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seafan

(9,387 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:01 PM Feb 2016

No, Madam Secretary. Senator Sanders did not write the Forward to the book, "Buyer's Remorse".

Transcript of Democratic debate, February 11, 2016

CLINTON: But I want to -- I want to follow up on something having to do with leadership, because, you know, today Senator Sanders said that President Obama failed the presidential leadership test. And this is not the first time that he has criticized President Obama. In the past he has called him weak. He has called him a disappointment.

He wrote a forward for a book that basically argued voters should have buyers' remorse when it comes to President Obama's leadership and legacy.



No, Madam Secretary.


Bill Press, the author of the book Buyer's Remorse, very animatedly declared, again, on his radio show this morning, at approximately 8:35 am EST:

1. 'There IS no 'Forward' in my book.'

2. 'Senator Sanders wrote a blurb on the back cover of the book (along with Congressman Keith Ellison and Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor).'

3. 'Sanders' actual quote is:

"Bill Press makes the case why, long after taking the oath of office, the next president of the United States must keep rallying the people who elected him or her on behalf of progressive causes. That is the only way real change will happen. Read this book."


Sanders does not mention Obama.'

----Bill Press


Sanders set the record straight after Clinton's accusation during the debate:

SANDERS: .....this blurb that you talk about, you know what the blurb said? The blurb said that the next president of the United States has got to be aggressive in bringing people into the political process.

That's what I said. That is what I believe.



Perhaps Secretary Clinton is miss-recalling who actually did some notable criticizing:

Hillary Clinton criticizes President Obama’s foreign policy in interview with the Atlantic, August 11, 2014

Former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton has not yet said whether she will pursue the presidency. But for a candidate-in-waiting, she is clearly carving out a foreign policy distinct from the man she used to serve.

In the spring, President Obama articulated a philosophy for avoiding dangerous entanglements overseas that was modest in its ambitions and focused on avoiding mistakes. Don’t do stupid things, he said.

Now Clinton is offering a blunt retort to that approach, telling an interviewer, “Great nations need organizing principles — and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle.”



Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton during a taping of "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart” in July 2014. (Frank Franklin II/AP) via WP



As an aside, reportedly, and for the record, she'd previously decided to run for president at the Oscar de la Renta estate in the Dominican Republic in 2012, while vacationing with the Kissingers.



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No, Madam Secretary. Senator Sanders did not write the Forward to the book, "Buyer's Remorse". (Original Post) seafan Feb 2016 OP
I am sure she is looking into it Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #1
Truth doesn`t matter to her. democrank Feb 2016 #2
she don't need no stinkin' truth tk2kewl Feb 2016 #10
See? You people act like what she said was a lie. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #3
Serial liars gonna lie serially. frylock Feb 2016 #4
"...because, you know,..." Wilms Feb 2016 #5
Are her lips moving? She's lying. cali Feb 2016 #6
+10000 amborin Feb 2016 #9
Bookmarked, proof of Clinton criticizing Obama malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #7
Bill Press needs to come clean and admit Bernie was his ghost writer! DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #8
Except she never said he wrote the forward--she said he wrote a blurb endorsing it frazzled Feb 2016 #11
The OP quotes straight from the debate transcript. Where is the link to your quote? Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #12
Oh I see frazzled Feb 2016 #13
You said the OP is lying. You should apologize. LBJ was challenged before he withdrew. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #15
Agreed. complain jane Feb 2016 #17
Busted! 99Forever Feb 2016 #14
I think the post upthread of yours... malthaussen Feb 2016 #18
Scoundrels Lie Got it Feb 2016 #16
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
1. I am sure she is looking into it
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:09 PM
Feb 2016

On how to issue a correction or retraction. Curious on what the Hillary supporters would say a boutique this lie?

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
3. See? You people act like what she said was a lie.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

It was just a difference of opinion as to what the actual words were, and what they meant.

Sort of like Capehart and that photo.

In a way, Capehart and that photo is sort of a foreshadowing of what is to come. Almost everything is on record now, in private files or YouTube or whatever.

It used to be that a lie would circle the globe before the truth could put on its shoes.

Now, you don't even need shoes. You just have to hit some keys to bring up the truth, and a few more keys to send it all over the planet. Probably out into space at the same time.

You can run but you can't hide. As long as the PTB is unable to shut the Internet down the liars have to sweat.

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
7. Bookmarked, proof of Clinton criticizing Obama
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

I am bookmarking your thread. I knew Clinton was very critical of Obama's foreign policy now I have proof I can link you. Thanks.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
8. Bill Press needs to come clean and admit Bernie was his ghost writer!
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016

Forward? I heard he wrote the whole thing!

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
11. Except she never said he wrote the forward--she said he wrote a blurb endorsing it
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:52 PM
Feb 2016

Which he DID. So it's thls OP that is lying.

In debating about the current president's successes, Hillary Clinton accused Sanders of writing a book blurb critical of the Obama administration, but the dig is only kinda sorta based in truth. ... Sanders did indeed pen an endorsement for a book by Bill Press entitled Buyer's Remorse: How Obama Let Progressives Down.


While it's true that Sanders does not specifically mention Obama per se in that blurb for the book, he does talk about how the president must "keep rallying the people who elected him or her." That's a tacit implication that Obama (the subject of the book) has not done that.

I contest that implication vociferously. Obama has criss-crossed the country trying to rally support for the ACA, for gun control, for his infrastructure spending, etc. He still maintains a massive organization--Organizing for America--that not only has chapters that have organized public actions on behalf of these progressive causes, but that also TRAINS organizers. I still get daily emails from them. And I have attended public action events for both gun control and health care on the organization's behalf.

When you endorse a book with a blurb, you are inherently endorsing the preponderance of what the book says. I know: my husband was recently asked to write a blurb for a book that he really didn't care for. He politely declined to do so, even if it meant his name would appear on the book jacket. There's a MORALITY to that.

So the OP has made--yet another--false premise the subject of an attack post. No one EVER said he wrote the forward.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
12. The OP quotes straight from the debate transcript. Where is the link to your quote?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

Edit because I found it here: http://www.bustle.com/articles/141435-did-bernie-sanders-write-about-obama-hillary-clinton-accuses-him-of-penning-against-president

Which, oddly enough says the exact same thing the OP does. You owe the OP an apology.

... this is not the first time that he has criticized President Obama. In the past he has called him weak. He has called him a disappointment. He wrote a forward for a book that basically argued voters should have buyers' remorse when it comes to President Obama's leadership and legacy.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. Oh I see
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

She may have mistated the word "forward" for jacket blurb in a fast-paced debate. But his writing does definitely, absolutely appear on the book's cover in big, bold print. And sorry, you can't endorse a book on its cover and then say you don't endorse its main idea: how Obama disappointed his constituency.

String the witch up for a word! Burn her in hell! She used the wrong word!

But, of course, pardon Bernie for everything from his staff stealing voter data, passing out illegal flyers, making ads that suggest endorsements that were never made, and having to issue apology after apology for misstatements or misactions. But a word, oh! Let's make a federal case out of it.

The point is that Sanders has INDEED criticized Obama time and again, even calling for a primary against a sitting president--something that is never, EVER done by members of a president's party. But of course, he isn't a member of the president's party. He actually had the gall to call from his perch as an independent for someone to primary the sitting president of another party.

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
18. I think the post upthread of yours...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

... is exactly equatable to all the "apology" that will be made by actual campaign officials.

-- Mal

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