2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders Presses Hillary Clinton To Demand DNC Keep Ban On Lobbyist Cash
Hours after last weeks Democratic presidential debate, where candidates criticized moneys influence over politics, word leaked that the Democratic National Committee was overturning President Barack Obamas ban on accepting campaign cash from lobbyists and political action committees. Now, Sen. Bernie Sanders is calling for the DNC to honor Obamas policy and reverse its decision and is demanding Hillary Clinton join him in that stance.
The Vermont lawmakers campaign late Friday echoed criticism of the decision by campaign finance watchdog groups. Sanders campaign spokesman Michael Briggs said in a statement: This an unfortunate step backward. We support the restrictions that President Obama put in place and we hope Secretary Clinton will join us in supporting the president.
Clinton has increasingly predicated her candidacy on the assertion she is the best prepared to preserve Obamas policies, and she has suggested Sanders has been insufficiently loyal to the president. However, Clinton so far has been silent on whether Obamas DNC fundraising policy should be abandoned or honored: Her campaign did not respond to International Business Times questions about whether the former secretary of state will join Sanders demand for the DNC to preserve the presidents ban on lobbyist campaign cash.
Obama originally announced the ban on the DNC accepting money from lobbyists and political action committees when he became the partys nominee in 2008. At the time, he declared: We will not take a dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. Were going to change how Washington works. They will not fund my party. They will not run our White House. And they will not drown out the voice of the American people when Im president of the United States of America.
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http://www.ibtimes.com/bernie-sanders-presses-hillary-clinton-demand-dnc-keep-ban-lobbyist-cash-2306510
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)The SC is on my mind mind.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)The only thing that will happen is the people who are already sick of corporate control of our govt will become apathetic.
So we NEED Bernie to get the nomination.
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Duval
(4,280 posts)merkins
(399 posts)I Like your thinking.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)in the first place. It gives Hillary a veil of 'respectability' for the corporations to
shovel money her way, without all those unseemly "corporate fund-raising events"
that she's been having to "postpone" recently, under the harsh light of campaign
scrutiny.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)But what about all of Hillary's PAC money?
Besides, Bernie is doing you a favor, Calpurnica -- I mean, Debbie. You, like Ceasar's wife, must be above reproach or people will start thinking you're in the tank for Hillary...
rocktivity
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Bernie is the candidate that walks the walk on campaign finance reform.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)The President is still the head of the party and if he doesn't want the DNC to accept such funds he can ask for and receive DWS's resignation and appoint a replacement that will see to it that the Democrats shoot themselves in both legs.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)What do you think she will do?
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)it is just not true.
Liberal Jesus Freak
(1,451 posts)Condescend much
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)Now give Cali her apron back so she can get back to her baking.
Hey Cali, don't forget the pretty red lipstick, cause you know, no man wants to see an unmade face in his kitchen, ruins his appetite.
senz
(11,945 posts)Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)Oh my, check and mate.
senz
(11,945 posts)Thanks, Admiral.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)and on Reddit makes me proud. A year ago I was a cynical elitist. I am happy that I have, after many years in the wilderness, returned to being a grateful populist.
senz
(11,945 posts)Personal transformation, especially of this type, is inspiring. I'm learning that those who don't need to be "special" are, more often than not, the ones I end up admiring the most.
Liberal Jesus Freak
(1,451 posts)Condescend much?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)bernie did what he could and if she isn't alert enough to see what this looks like after all the hoo-hah with DWS all along then its her burning tire.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)A bernie supporter complaining about someone being condescending.
That's rich!
Liberal Jesus Freak
(1,451 posts)You so welcome for the laugh. Hang onto it through the primaries
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Why didn't you call them on it? I thought that was a big deal for Hillary supporters? Or are you ad the other poster HillBros?
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Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)... the Hillary supporter accountable.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)You show me any times you've defended sexist, or racist, or homophobic attacks on Hillary supporters, and I'll give that "sweety" comment some attention.
I can produce examples where I've openly disagreed with other Hillary supporters, and/or directly supported Bernie supporter posts:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1190344 - Congratulating Bernie's NH victory.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1069192
Here's one of me directly challenging a Hillary supporter using Hypothetical and very unproven logic that attempted to suggest Bernie might run 3rd party.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1047164 One where I was shown that a Hillary supporter had directly called Bernie a racist, and me very openly, and strongly disagreeing with what the Hillary supporter said, and apologizing to Cali because I was wrong.
And, your argument is very straw man. The person I replied to and what they said was the sole source of the laughter. Very disingenuous to attribute it further.
cali
(114,904 posts)additional debates. Both O'Malley and Bernie argued for that for months. Hill wants another and the answer is an immediate yes. In addition, DWS is a fervent Hillary supporter. So are other DNC members.
You? You got shit, cupcake
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)That is really weird.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)"sweety"? Really?
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)And not allowed to serve on juries due to their comment? Sheesh.
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Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Wasserman_Schultz
Debbie Downer will stoop low to retain her position.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)Hillary is Obama's BIGGEST FAN! Of course she'll tell the DNC to reinstate Obama's great legacy!
XD YEAH RIGHT.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Jackilope
(819 posts)We KNOW Hillary wants that sweet lobbyist cash. We KNOW how this will turn out and it would be great for Sanders to bring up next debate.
Ya got me there retrowire....I was holding a drink doggone you
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Hillary is the reason Obama's action was overturned just hours after Hillary proclaimed her desire to keep them in place.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Of course the media will bury it.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)californiabernin
(421 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)The DNC's job is to make sure a democrat gets elected.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)To do what they can to insure a strong candidate who can beat a republican get the nomination.
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)because polling says that he beats all republican candidates ... and beats most of them by a higher percentage than Hillary.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Should the nominee be Bernie I will vote for him.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)He wouldn't have made it any other way and I suspect that is why he is. I said I would vote for him should he be the nominee. I rather have him than a repuke anyday
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)You do understand how shallowly infantile that sounds....don't you?
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)I think it matters Yuuuge. He was not interested in the D label until recently. I think it matters.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Come on.....think, think.....
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)She is really cornered...
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)That must be at least one factor!
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... why would we intentionally do anything that would put the party at a DISADVANTAGE? All this wailing and moaning and hand-wringing makes absolutely no sense to me.
Deal with it. Let's WIN!!
senz
(11,945 posts)Not surprising.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)banned it. Because our President assured us this was not how we were going to run our party.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Mbrow
(1,090 posts)but I wish it would.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...and said that not only are lobbyists banned from donating, but also a person buying ticket(s) to an event has to check-a-box pledging not to give a ticket to a lobbyist.
The problem with just banning lobbyists: spouses of lobbyists can buy two tickets to events from joint checking accounts.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)She is a corporate shill who cares nothing for anyone or anything but getting elected. Taking this money will only further alienate a majority of Democrats who want Bernie to be the next president.
amborin
(16,631 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)There is no way the President would not appreciate this support from Senator Sanders.
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, cali.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Why don't they support a platform similar to Bernies and encourage more democrats to embrace similar ideas? Clearly individual donors are enthusiastic about single payer, debt free college and getting money out of politics, etc.
SamKnause
(13,108 posts)I can not wait to see this brought up in the next debate.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I underestimated Bernie. He's got skills.
dchill
(38,505 posts)is a slap in the face to President Obama and democracy.
kenn3d
(486 posts)I think Bernie and his supporters must hold both pairs of feet to the fire on this.
She supports the President, right?
And it was the President who invoked the rule saying:
We should insist they both show the world their true colors. Call them out on social media, sign the petitions, raise our voices and not stop until they respond publicly.