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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:35 PM Feb 2016

Sanders Presses Hillary Clinton To Demand DNC Keep Ban On Lobbyist Cash

Hours after last week’s Democratic presidential debate, where candidates criticized money’s influence over politics, word leaked that the Democratic National Committee was overturning President Barack Obama’s ban on accepting campaign cash from lobbyists and political action committees. Now, Sen. Bernie Sanders is calling for the DNC to honor Obama’s policy and reverse its decision — and is demanding Hillary Clinton join him in that stance.

The Vermont lawmaker’s campaign late Friday echoed criticism of the decision by campaign finance watchdog groups. Sanders campaign spokesman Michael Briggs said in a statement: “This an unfortunate step backward. We support the restrictions that President Obama put in place and we hope Secretary Clinton will join us in supporting the president.”

Clinton has increasingly predicated her candidacy on the assertion she is the best prepared to preserve Obama’s policies, and she has suggested Sanders has been insufficiently loyal to the president. However, Clinton so far has been silent on whether Obama’s DNC fundraising policy should be abandoned or honored: Her campaign did not respond to International Business Times’ questions about whether the former secretary of state will join Sanders’ demand for the DNC to preserve the president’s ban on lobbyist campaign cash.

Obama originally announced the ban on the DNC accepting money from lobbyists and political action committees when he became the party’s nominee in 2008. At the time, he declared: “We will not take a dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. We’re going to change how Washington works. They will not fund my party. They will not run our White House. And they will not drown out the voice of the American people when I’m president of the United States of America.”

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http://www.ibtimes.com/bernie-sanders-presses-hillary-clinton-demand-dnc-keep-ban-lobbyist-cash-2306510

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Sanders Presses Hillary Clinton To Demand DNC Keep Ban On Lobbyist Cash (Original Post) cali Feb 2016 OP
She will ignore him because she's cash strapped. JRLeft Feb 2016 #1
Probably, but he (and we) can blow this up, laying bare her hypocrisy cali Feb 2016 #3
At this point I don't want to knock her anymore. JRLeft Feb 2016 #4
Look, if she were to win the primary, the GOP cannot use big money against her. cui bono Feb 2016 #79
I hope he does! And I'll help! eom Duval Feb 2016 #6
The art of the counterpunch. merkins Feb 2016 #72
And extremely desperate. LS_Editor Feb 2016 #21
Which is probably why this sudden DNC change-up is even happeing 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #59
DING DING DING! JRLeft, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Feb 2016 #67
When push comes to shove HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #2
Why push Hillary? DURHAM D Feb 2016 #5
To see if she has the integrity to do what is right. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #7
Take the money and owe the favors--that is the Clinton way emsimon33 Feb 2016 #53
Oh please. Hillary controls the DN. Period. cali Feb 2016 #8
I know that is what you believe sweety but DURHAM D Feb 2016 #9
Whoa... Liberal Jesus Freak Feb 2016 #13
Sexist condescending at that Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #23
Must be one of those Hill's Bros we hear about ... senz Feb 2016 #68
ROFLMAO! Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #90
I was hoping someone would appreciate that. senz Feb 2016 #91
The creativity here Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #92
That's the coolest thing I've heard in ages. senz Feb 2016 #93
Whoa... Liberal Jesus Freak Feb 2016 #14
really. what else is there to say? This lays bare the biggest weakness she has. Let it ride roguevalley Feb 2016 #17
*Berning tire. nt Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #84
Ha! Thanks for the great laugh. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #60
Thank you!!! Liberal Jesus Freak Feb 2016 #63
Are you laughing about the sexist condescension from your fellow Hillary supporter? cui bono Feb 2016 #80
It was not a convenient time to hold ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #85
I'll show you mine if you show me yours. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #87
I have evidence. DWS. The DNC steadfastly refused to consider cali Feb 2016 #27
You ice your cupcakes with shit? DURHAM D Feb 2016 #35
You don't even deserve to clean Cali's shoes, cupcake. pangaia Feb 2016 #42
ok honey DURHAM D Feb 2016 #45
Please note the comma. cali Feb 2016 #58
+1000 BeanMusical Feb 2016 #37
On the money. pangaia Feb 2016 #43
Sweety - yes it's true. 840high Feb 2016 #70
Wow! I thought Hillary supporters didn't like sexism? Sheesh. cui bono Feb 2016 #81
Check out the profile. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #83
wtf? Hosting History of Feminism? cui bono Feb 2016 #86
This is DWS. Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #75
^ Wilms Feb 2016 #10
K&R CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #11
Oh no problem! retrowire Feb 2016 #12
Ha! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #15
Definitely great debate and image material here. Jackilope Feb 2016 #16
D'Oh! navarth Feb 2016 #24
I just imagined her saying: Cut it out! BeanMusical Feb 2016 #30
Cut it out!! .... but leave the check .... (nt) Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #46
+1 BeanMusical Feb 2016 #61
Bwahahaha Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #18
She can't say no to the ban without looking bought. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #19
^ thomservo Feb 2016 #22
Oh, it will come out at the next debate! Helen Borg Feb 2016 #29
Which is why the internet must run with it ... (nt) Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #48
K&R californiabernin Feb 2016 #20
Bernie just recently became a democrat.. fun n serious Feb 2016 #25
Sorry you are wrong, their job is to get Hillary elected. NOT GONNA HAPPEN litlbilly Feb 2016 #32
It's their job.. fun n serious Feb 2016 #44
Then that candidate should be Bernie Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #50
I disagree BUT.. fun n serious Feb 2016 #54
Bernie is running as a democrat and you are dam fucking lucky he is litlbilly Feb 2016 #62
NO You're lucky. fun n serious Feb 2016 #64
As will I, litlbilly Feb 2016 #66
It ain't there job to put their sticky, greedy, corrupt fingers on the scale. cali Feb 2016 #33
I have to say, your post is absolutely the snarkiest thing ever. How do you people sleep at night? litlbilly Feb 2016 #36
It's true... nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #41
Bull. pangaia Feb 2016 #51
You don't think that matters to the super delegates? fun n serious Feb 2016 #56
You still don't get it. pangaia Feb 2016 #57
Well played Bernie!!! Helen Borg Feb 2016 #26
I think HIllary is out of money and her people want to get paid litlbilly Feb 2016 #28
Yup!!! Helen Borg Feb 2016 #31
Kick and R BeanMusical Feb 2016 #34
Personally, I'm in favor of it. It will be very expensive to compete with the GOP money machine... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #38
... geologic Feb 2016 #39
So that's where Hill got her campaign logo! senz Feb 2016 #69
Because we don't want to have another Clinton administration which deregulates (NT) Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #49
Because our President Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #74
thank you. talk about situational ethics noiretextatique Feb 2016 #89
thats not going to happen Mbrow Feb 2016 #40
They should have gone in the other direction Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #47
That the DNC has lifted this ban to accommodate Hillary only reinforces what we all know emsimon33 Feb 2016 #52
Good! Her hypocrisy about "following Obama's legacy" is so transparent nt amborin Feb 2016 #55
Bernie upholds Obama's best ideals. senz Feb 2016 #65
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #71
If the DNC needs more donations abelenkpe Feb 2016 #73
Bernie is brilliant. SamKnause Feb 2016 #76
It really is smart AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #88
k&r quantass Feb 2016 #77
The DLC decision, meant to solely benefit HRC... dchill Feb 2016 #78
WTF HRC PBO? kenn3d Feb 2016 #82

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
79. Look, if she were to win the primary, the GOP cannot use big money against her.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:31 AM
Feb 2016

The only thing that will happen is the people who are already sick of corporate control of our govt will become apathetic.

So we NEED Bernie to get the nomination.

.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
59. Which is probably why this sudden DNC change-up is even happeing
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:58 PM
Feb 2016

in the first place. It gives Hillary a veil of 'respectability' for the corporations to
shovel money her way, without all those unseemly "corporate fund-raising events"
that she's been having to "postpone" recently, under the harsh light of campaign
scrutiny.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
67. DING DING DING! JRLeft, you're our grand prize winner!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:19 PM
Feb 2016

But what about all of Hillary's PAC money?

Besides, Bernie is doing you a favor, Calpurnica -- I mean, Debbie. You, like Ceasar's wife, must be above reproach or people will start thinking you're in the tank for Hillary...


rocktivity


DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
5. Why push Hillary?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

The President is still the head of the party and if he doesn't want the DNC to accept such funds he can ask for and receive DWS's resignation and appoint a replacement that will see to it that the Democrats shoot themselves in both legs.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
23. Sexist condescending at that
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016

Now give Cali her apron back so she can get back to her baking.

Hey Cali, don't forget the pretty red lipstick, cause you know, no man wants to see an unmade face in his kitchen, ruins his appetite.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
92. The creativity here
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:25 PM
Feb 2016

and on Reddit makes me proud. A year ago I was a cynical elitist. I am happy that I have, after many years in the wilderness, returned to being a grateful populist.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
93. That's the coolest thing I've heard in ages.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:02 PM
Feb 2016

Personal transformation, especially of this type, is inspiring. I'm learning that those who don't need to be "special" are, more often than not, the ones I end up admiring the most.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
17. really. what else is there to say? This lays bare the biggest weakness she has. Let it ride
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

bernie did what he could and if she isn't alert enough to see what this looks like after all the hoo-hah with DWS all along then its her burning tire.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
60. Ha! Thanks for the great laugh.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:05 PM
Feb 2016

A bernie supporter complaining about someone being condescending.

That's rich!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
80. Are you laughing about the sexist condescension from your fellow Hillary supporter?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:37 AM
Feb 2016

Why didn't you call them on it? I thought that was a big deal for Hillary supporters? Or are you ad the other poster HillBros?

.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
87. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:55 AM
Feb 2016

You show me any times you've defended sexist, or racist, or homophobic attacks on Hillary supporters, and I'll give that "sweety" comment some attention.

I can produce examples where I've openly disagreed with other Hillary supporters, and/or directly supported Bernie supporter posts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1190344 - Congratulating Bernie's NH victory.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1069192
Here's one of me directly challenging a Hillary supporter using Hypothetical and very unproven logic that attempted to suggest Bernie might run 3rd party.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1047164 One where I was shown that a Hillary supporter had directly called Bernie a racist, and me very openly, and strongly disagreeing with what the Hillary supporter said, and apologizing to Cali because I was wrong.

And, your argument is very straw man. The person I replied to and what they said was the sole source of the laughter. Very disingenuous to attribute it further.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. I have evidence. DWS. The DNC steadfastly refused to consider
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:08 PM
Feb 2016

additional debates. Both O'Malley and Bernie argued for that for months. Hill wants another and the answer is an immediate yes. In addition, DWS is a fervent Hillary supporter. So are other DNC members.

You? You got shit, cupcake

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
75. This is DWS.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:08 AM
Feb 2016
In February 2015, Politico, citing unnamed sources, reported that Wasserman Schultz had lined up supporters in 2013 to portray any decision by Barack Obama to replace her as DNC chair as "anti-woman and anti-Semitic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Wasserman_Schultz



Debbie Downer will stoop low to retain her position.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
12. Oh no problem!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary is Obama's BIGGEST FAN! Of course she'll tell the DNC to reinstate Obama's great legacy!

XD YEAH RIGHT.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
16. Definitely great debate and image material here.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:39 PM
Feb 2016

We KNOW Hillary wants that sweet lobbyist cash. We KNOW how this will turn out and it would be great for Sanders to bring up next debate.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
18. Bwahahaha
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary is the reason Obama's action was overturned just hours after Hillary proclaimed her desire to keep them in place.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
44. It's their job..
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:24 PM
Feb 2016

To do what they can to insure a strong candidate who can beat a republican get the nomination.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
50. Then that candidate should be Bernie
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:29 PM
Feb 2016

because polling says that he beats all republican candidates ... and beats most of them by a higher percentage than Hillary.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
64. NO You're lucky.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:13 PM
Feb 2016

He wouldn't have made it any other way and I suspect that is why he is. I said I would vote for him should he be the nominee. I rather have him than a repuke anyday

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
56. You don't think that matters to the super delegates?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:35 PM
Feb 2016

I think it matters Yuuuge. He was not interested in the D label until recently. I think it matters.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
38. Personally, I'm in favor of it. It will be very expensive to compete with the GOP money machine...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:20 PM
Feb 2016

... why would we intentionally do anything that would put the party at a DISADVANTAGE? All this wailing and moaning and hand-wringing makes absolutely no sense to me.

Deal with it. Let's WIN!!

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
74. Because our President
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:59 PM
Feb 2016

banned it. Because our President assured us this was not how we were going to run our party.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
47. They should have gone in the other direction
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:27 PM
Feb 2016

...and said that not only are lobbyists banned from donating, but also a person buying ticket(s) to an event has to check-a-box pledging not to give a ticket to a lobbyist.

The problem with just banning lobbyists: spouses of lobbyists can buy two tickets to events from joint checking accounts.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
52. That the DNC has lifted this ban to accommodate Hillary only reinforces what we all know
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016

She is a corporate shill who cares nothing for anyone or anything but getting elected. Taking this money will only further alienate a majority of Democrats who want Bernie to be the next president.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
65. Bernie upholds Obama's best ideals.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

There is no way the President would not appreciate this support from Senator Sanders.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
73. If the DNC needs more donations
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:41 PM
Feb 2016

Why don't they support a platform similar to Bernies and encourage more democrats to embrace similar ideas? Clearly individual donors are enthusiastic about single payer, debt free college and getting money out of politics, etc.

dchill

(38,505 posts)
78. The DLC decision, meant to solely benefit HRC...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:30 AM
Feb 2016

is a slap in the face to President Obama and democracy.

kenn3d

(486 posts)
82. WTF HRC PBO?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:48 AM
Feb 2016

I think Bernie and his supporters must hold both pairs of feet to the fire on this.

She supports the President, right?
And it was the President who invoked the rule saying:

“We will not take a dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. We’re going to change how Washington works. They will not fund my party. They will not run our White House. And they will not drown out the voice of the American people when I’m president of the United States of America.”


We should insist they both show the world their true colors. Call them out on social media, sign the petitions, raise our voices and not stop until they respond publicly.
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