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K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:00 PM Feb 2016

University of Chicago CORRECTS photo archives. Confirms it is Sanders.

Sorry, this is the last time I will post on this, but I do think it is important to see that we CAN push back against media smear and narrative, and get things done. All photos in the archives, and there are three sets which can be found by searching "bernie sanders", are all now labeled correctly.

http://photoarchive.lib.uchicago.edu/db.xqy?one=apf4-01698.xml

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University of Chicago CORRECTS photo archives. Confirms it is Sanders. (Original Post) K Gardner Feb 2016 OP
Great to hear. azmom Feb 2016 #1
Thanks Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #2
Thank you. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #3
WE the internet people helped fixed it by putting the pressure on. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #4
Yes "we" can.. LOL.. it was SURELY internet driven.. K Gardner Feb 2016 #36
And yes we can passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #121
Yes. One nasty political smear down. How many left to go? senz Feb 2016 #108
There will be a lot more. Good practice for the Repigs later on. navarth Feb 2016 #111
Prosecuted for what? The University just needs to put a process in place JimDandy Feb 2016 #146
We need to MAKE SURE that everyone sees & hears this!!! napi21 Feb 2016 #176
I think you're right. Since the MSM won't do its job, we are now the media. senz Feb 2016 #178
Great when the truth wins out, when high principle wins out, but notice YOU GOT TO STAND UP! highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #182
K&R demosocialist Feb 2016 #5
Thank you for participating and the kind words ! K Gardner Feb 2016 #35
It s not 2004 any longer. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #6
Agreed... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #11
You said it. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #12
Nor is it 2000 and Gore v Bush !!! :-) K Gardner Feb 2016 #16
Correct nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #18
K&R kristopher Feb 2016 #7
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #8
K&R quantumjunkie Feb 2016 #9
Thank you. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #10
OMG. Time Magazine is STILL lying! mainer Feb 2016 #13
This will not be good for a former nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #17
I have a funny feeling that we are only entering the grade school level of politics. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #45
I fear we are entering Kgrades nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #47
There is one thing though, they are still operating with the pre internet mindset trying LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #62
There is something to that nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #64
Yep, and a lot of other things that were just forgotten about in search the almighty dollar. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #69
Great post. Duppers Feb 2016 #99
Yea, they are only Redditers, they don't count LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #119
Wow! Duppers Feb 2016 #130
You have surely heard the term only Redditers here. When you see that remember the CNN LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #132
I just pictured the scene from Duppers Feb 2016 #138
Like the post: MSNBC: Clinton campaign downplaying South Carolina LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #141
Yep. Duppers Feb 2016 #144
+1 wonderfully stated wavesofeuphoria Feb 2016 #148
Can we remove Time and WaPo from the list of Downwinder Feb 2016 #105
I'll 2nd that. nt Duppers Feb 2016 #134
I will third it pennylane100 Feb 2016 #157
I Concur.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #170
They are still _freaked_out_ by the Internet cprise Feb 2016 #174
Rich and powerful people are often very very stupid.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #60
That is why they hire advisers. Unfortunately they generally only hire yes people. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #66
I would have told him to hire a Democrat. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #74
He was a Democrat, this is Arkansas, this is where Bill & Hill learned politics. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #76
That's a surprise.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #82
Politics aside, he just wanted someone who would not be afraid for giving an honest answer to his LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #87
I doubt that questioning authority is exclusive to Yankees. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #96
Of course, times have changed in Arkansas Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #186
WTH?? I'm going to start drinking already.. LOL... K Gardner Feb 2016 #19
LOL I was just thinking the same thing. Big glass o' red wine... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #48
Me too, and just ordered pizza, LOL ! GMTA ! K Gardner Feb 2016 #94
It's cold (which I love) and I'm feeling totally lazy today... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #103
Yes red wine with pepperoni, the perfect match. I am drinking a dry martini which goes perfectly rhett o rick Feb 2016 #166
Mmm, dry martini. Haven't had one of those in a while! (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2016 #168
me2 and I don't drink 840high Feb 2016 #53
OMG.... Punkingal Feb 2016 #21
TIME RAG! Remembering Joan Baez's parody on Time Magazine MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #29
like that disco groove - she came along a decade too soon 6chars Feb 2016 #42
This gives Baez the "first wrapper" status, in my book! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #86
There is no dispute about the photo, Time! blackspade Feb 2016 #44
He could sue, right? Duppers Feb 2016 #92
Further proof of Time's 1% status. senz Feb 2016 #124
We will absolutely not let Bernie be swift-boated. Feel the Bern!! Live and Learn Feb 2016 #14
Thank you, now maybe we can force HRC to actually address the issues casperthegm Feb 2016 #15
K&R! MelissaB Feb 2016 #20
You are welcome !! n/t K Gardner Feb 2016 #34
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #22
K and R Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #23
Can we make one of those bernie photos into an avatar? Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #24
I'm thinking of using it as my Facebook profile pic ! K Gardner Feb 2016 #26
Awesome, how would it work for DU? Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #31
Not sure. I'm still stuck in year 2000 tech-wise !!! n/t K Gardner Feb 2016 #33
You have to be a star member Oilwellian Feb 2016 #117
dang I used to be...should be again...I think I stopped when I couldnt understand Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #164
K&R TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #25
Thank you azurnoir Feb 2016 #27
Hey revisionist historians! Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #28
Correcting the record UglyGreed Feb 2016 #30
Thank You For Sharing This Auspicious News cantbeserious Feb 2016 #32
+++++++ Happy to do it +++++ K Gardner Feb 2016 #39
Great. So, who is Sally Cook? dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #37
Well, that is the next mystery to be unraveled.. K Gardner Feb 2016 #41
This evidently came about from an interview on Maddow.. K Gardner Feb 2016 #46
Here is a quote from Sally Cook in another article.. K Gardner Feb 2016 #51
Yes, I've read that dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #52
If Sally Cook turns out to be connected to Brock enigmatic Feb 2016 #61
Sally Cook/Linked In/Martindale Info Divernan Feb 2016 #67
Nice work! dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #77
GOOD JOB !! nt K Gardner Feb 2016 #95
Check out this piece she wrote for a Univ of Chicago reunion stranger81 Feb 2016 #155
Thanks dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #169
What's funny is what they have to try and throw at him Matariki Feb 2016 #38
Itt makes me more deterrmined 840high Feb 2016 #56
Yes, exactly. Me too. Matariki Feb 2016 #58
They are trying to erase his long history of fighting for civil rights, in order to reinforce tblue37 Feb 2016 #112
^^^ This ^^^ senz Feb 2016 #126
Where are those that were pushing the lie about it not being Bernie? libtodeath Feb 2016 #40
*crickets* K Gardner Feb 2016 #43
It's the weekend nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #50
Very insightful,and a long one too so probably will be very quiet until Tuesday. libtodeath Feb 2016 #70
LOL! senz Feb 2016 #127
I'm sure Skinner must be so relieved to have this resolved! Divernan Feb 2016 #71
+1,000,000 ... Trajan Feb 2016 #118
That would be the classy thing for him to do. Divernan Feb 2016 #128
On my ignore list corkhead Feb 2016 #190
Rec & Kick. MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #49
they're blowing through cash and THIS is what they come up with? MisterP Feb 2016 #54
That is great. Thanks for posting. And cali Feb 2016 #55
MORE on Lyon's blog! mainer Feb 2016 #57
Holy crap! Ino Feb 2016 #84
OMG !! Unbelievable !! K Gardner Feb 2016 #129
Jonathan Capehart sounds like he is in hot water at WaPo JimDandy Feb 2016 #153
Darn....Guess Our Tweet -- RT'ed A Bit... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #172
This Capehard needs to be terminated immediately LittleBlue Feb 2016 #185
K&R me b zola Feb 2016 #59
Paging Skinner! (And all the rest of the HRC supporters!) Arazi Feb 2016 #63
It's the weekend nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #65
I sure do. Duppers Feb 2016 #113
And that is how the game is played nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #115
They're reading EVERY word of this thread, licking their wounds. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #143
The swarm tells me you are correc nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #145
It gives them a reason to accuse others of demanding deference to Sanders. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #149
One alerted and alerted and alerted nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #150
Ha. I must have missed that. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #151
Locked me out of my own thread nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #154
There are ALL sorts of agendas, but I think most post in good faith. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #158
KnR SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #68
Thanx for posting and now the next question who coordinated this smear campaign? Botany Feb 2016 #72
Yes. This was clearly coordinated slime. It was in Time DirkGently Feb 2016 #101
Extremely well coordinated! Botany Feb 2016 #133
Sanders confirmed it was him at 8:30 this morning...still crickets Arazi Feb 2016 #73
Lyon describes his conversation with Capehart mainer Feb 2016 #75
Half an hour does not take 12 plus to transcribe nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #81
That's pretty damning. Just beyond unethical. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #83
OMG! Capehart is creepier than I thought! jillan Feb 2016 #85
Capehart's Tweets so far TubbersUK Feb 2016 #78
Lyon has already described Capehart's "interview" mainer Feb 2016 #80
Interesting TubbersUK Feb 2016 #90
Are you freaking kidding me??!! Outrageous !! K Gardner Feb 2016 #97
Better questions for Capehart... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #102
Yes, yes, yes! Twitter users, start asking! SoapBox Feb 2016 #125
Tune In Tomorrow For The Next Exciting Episode Of: A Shillary For Hilllary-on Political Hack Theatre AzDar Feb 2016 #89
LOL - he's very dramatic isn't he TubbersUK Feb 2016 #93
Capehart is a nut Kalidurga Feb 2016 #109
That's it. Rappaport's former wife wanted that to be a piicture of him. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #159
Sally Cook, a classmate, petitioned K Gardner Feb 2016 #160
I am glad!!! kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #79
K&R! Duval Feb 2016 #88
But the MSM has already deemed Bernie a LIAR about his integration activities during valerief Feb 2016 #91
Nah, we're getting the word out ! It's a different place/time ! K Gardner Feb 2016 #98
Won't work with young people. TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #104
Correct. But it will work with older people, the ones who always vote. nt valerief Feb 2016 #106
Kick...rec. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #100
The phonies behind this smear should be shamed!!! wolfie001 Feb 2016 #107
I don't think these people are capable of expressing Duppers Feb 2016 #122
awesome, thanks for posting Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #110
I think you should post this LWolf Feb 2016 #114
Sorry, Hillary supporters -- this is not at all like that time your candidate claimed . . . markpkessinger Feb 2016 #116
YES!!! passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #120
K & R for truth. Duppers Feb 2016 #123
When does Washington Post and Time and Capehart retract their story and apologize? EndElectoral Feb 2016 #131
I sent a tweet to Rachel Maddow, hoping she might K Gardner Feb 2016 #135
K & R senz Feb 2016 #136
Not until after the Sunday talk shows I'm thinking. They will try to hide it like a Friday newsdump. Ford_Prefect Feb 2016 #137
Lets keep it kicked. senz Feb 2016 #139
Hey! This made it to the Greatest Threads! senz Feb 2016 #140
... senz Feb 2016 #142
Excellent work K Gardner. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #147
I didn't do anything but chime in, the K Gardner Feb 2016 #161
Well there it is now. Yes indeed. eom saltpoint Feb 2016 #152
I predict that Capehart will admit that the photo is Sanders. Vattel Feb 2016 #156
NOT GOOD ENOUGH BERNIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #162
Sorry???? Jopin Klobe Feb 2016 #163
They had no choice; it IS Bernie amborin Feb 2016 #165
Ooops. Nevermind. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #167
Kickitty. senz Feb 2016 #171
Kickitty Kurovski Feb 2016 #175
Repost from a dying thread: I did this compare Jarqui Feb 2016 #173
K & R historylovr Feb 2016 #177
Good! Now we can put this lie to rest. d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #179
You just did... geologic Feb 2016 #180
A lot of Hillary supporters just got depressed nt. quantumjunkie Feb 2016 #181
Great when the truth wins out, when high principle wins out, but notice YOU GOT TO STAND UP! highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #183
Kick and R BeanMusical Feb 2016 #184
K&R. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #187
Foto-birfers - will they step up to apologize? Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #188
#RetractCapehart is the tag being used K Gardner Feb 2016 #189

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
36. Yes "we" can.. LOL.. it was SURELY internet driven..
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:33 PM
Feb 2016

we'd be looking at that defamation the entire campaign if his supporters had not stepped up and stepped in !

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
121. And yes we can
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:17 PM
Feb 2016

stand behind Bernie to force our government to be more responsive to us and to fix the problems Bernie has been fighting for from the beginning of his service to mankind.

YES WE CAN. Don't ever let anyone tell you it can't be done because "pragmatism".

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
108. Yes. One nasty political smear down. How many left to go?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

I hope the person who altered the university records will be prosecuted.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
146. Prosecuted for what? The University just needs to put a process in place
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

with strong rules and strict procedures to follow before changes can be made to items in their archival holdings. Am surprised at how easy it was for this to happen with what sounds like minimal or no oversight of the process.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
176. We need to MAKE SURE that everyone sees & hears this!!!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:22 AM
Feb 2016

I pay A LOT of attention to politics and if I were not on DU "right now" and reading "this post" I wouldn't have heard all the smears had been refuted!

I honestly think this info needs to be reposted EVERY DAY for a few weeks here on DU, and mentioned on every talk radio show we can get onto, until the MSM reports it and at least most of those who are politically aware knows it.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
178. I think you're right. Since the MSM won't do its job, we are now the media.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:43 AM
Feb 2016

Everywhere we go, we must get the truth out. Even if it's a little tiresome at times.

In a small but very real way, we're actually making a difference.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
182. Great when the truth wins out, when high principle wins out, but notice YOU GOT TO STAND UP!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 03:25 AM
Feb 2016

My name here is "highprincipleswork", because I know that "high principles" do work. They work the best, and they win in the end.

But the funny thing about high principles and about what is right and good in the world is that in the midst of so much false doing and false saying and horrible behavior, they only work when WE the people stand up for them.

It's a powerful thing, that they work, and that they work the best, and that they work the longest and in the end. But they require work and they require people standing up for them and repeating them as much as other people repeat all the lies.

This is a seemingly small instance of it, but such a powerful teacher and model.

Thank you people!

demosocialist

(184 posts)
5. K&R
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:06 PM
Feb 2016

Keep posting!

At first I didn't understand the big deal but because of posters like you I have seen the light!

Still waiting for Capeharts response...

From the evidence I have at my disposal this is definitely Bernie Sanders and it seems like it WAS a smear campaign

Thank you I would give you all hearts but im poor

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
35. Thank you for participating and the kind words !
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

I agree it was a big deal, or I wouldn't have gotten so worked up over it !

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
6. It s not 2004 any longer.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:07 PM
Feb 2016

Big media will be shocked it is not working. Expect the closing of the net though. That is my tin foil hat for the day

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
11. Agreed...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:12 PM
Feb 2016

Money in politics is 1A, but net neutrality is 1B. We must stand up for the right of the people to have their voice heard and the right to organize. The Internet plays a critical role.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
13. OMG. Time Magazine is STILL lying!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

Here's their recent "correction", which has another falsehood:

Update: On Feb. 11, 2016, Danny Lyon, the photographer who took the pictures of the sit-in posted photographs of Sanders at the same event. The rediscovered photos show Sanders seated and facing the camera, wearing a rough, dark sweater and a white shirt, similar to the activist in the disputed photo. Lyon said all the photos are in the same series, leading him to conclude that Sanders is the man in question.

“Because of the outtakes, the pictures taken before the next picture, I deduced that it was him,” Lyon said. “Did these guys switch sweaters or something? It’s Bernie.” Lyon does not remember taking the photo.


http://time.com/4108379/bernie-sanders-photo-civil-rights/



Here's Danny Lyon's response (on his blogsite):

dektol says:
February 13, 2016 at 8:34 am
This is Danny Lyon. Of course “I remember taking the photos”! That is not what I said on the phone to the Time reporter.
I went with Bob McNamara, a CORE activist and good friend. It was in a hall way, very crowded, so I stood in the corner. I did not sit. I shot Bernie standing (he was speaking when I got there.) I shot him sitting down. He sits next to McNamara, who is wearing glasses… Then I, standing above them, shoot the three close ups of Bernie, still in his sweater, speaking with his buddies…


https://dektol.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/more-bernie-civil-rights-photos-found/

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
45. I have a funny feeling that we are only entering the grade school level of politics.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:42 PM
Feb 2016

I think looking back we will think of Watergate and Bush v Gore will be thought of as grade school politics.

There is a lot at stake for a lot of very rich and powerful people.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
62. There is one thing though, they are still operating with the pre internet mindset trying
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:56 PM
Feb 2016

to move it to the social networks. Even the news media is not working. It used to be that they could quote from a power person and not worry about it. But now there are so many people able to do searches and refine the data in minutes and catch the power people in their lives before the ink dries.

The power people can live in their bubble and only communicate with yes people, but that is not going to cut it in this new world.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
64. There is something to that
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:58 PM
Feb 2016

Old media also hates new media. Personally I know we are disrupting local media. I have been told this. My inability to ignore certain stories is forcing the big boys to cover them. Such as poverty

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
99. Great post.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:40 PM
Feb 2016

I was thinking the same thing.

Do these editors not have children or grandchildren who use the net and know its power and what the f is going on! How can they live their lives in such a bubble?



LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
119. Yea, they are only Redditers, they don't count
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:13 PM
Feb 2016


Edit to add

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/29/politics/bernie-sanders-reddit/index.html

Updated 3:15 PM ET, Wed July 29, 2015

But times have changed, and with 172 million active monthly users and growing, politicians have taken notice. In 2012, President Obama participated in his first Reddit AMA, short for "Ask Me Anything," where users were allowed to ask the President anything. For example: "What's the recipe for the White House's beer?"

Other politicians followed suit, namely Sanders. Unlike his contenders in the 2016 race, Sanders holds a unique and grassroots following on the site, more than any one else in the 2016 race. According to Reddit spokeswoman Ashley Dawson, Sanders is among the most active on the site, conducting his own Reddit AMA to 8,593,027 subscribers shortly after announcing his run for the presidency, engaging directly with users about his candidacy.

There's also a subreddit called "SandersForPresident" dedicated solely to conversation about Sanders, which has 69,150 readers. Posts include details for Sanders public campaign events, calls to action, volunteer opportunities, discussion threads about the campaign and Sanders. For context, the main subreddit for Hillary Clinton's campaign has 407 readers.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
130. Wow!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:39 PM
Feb 2016

That says a lot re how out of touch the establishment candidate and her machine are.

Thanks, LiberalArkie!

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
132. You have surely heard the term only Redditers here. When you see that remember the CNN
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

article from last year. They have been playing catch up since before Bernie announced, they just did not know it. I equate it with IBM thinking that there would only be a few computers in the world.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
138. I just pictured the scene from
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:01 PM
Feb 2016

Pretty Woman where Julia Roberts walks in the snooty shop that refused her service and holds up her bags full of expensive clothing fr a competitor. Looks at the clerks and says,
"BIG MISTAKE!"

That's what they're doing.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
141. Like the post: MSNBC: Clinton campaign downplaying South Carolina
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

HRC has been playing establishment politics, big business politics, wall street politics. That is everything that this election is about. This election (If HRC had looked ) is a continuation of Occupy Wall Street. People are betting that the world will not even have an economy by November of this year. Just like most of HRC big contributors have a vested interest in the status quo, all of Bernies contributors have a vested interest in ending the status quo.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
174. They are still _freaked_out_ by the Internet
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:08 AM
Feb 2016

Pushing their narratives through repetitive, one-way communication is no longer possible, so every new mass-shooting or bombing immediately prompts press conferences insisting that spying 'backdoors' have to be inserted into PCs and smart phones. Not being able to control the currency of ideas is the thing they most fear now.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
66. That is why they hire advisers. Unfortunately they generally only hire yes people.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:00 PM
Feb 2016

I worked once for a very smart executive that kept interviewing people for a VP job. Me just the resident phone and data guy bumped into him one day in the elevator after a run and said "You have no idea how hard it is to hire someone who doesn't agree with me". He wanted a few people around to bounce opposing ideas off of.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
87. Politics aside, he just wanted someone who would not be afraid for giving an honest answer to his
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:25 PM
Feb 2016

employer instead of agreeing with everything.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
186. Of course, times have changed in Arkansas
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:49 AM
Feb 2016

The Democratic Party that was thriving when Bill was first elected governor is now just a shell of its former self.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
48. LOL I was just thinking the same thing. Big glass o' red wine...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016

and a yummy Jet's pepperoni pizza!

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
103. It's cold (which I love) and I'm feeling totally lazy today...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

after a draining work-week. About to hit the sofa with a pile of This Old House mags and Game of Thrones. Yes, it's that kinda day!

~BWLP&RW

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
166. Yes red wine with pepperoni, the perfect match. I am drinking a dry martini which goes perfectly
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:47 PM
Feb 2016

with my toasted cheese sandwich.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
29. TIME RAG! Remembering Joan Baez's parody on Time Magazine
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:27 PM
Feb 2016

Time Mag Mag...

Ya got me on the Rag Rag...

Take your insults about the Queen...

And shove them up your royal Time-eez Machine!

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
92. He could sue, right?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:36 PM
Feb 2016

At least go to other publications, record the conversations, to get the truth out.

This is freakin outrageous!



casperthegm

(643 posts)
15. Thank you, now maybe we can force HRC to actually address the issues
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:15 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders was right, they are throwing the sink at him, attempting to cast doubts, but we're there to push back every step of the way. It's clear that she can't stand up to him on the issues, like the environment (Keystone), foreign policy (Iraq, and now no-fly zone), campaign finance, Glass Steagall/Wall Street, etc. I don't see arguments about that on this board and the reason is they can't defend HRC's record on the issues...

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
37. Great. So, who is Sally Cook?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:33 PM
Feb 2016

And why did she go to all the trouble to petition the Univeristy of Chicago archives to change the name from Bernie to Rappaport to Sanders, then somehow magically the Times, and Capehart and WaPo, are all over it?

This lie went around the world about a humdred times over the last day or two. It cannot be walked back in any proportional way (well technically it could be, but we all know the MSM won't do that). That's how the game is being played, and it absolutely sucks. They need to fight Bernie on policy, not with lies.

I have no idea how we prevail against this kind of thing. It''s great that the pushback got to the bottom of it, still, I have to think it was "mission accomplished" for the Clintons. Capehart's husband (or live-in, don't know if they're married) is a paid Hillary staffer. This didn't just happen organically.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
41. Well, that is the next mystery to be unraveled..
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

I may try to look into it, but I have a feeling someone, somewhere, is already on it !

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
46. This evidently came about from an interview on Maddow..
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:43 PM
Feb 2016

When four "alumni" saw the pic and decided it was Rappaport

From TIME: Bruce Stark, who was roommates with Rappaport for two years and best man at his first wedding, said he was sure he recognized his friend in the photo. (Stark can be seen seated in the far right of the photo. He is the African-American man with the hair part.) “The way he’s holding the book there and his left hand—that was a Bruce gesture, and the hair,” said Stark, who was well-aquatinted with Sanders and now supports his presidential bid. “My reaction is yes, that looks like Bruce.”

Two other alumni, Sally Cook, class of 1966, and Robin Kaufman, class of 1965, also said they believed the photo showed Rappaport. Since the image does not show the man’s face, the alumni conceded that it was difficult to say for certain the man is not Sanders.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
51. Here is a quote from Sally Cook in another article..
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

. “Even in the ’50s, the U of C was known as a hotbed of radicalism,” remembers Sally Cook, AB’66 (Class of 1965), who entered the College in 1961. “Some of my friends’ parents were shocked that my parents would let me go.”

From U of C Magazine in article about Sanders.
http://mag.uchicago.edu/law-policy-society/political-education

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
52. Yes, I've read that
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

also that Cook is the one who went to the archive to get it changed, which is why I focused on her.

It could all just be an honest mistake, but I'd be surprised, there are large forces at work and the stakes are high.

Bernie's authenticity numbers are a probem for Hillary, so they are doing anything and everything to take them down. Which is pathetic, because Bernie has earned those authenticity numbers, he's probably the most honest and authentic politician I've ever seen.

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
61. If Sally Cook turns out to be connected to Brock
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:56 PM
Feb 2016

and/or Hillary's campaign, it's all over for their campaign but for the shouting.

They will never recover from this in the eyes of the millennials who are on social media. They will spread the truth out far and wide, no matter if the corporate media doesn't.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
67. Sally Cook/Linked In/Martindale Info
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:01 PM
Feb 2016

It'a a common name, but my google search only turned up one attorney by that name who was a University of Chicago alumna, Class of 1966. She's lived and worked in Indianapolis for 43 years. I hope there is at least one uncompromised journalist out there who will contact her and interview her in depth as to who and what motivated her in this deception.

Education

University of Michigan Law School
Juris Doctor (J.D.)
1972

The University of Chicago
Bachelor's Degree, Psychology
1961 – 1966
Experience
retired
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sally-cook-5132b5a0?authType=name&authToken=jPpx


http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/46201-in-sally-cook-4394074.html
Sally Ann Cook
Indianapolis, IN
Licensed for 43 years
961 Woodruff Place East Dr
Indianapolis, IN, 46201-1925
Office (317) 423-9727(fax number)

Admitted to practice in State / Court
Date
Indiana 1972
https://www.lawyer.com/sally-ann-cook.html

Sally A. Cook - Lawyer Profile
Educ. Consultant; State Dept. of Educ.

961 Woodruff Pl. E. Dr.
Indianapolis, Indiana
(Marion Co.)

Experience & Credentials Client/Peer Review Ratings™

Practice Areas Special Education

University University of Chicago, B.A.
Law School University of Michigan, J.D.
Admitted 1972

ISLN 908217593
http://www.martindale.com/Sally-A-Cook/980758-lawyer.htm

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
77. Nice work!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:10 PM
Feb 2016

I Googled for a bit but couldn't find much. Should have tried LinkedIn as you did.

I wonder if Lee Fang at the Intercept would have any interest in getting to the bottom of this?

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
155. Check out this piece she wrote for a Univ of Chicago reunion
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

Wanted to be the first woman SCOTUS justice, said Indianapolis wasn't ready for female lawyers -- this lady is a Hillary supporter. Take it to the bank.

Her piece starts on page 21 (scroll down):

https://alumniweekend.uchicago.edu/sites/default/files/50th%20Reunion%20PreConnect%20'65%20-%20Website%20v1.pdf

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
169. Thanks
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:07 PM
Feb 2016

Nothing damning in there, nor anything I could see to place her in Hillary's sphere of infuence. I still think there likely is something, and we just haven't found it yet.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
38. What's funny is what they have to try and throw at him
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:34 PM
Feb 2016

is SO insignificant and SO non-controversial. Whether a photo is him or not - *gasp and clutches pearls*

tblue37

(65,395 posts)
112. They are trying to erase his long history of fighting for civil rights, in order to reinforce
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Hillary's "firewall" among black voters.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
126. ^^^ This ^^^
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:29 PM
Feb 2016

The Clinton campaign needs the AA vote. Which is also why, in the last debate, she repeatedly accused Bernie of dissing Obama.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
118. +1,000,000 ...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:11 PM
Feb 2016

I've been free riding David's website here, so I need to be gracious and delicate about this subject area ...

But, some one with some prominence here has been promoting this falsehood, or at least allowing this 'incorrect' interpretation by giving that false narrative a sort of administrative sanctioned credibility ..

That person should now make clear that this false narrative is unacceptable here ....

For the record- I love DU and the administrators ... fourteen years running now ...

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
54. they're blowing through cash and THIS is what they come up with?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:49 PM
Feb 2016

making UChicago change a photo caption and thinking they can take a victory lap before it's changed back? did they not think it'd be changed back?

mainer

(12,022 posts)
57. MORE on Lyon's blog!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

He describes conversation with Jonathan Capehart (look at comments section.)


dektol says:
February 13, 2016 at 8:17 am
Correct. This is Danny Lyon — He called me and asked to “record me”, which I agreed to. His main interest seemed to be to ask things like “when did the campaign contact me” (they hadn’t).
His only interest was in the “idea” that there was some kind of conspiracy to either undermine him, or created by
the Sanders campaign. It was a bazaar conversation, that I almost regret having. He recorded me for at least
half an hour. If he was a journalist he would immediately publish the truth, or at least admit
that he spoke with the person that made the pictures, and admit that other pictures now show that this is Bernie Sanders as a young activist.


https://dektol.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/more-bernie-civil-rights-photos-found/

Ino

(3,366 posts)
84. Holy crap!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

Capehart called the photographer looking for something to cover his own ass? Still trying to spin his fable instead of looking for the truth? He should be made to release the recorded interview.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
185. This Capehard needs to be terminated immediately
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:41 AM
Feb 2016

And never work in journalism again. WaPo appears to have egg on its face.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
63. Paging Skinner! (And all the rest of the HRC supporters!)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:57 PM
Feb 2016

This has been up an hour and huh, no HRC supporters to be seen on this thread...



Speaking of inconvenient truths

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
113. I sure do.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:01 PM
Feb 2016

With all the other threads on this subject and even one by Skinner himself, so, yep, hell yes, I do. And I'd bet you do too.

Guess they'll chose to ignore this and let it drop...hoping some other issue will replace these headlines. Perhaps.




SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
143. They're reading EVERY word of this thread, licking their wounds.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

They may not acknowledge the OP, but they're alive and kickin' in other threads, digging up whatever nonsense they can find to attempt to disparage Bernie.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
149. It gives them a reason to accuse others of demanding deference to Sanders.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

Nothing about the Underwoods', er, Clintons' dirty tactics, shoddy journalism, or why John Lewis made his initial carefully crafted statement. They're highly entertaining, especially when they've been bested. Ah, good ol' DU's 90/10. Without we 90, this site wouldn't exist.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
150. One alerted and alerted and alerted
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

until he got hides, becuase I would not play his game... never mind the statement he demanded was posted for him, and was linked to.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
151. Ha. I must have missed that.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:46 PM
Feb 2016

I've served on a couple of goofy juries lately, one recent 0-7, so that alerter is on time-out for a while.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
154. Locked me out of my own thread
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:59 PM
Feb 2016

where GASP I used the write up from the title of MSNBC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511222667

There are times I really wonder about people here. And I will leave it at that.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
72. Thanx for posting and now the next question who coordinated this smear campaign?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:04 PM
Feb 2016

Somebody went into the University of Chicago archives and changed Bernie's name,
John Lewis tried to say that Bernie had nothing to do w/the civil rights movement,
Jonathan Capehart pushed the meme, and both Time and CNN tried to sell this
bullshit.

This was orchestrated and carried out by many people at many different levels
so my guess is this was the work of "creative response concepts," of Arlington,
VA because they were the ones behind the swift boat lies and Sam Alito's wife
running in tears because the Dems were so mean to her husband in his SCOTUS's
confirmation hearings (Gloria Borger then of CBS helped to carry the water and
push that lie).

And the next question is if and how was "team clinton" connected to this smear
campaign?

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
101. Yes. This was clearly coordinated slime. It was in Time
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:48 PM
Feb 2016

and the Washington Post. The Capehart guy who wrote the smarmy Op-Ed about "Please stop forwarding this photo of 'Bernie Sanders'" re-tweeted his attack 30-something times yesterday, then retreated saying he was interviewing the widow of the claimed "other guy"it was supposed to be.

The issue they lied about was small, but they sure screamed it loudly and demanded a lot of attention be paid.

It's only right equal attention be paid to who hatched the scheme and why.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
133. Extremely well coordinated!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:52 PM
Feb 2016

My guess it was the work of creative response concepts and if
team Hillary was in on it too then she should drop out of the race
now.

Again, to me at least, this attack seemed to be well put together
at many levels and with coordinated timing too.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
75. Lyon describes his conversation with Capehart
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

I guess Capehart is still trying to figure out a way to spin this.


dektol says:
February 13, 2016 at 8:17 am
Correct. This is Danny Lyon — He called me and asked to “record me”, which I agreed to. His main interest seemed to be to ask things like “when did the campaign contact me” (they hadn’t).
His only interest was in the “idea” that there was some kind of conspiracy to either undermine him, or created by
the Sanders campaign. It was a bazaar conversation, that I almost regret having. He recorded me for at least
half an hour. If he was a journalist he would immediately publish the truth, or at least admit
that he spoke with the person that made the pictures, and admit that other pictures now show that this is Bernie Sanders as a young activist.



https://dektol.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/more-bernie-civil-rights-photos-found/
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
81. Half an hour does not take 12 plus to transcribe
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

Also you can go from the sound and transcribe from story. Capeheart knows he messed up and got caught with his hands in the cookie jar

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
78. Capehart's Tweets so far
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016

Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 6h6 hours ago
This is a story where memory and historical certitude clash.

Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 6h6 hours ago
Where the doubt of a campaign strategist slams up against a university archive.

Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 5h5 hours ago
Where the word of a proud photographer conflicts with the pride of an ex-wife and friends.

Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 5h5 hours ago
Where the youthful Civil-Rights activism of Bernie Sanders and Bruce Rappaport collide.

https://twitter.com/CapehartJ

mainer

(12,022 posts)
80. Lyon has already described Capehart's "interview"
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

Says Capehart recorded the whole thing. Only wanted to know whether Bernie's campaign got him to speak up.

So we know how that "interview" went. Funny how Capehart still hasn't said a thing about it.

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
90. Interesting
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:30 PM
Feb 2016

Sounds like anything he produces is going to be a "he said/she said" piece to cover his arse rather than a straight forward correction.

Hope I'm wrong though.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
102. Better questions for Capehart...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:51 PM
Feb 2016

Did your Hillary-employed boyfriend ask you to do that hit piece? Why didn't you bother checking with the photographer in the first place? He failed Journalism 101.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
125. Yes, yes, yes! Twitter users, start asking!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:25 PM
Feb 2016

WHO put him up to doing this?

Put this weasel non-journalist on the hot seat!

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
89. Tune In Tomorrow For The Next Exciting Episode Of: A Shillary For Hilllary-on Political Hack Theatre
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:27 PM
Feb 2016

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
93. LOL - he's very dramatic isn't he
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:36 PM
Feb 2016

Wonder who he's referring to here?

Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 6h6 hours ago
Where the doubt of a campaign strategist slams up against a university archive.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
109. Capehart is a nut
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

I am working on finding family pictures. And seriously I am happy with the blurriest and messed uppest pictures. And I seriously don't care if they are actually family or not. Now, if it was a situation where I actually knew and loved the person I was looking at a "picture" of I would very much want that to be a picture of them and I am sure I would see what I want to see. So, what I am saying is there is no collision. They want it to be a picture of Bruce so they believe it whether it is or isn't him.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
159. That's it. Rappaport's former wife wanted that to be a piicture of him.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:57 PM
Feb 2016

She identified him in part by the curvature of the spine. I have noticed that Bernie's head and shoulders also form a curve forward although Bernie may not have curvature of the spine. (I don't know whether he does or does not.)

To me, the pictures of Rappaport do not look like that picture of Bernie. Not at all. The hair is quite different, the hair at the brow. There are quite a few differences.

That's a picture of Bernie. The photographer has identified it. The U. of Chicago has corrected the mistaken information.

The author of the erroneous article needs to apologize for the mistake. He should have investigated further.

And we need to know more about why the U. of Chicago's records were changed and who convinced the author of the erroneous article to look into this issue.

Shame on them.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
160. Sally Cook, a classmate, petitioned
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

To have the label changed after this whole mess surfaced last year. It was not changed until last month, strange timing indeed. Same Sally is also quoted in an article about Bernie in university of Chicago magazine

valerief

(53,235 posts)
91. But the MSM has already deemed Bernie a LIAR about his integration activities during
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:35 PM
Feb 2016

his youth, so that's that. Just like Death Panels. And Obama's a Muslim (not that there's anything wrong with that, except it's a religion).

wolfie001

(2,251 posts)
107. The phonies behind this smear should be shamed!!!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

They definitely DO NOT represent the TRUE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!! Bastards!!!

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
114. I think you should post this
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:03 PM
Feb 2016

every damned time some disingenuous, unethical person tries to push photo-gate again, myself.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
116. Sorry, Hillary supporters -- this is not at all like that time your candidate claimed . . .
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:08 PM
Feb 2016

. . . to have dodged snioper fire in Kosovo!

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
135. I sent a tweet to Rachel Maddow, hoping she might
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:58 PM
Feb 2016

step up and do that explaining thing she does.. since it's complicated and the whole thing seemed to arise from Sanders initial interview on her show; or at least thats what the TIME smear says..

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
161. I didn't do anything but chime in, the
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

People who got the other pics and did the comparisons drive this home, but thank you!

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
156. I predict that Capehart will admit that the photo is Sanders.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

If I am wrong I will donate $25 to the Sanders campaign. (If I am right I will also donate $25 to the Sanders campaign.)

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
163. Sorry????
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:19 PM
Feb 2016

Never, NEVER say you're sorry for keeping History truthful ...

... it is of the utmost importance that we constantly fight the lies of the neo-Cons or else we will lose any semblance of our true past ... they want to drown us in the filth of their propaganda ...

... ain't gonna happen ...

... you -- ALL OF US -- keep on ...

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
173. Repost from a dying thread: I did this compare
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:08 AM
Feb 2016

from these two photos, with a guy in the center in front of an opening/doorway




with a picture the Washington Post published of Bruce Rappaport and his wife - the other guy some folks thought was where Bernie is in the disputed picture.



This is the side by side comparison


Do those look like they're the same guy (Bruce Rappaport)?

They do to me.

There could be up to a year difference or more between the photos. Randy Ross, Bruce's wife, joined CORE but wasn't at this event - might have been before her time. Bruce looks a little heavier in the left hand pic but it might be that he put on a little weight in the year before he got married.

I also thought the guy in the pic looked a little nerdy with what appears to be a pen pocket protector in his shirt. My first impression of this photo of Bruce at U of Chicago was he looked nerdy.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
179. Good! Now we can put this lie to rest.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:38 AM
Feb 2016

Someone tell Skinner that its okay to alert on this type of propaganda. Fuck Time Magazine and the Washington Post! They are not the keepers of history. They're businesses who are in the business of sleaze.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
183. Great when the truth wins out, when high principle wins out, but notice YOU GOT TO STAND UP!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 03:28 AM
Feb 2016

My name here is "highprincipleswork", because I know that "high principles" do work. They work the best, and they win in the end.

But the funny thing about high principles and about what is right and good in the world is that in the midst of so much false doing and false saying and horrible behavior, they only work when WE the people stand up for them.

It's a powerful thing, that they work, and that they work the best, and that they work the longest and in the end. But they require work and they require people standing up for them and repeating them as much as other people repeat all the lies.

This is a seemingly small instance of it, but such a powerful teacher and model.

Thank you people!

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
189. #RetractCapehart is the tag being used
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

Today, as the WaPo is still standing behind this hit piece, which now says it is a clash of memories. Time magazine and University of Chicago have both corrected the record. Jonathan Capehart refuses to do so and is still adamant on his Twitter feed. I have never seen anything like this. @CapehartJ

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