2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWith Scalia's death, I hope this puts the 2016 primaries into perspective
I stopped reading DU several months ago because of the vitriol. I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter, but I like Bernie Sanders and I will fight like hell to get him elected if he is the nominee. The discussions here had become so overwhelmingly nasty though that reading them tended to dampen my enthusiasm for this election. Mind you, I've always been more of a reader and less of a poster, because I really enjoyed the conversations here until the primary season started. I guess I'm sort of a Clarence Thomas at DU.
But I hope that now, with the United States Supreme Court in the balance, and it with it now abundantly clear that, if we win the election, we will finally have the chance to overturn Citizen's United, restore voting rights, and ensure that gay rights and women's rights are protected, we can finally put away the infighting and stop attacking our candidates and focus on what matters: Electing a Democrat. Both of our candidates have made it clear that any Supreme Court nominee of theirs must be prepared to overturn Citizens United. And that would change everything.
We have the chance to upend the entire system with either one of our candidates. Fight FOR your candidate, but stop fighting against the other. Whoever wins the nomination, we must fight like hell to make sure they win the presidency. Because when that happens, progressives will, for the first time in over half a century, have the upper hand when it comes to the Supreme Court and the system will see a seismic shift.
The games and infighting need to end. Today.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)I will wait patiently for them to "quit it."
ashtonelijah
(340 posts)because of the overwhelming number of awful things I read about her. I would read through post after post and not find a single person supporting her. So instead of jumping into the arguments, I just quit reading.
But I don't think arguing over which supporters are worst is helpful right now. We have got to unite around this common cause, if not just yet around a common candidate.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)This is classic projection.
Almost every thread on DUis about how evil Hillary is. It is ridiculous to say that Hillary supporters do 90% of the attacking here.
When the primary season started, I was undecided. One of the things that I noticed very early on is how nasty the Bernie supporters' attacks on Hillary are. The nastiness coming from the Bernie supporters played a role in me developing severe distrust in Bernie's revolution, and thus played a role in my decision for Hillary.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)90% of the post here are about how evil Hillary is, and how the Clintons are to blame for everything that is wrong in this world
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Quite a few have said flat out they would never vote for HRC; others have said they believe destroying the whole system would be preferable to having HRC because then we could "start over" and "make it better."
Mitch McConnell has already said that he doesn't think a new Justice should be appointed during President Obama's remaining 11 months in office.
This is going to get even uglier than it already is.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)I hope that you keep on participating here.Thank you!
ashtonelijah
(340 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Like, bold policy proposals that will inspire voters to come to the polls, instead of her tired, politics as usual gambit.
ashtonelijah
(340 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Neither is condescendingly insulting Millennials, calling Sanders people "berniebros" and racists, none of it is "helpful".
I'll support her if she's the nominee, and it is because I fear she may be that I want her to run a better campaign. Whatever overpaid beltway waterheads are telling her to rehash this content-free 90s playbook, need to be fired.
ashtonelijah
(340 posts)And stop writing me out of the equation. As a gay millennial who thinks for himself, I resent that more than anything.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)ashtonelijah
(340 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)addressing real issues with specific bold policy proposals instead of the vacuous meaningless bullshit her paid consultants are trying to sling?
Trust me, enabling business as usual in camp Hillary isn't doing any of us any favors.
cali
(114,904 posts)ashtonelijah
(340 posts)Sigh.