2016 Postmortem

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts) Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:49 AM Oct 2012

Does anyone think

there is an unspoken expectation for Biden to hold back and go easy on Ryan, like there was for Palin, due to their age difference, and that Biden is a more experienced debater?

I hope not. There is great opportunity for Biden to expose Ryan's extreme views and lies.

Regarding the debate, no, it wasn't the President's finest hour, but it's no cause for extreme panic. I don't know whether President Obama's performance the other night was deliberate (I doubt it), but he is not the type to make the same mistake twice. I am willing bet the next debate will be much different. All the media outlets fawning over Romney obviously value acting ability over the truth.

He's human; anyone can have a bad day (or night!) He is President, and dealing with a full plate, unlike Romney, who had untold hours to practice how to deliver lies like an uncaged animal with a caffeine problem.

As a former Republican, I can tell you there is nothing they like better than to see panic and hand-wringing and infighting among Dems. Pull together, donate, have each other's backs (and the Presidents!!), GOTV, and let's spend these last weeks making sure the Disastrous Duo doesn't get elected.

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Does anyone think (Original Post) GallopingGhost Oct 2012 OP

Biden must play the attack dog. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #1

Biden will open a can of whop-ass on Lyin' Ryan awake Oct 2012 #2

7.8 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.8 graham4anything Oct 2012 #3

There was a lot of concern that he couldn't attack dog with Palin treestar Oct 2012 #4

She was also dying to slide that lame "Say it ain't so, Joe," GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #5

We know he's a liar treestar Oct 2012 #6

Biden should use the following zinger to expose Ryan's lies TroyD Oct 2012 #7

I don't see him holding back after the last debate. NCLefty Oct 2012 #8

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)

1. Biden must play the attack dog.

Reply to GallopingGhost (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:00 PM

Oct 2012

His job, IMHO, is to lay out the case that Ryan and especially Romney will say or do anything to get elected. Especially in Ryan's case, Biden should explain to the public that he is an extreme conservative, and that Romney especially is a shape shifter.

I think that Obama's team knows this and Biden certainly does also - the big question is, can Biden deliver?

awake

(3,226 posts)

2. Biden will open a can of whop-ass on Lyin' Ryan

Reply to GallopingGhost (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:05 PM

Oct 2012

After the last debate no one will attack Biden for being a bully. He will shove Lyin' Ryan face into the pile Bull shit known as Ryan's medicare plan. He will pull back the curtain on Ryan's plan for vouchers that seniors will have to use to get private Ins. He will gut the belly of the tea-baggers tax plan. Then Biden will tie the whole carcass of Ryan's budget so tightly around Mitt's neck that Romoney will be left hanging from his own lies.

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)

3. 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.8

Reply to GallopingGhost (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:15 PM

Oct 2012

dems should just repeat that

(and don't play the repubs conspiracy theory games, ignore that alltogether.

just say 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.8

treestar

(82,383 posts)

4. There was a lot of concern that he couldn't attack dog with Palin

Reply to GallopingGhost (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 03:16 PM

Oct 2012

I forget how that debate went, but I think he came out very well. Now all I remember is "Can I call you Joe?" and how she was not going to answer the questions but talk directly to the American people. Of course she was such a nut that not much had to be done but let her hang herself.

This may be different but I don't think being younger man helps PLyan that much - Biden can attack him without looking the bully.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)

5. She was also dying to slide that lame "Say it ain't so, Joe,"

Reply to treestar (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 04:10 PM

Oct 2012

line in, which she did.

I love to watch Biden debate; he is funny as hell...but we need some serious knock-out blows. I am unfamiliar with Ryan's debate style, or how much experience he has.