2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy can't Bill Clinton stop race baiting?
It didn't work well for him in 2008 and it looks terrible here.
http://nypost.com/2016/02/14/bill-clinton-downplays-obama-were-all-mixed-race-people/
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/bill-clinton-says-barack-obama-wasnt-the-uss-first-black-president-because-were-all-mixed-race-people-720759.html
The real question is, does he keep going rouge, or is this some strange strategy by the Hillary Campaign.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)I can't believe this is a strategy.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)He dreads the possibility of Hillary eclipsing him in the history books.
Jackilope
(819 posts)Whatever the case, I find them both sleezy.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)She's just cynically trying to use him with AA voters.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)would like to keep on the down low.
Of course, HRC never fritters away an opportunity to use someone if it can politically benefit herself or her campaign.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)tactics. It's very bizarre to see these proven losers resurrected.
Then again, maybe this Clinton incompetence is a gift.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)They get angry, they flail around, and their true colors begin to show...by that I mean elitism, and a sense of entitlement. No different from George HW Bush, who felt his was his turn in 1988. He had no vision, it was just his turn to maintain the status quo.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)HRC's campaign was actually pretty decent until Bernie started making inroads in Iowa. Then, they started imploding.
That's exactly what happened in 2008.
We had heard that Hillary had "learned so much from 2008" and that things would be different.
No. No you didn't.
I think that they erroneously believe that when they are in a real contest--that they must try to beat the other person down. That rarely is a winning strategy. Usually attacks backfire, and they leave people questioning why they support the attacker. Clinton has some strengths, but they get hidden under the piles of crap that she flings at her opponents.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Time to throw Bill under the bus.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Z_California
(650 posts)The inept campaign team has to be driving him crazy and he knows he is (was) one of the greatest politicians ever so he's probably pretty confident "winging" it.
Please proceed Mr. President.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Some would say the 'almost' could be omitted.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I believe he wants to be the only President Clinton in his lifetime.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)femmedem
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because we share dna. I think he is awkwardly trying to make the point that race is a social construct rather than a scientific fact.
But his statement is an enormous fail, because race isn't so much about dna as it is about about history, culture, privilege.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)When he learned the business in the 70s he had local neighbors like wallace to act as mentors. Southern governors of the dem variety were in transition then . if i could remember the govs of fl la.tx ga tn at the time it would.show.some pretty harsh names to be associated with.that old school dem governance requires going to power to assure them no change will.come.while selling change to the masses effectively getting them to vote against their own interests. These guys were pretty much a bunch of half converted cross burners and they are unfortunately the only practical examples.clinton had in his formative years.
Its not his fault he had bad teachers.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I get that he's trying to communicate the "retired grandpa" thing but it makes him look like he just got up from a nap.