Bernie cannot discuss black prople without talking about poverty
Because black equals poor to some people

He said Sandra Bland would be alive if she was white.
He mentioned that whites do pot just as much as black, but are arrested at only a quarter of the rate.

Remember what got Bernie interested in politics in the first place. It wasn't economics. It was because the government of Germany killed most of his father's family.

You had to insert facts into it?

I get that he gets income inequality but does he understand that it exists between the races in the same positions? It does not seems so.
Does he get redlining? The fact that we were left out of the GI bill for so long? Out of the new deal? Forced into those ghettos while poor whilte got cheap loans? He refuses to even see that part of it. Because h thinks rave issues are nowhere near as important as money. And f that i can get money can i get parity and equality? He's all money no social justice

Your posts about what Bernie Sanders "refuses to see" are a joke.

Because that is his fatal flaw. He cannot be specific to our issues when speakimg to us directly. I see his website. Now how does he discuss racism? If he just keeps going to poor kids and teen unemployment, he will get yelled at again about being afraid to say black. He deflects and pivots from race to poverty. Every. Single. Time.

What he did back then was great but it Does not address any of the issues we face today.

Housing discrimination has been eradicated, so sayeth she so no more complaining the rest of you!

Geez, do you even hear yourself? Its fucking parody. Your fury at Berniebros isn't doing good things for you.

I'm on record saying Sanders has a problem with POC and he needs to work on that. Your "helpful" hints about how he can change that narrative are now just thinly veiled screeds aimed at slashing - its laughably transparent now.

You're on record that nothings going to change your mind anyway about your vote and that you're simply trolling here. Troll away since Skinner obviously is ok with it but don't be surprised when we laugh.

Redlining was not oligarchs! It was regular white folks.
He shifts blame to this big cabal of evil when its the guy next door or the kid who goes in a church and murders black worshipers.

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You keep taking about issues and rarely delve into them or what you would like to see done.

You mention racism, a form of human nature that was shown to exist in infants, noting people who are different. This is a construct that has existed since the dawn of time, when early man had to protect themselves from other clans. The fighting of racism opposes these forces and is difficult to address on a wide institutional manner, as Germany failed when their racists went dormant and underground.



How about it?

Join in on the conversation, instead of complaining that nothing is being done.



From my perspective, education is key to power. Healthcare is key to life. Both indebt people--keeping them down.

Right now, people are scrambling around the floor for the scraps this economy gives them, as major corporations ship their jobs and taxable income offshore, like Disney and Koch. Billion dollar companies redefined their charters to become small businesses, such as Koch, KPMG, Xe, etc. to reap tax breaks that major corps cannot utilize.


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The executive dies not issue legislation, and outreach?

The minority that Clinton has embraced the most is the 1%.

that thread was interesting

She's not interested in having a conversation and answers like this underscore the flamebait

Signing statements?

Or does he have to appeal to a wider audience?

... still be an issue instatutionally

I said He cannot discuss race WITHOUT bring up BLACK POVERTY. Then you jusT go do the exactly the same thing

I guess the U.N. is just as clueless as Bernie, eh? Maybe they should have consulted you first.

I said he cannot discuss race without discussing povert
You are sealioning me like always

I posted about it all day yesterday. Dont sealion me

That's all I'm asking.

But that hardly sums up the complete Sanders.

If you don't want to vote for him then don't, but please stop with the baiting.

Oh please! I will discuss it from a black perspective if i damn well please you know that

Abd so too shall I.

There's no reason he should *avoid* discussion of poverty, which is not an entirely unrelated issue. But if you genuinely want a good overview of his race-related positions, look at:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

I agree with you that his "street corner" remark in the debate was an unfortunate pivot into well-worn territory, implying that race relations are ispo facto improved by providing more jobs for black youth. I see people in other threads fighting you on that, but even though I disagree with you more often than not, I think you have a very good point on this one.

OTOH, I disagree with the implication that that is truly his entire answer when it comes to racial issues. That link I provided shows much more than that... and many of those things listed there are things he mentions quite often.

Yes, he blew that answer in the debate. No, that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a platform on racial issues that goes beyond economics.

The way he discusses it lacks a full understanding

black people. and other disenfranchised groups. it is odd that you find that fact offensive.

stop using race as a cover for black clinton supporters pushing the bernie is racist meme.

Its our poor black fault that race relations suck. You just do exactly what I said he alway does

Mr Fernholz seems to miss that part in his simplistic rush

He said: "So I think that when you give low-income kids, African-American, white, Latino kids"

He was referring to poor kids of every stripe, saying that lifting them out of poverty would do good things for race relations. Or do you think he was saying that all white and latino kids are impoverished as well? That would be an interesting take on it...

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did not disproportionately affect black people. i think sanders knows some black people who are not poor, ergo, i think he knows all black people are not poor. this feels necessary

So when he discusses racism without talking immediately about poverty and billionaires ill change my mind
http://qz.com/615523/bernie-sanders-thinks-racism-billionaire-conspiracy/

Bernie is sounding like an old radical from the 60's who sees everything as being tied to economics.

Minority efforts for greater electoral participation seem to be either discounted or invisible.

President Clinton set me straight on all that.

The Republican caucuses are probably mostly white, but it appears the Democratic caucuses will be pretty diverse. Clinton is just lowering the expectations bar, in order to make excuses for another loss...this one in a diverse group.

the stupidest distortion about Hillary coming from the Bernie camp yet.

said '“still a state that is 80 percent white voters” when that is simply not true. They said it with obvious motive and forgot that it would insult Nevada, by being inaccurate and when they had specifically sought early primary status on the basis of diversity. Harry Reid sounded off about it.
And it is of course enormously ironic for a campaign which is holding rivals to microscopic examination around minority issues and rhetoric botching that particular area of blather. They say these things and it makes their supporters look daft when those supporters have just spent days combing over old photos trying to find Bernie botching a minority message.
It's high comedy and people will enjoy it. Get used to it.

at Bernie over while giving Clinton passes are issues they see as worthy of exploitation, not actual and consistent advocacy. It exposes many, many people as frauds pure and frauds simple. Especially simple.

who is pushing back on it a bit.

Once you're securely in her pocket, you're no longer on her radar.

Now the argument is that she thinks they are invisible. Which is it? It can't be both.