DU over the years. It was one of the great betrayals by the Democratic Party's establishment in history.

I was there in the park in Boston the night that the the nominee screwed Jesse. But it was only the last of a long line of betrayals,which cost us the election.

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