2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLeft-Leaning Economists Question Cost of Bernie Sanders’s Plans
The reviews of some of these economists, especially on Mr. Sanderss health care plans, suggest that Mrs. Clinton could have been too conservative in their debate last week when she said that his agenda in total would increase the size of the federal government by 40 percent. That level would surpass any government expansion since the buildup in World War II.
The increase could exceed 50 percent, some experts suggest, based on an analysis by a respected health economist that Mr. Sanderss single-payer health plan could cost twice what the senator, who represents Vermont, asserts, and on critics belief that his economic assumptions are overly optimistic.
His campaign strongly contests both critiques, defending its numbers and attacking prominent critics as Clinton sympathizers and industry consultants.
http://nytimes.com/2016/02/16/us/politics/left-leaning-economists-question-cost-of-bernie-sanderss-plans.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)that free stuff is not free
and unicorns are expensive as hell if you find one!
AOR
(692 posts)Austan Goolsbee,Jared Bernstein, Kenneth E. Thorpe = left leaning economists
Fuck the New York Times and their narcissistic, establishment hack, errand boy, capitalist bootlicker Paul Krugman.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Here is a rebuttal published in HuffPo by:
David Himmelstein
Professor of Public Health at CUNY and Lecturer in Medicine at Harvard Medical School
Steffie Woolhandler
Professor in the CUNY School of Public Health at Hunter College; Lecturer in Medicine, Harvard Medical School
01/29/2016 01:23 pm ET | Updated Jan 29, 2016
Professor Kenneth Thorpe recently issued an analysis of Senator Bernie Sanders' single-payer national health insurance proposal. Thorpe, an Emory University professor who served in the Clinton administration, claims the single-payer plan would break the bank.
Thorpe's analysis rests on several incorrect, and occasionally outlandish, assumptions. Moreover, it is at odds with analyses of the costs of single-payer programs that he produced in the past, which projected large savings from such reform (see this study, for example, or this one).
We outline below the incorrect assumptions behind Thorpe's current analysis:
1. He incorrectly assumes administrative savings of only 4.7 percent of expenditures, based on projections of administrative savings under Vermont's proposed reform.
More here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-himmelstein/kenneth-thorpe-bernie-sanders-single-payer_b_9113192.html
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)New memes are expensive and wasteful.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)livetohike
(22,163 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)170 American economists signed a letter approving Sanders economic plan.
Economists are overwhelmingly in favor of Sanders plan, but the NY Times never bothered to report it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He is making the country more comfortable with the thought of healthcare as a right. More comfortable with a stronger Fed. That in itself is extremely important. Lets lighten up on Sanders and his thoughts here. He simply doesn't need to be perfectly thought out, and he isn't. That doesn't mean he isn't helping us to a better future by making the citizens more comfortable with these thoughts.
The party is going to benefit from the Sanders campaign in the long run. Once the primary is over and the libertarians, conservatives, anarchists, etc. go back to their handlers, we will be at a great spot moving forward. The rest will stick with us and work toward a more just future.
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ananda
(28,876 posts)... if taxes aren't raise to benefit the greater good, meaning real people
and the public commons.
Stargleamer
(1,990 posts)are those just met with silence??