exciting race. Thanks for the info.

don't get posted time and time and time, again.

Listen to ' Democracy Now ' everyday and what I hear both in person and NOT - MSM , doesn't jibe with those Biased charts . Besides deals with BLM , and forming this bond by proxy full of promises, What has she done for AA that Bernie hasn't , or won't ?

Democratic Underground is censoring black men who support Bernie Sanders. All of Hillary's supporters are older, more women, and others that benefit from Clinton patronage. Black men who have been marginalized, imprisoned, and demonized by feminists are not allowed to share our lived experience on Democratic Underground or mainstream media.

And the poster you are responding to is not black. Edit: I see that you were blocked from the AA group. Would be much obliged if you could post the post that got you kicked out.

I know this whole "The AA forum is soooo mean" has taken root with a couple of people here and it's of great comfort to know that the vast majority of the ones running around DU touting this crap have either been blocked with EXCEPTIONALLY good reason or are just flat out full of shit. We don't want them there and they're taking out their anger by racing around claiming that we are "censoring" them but if you notice, most don't even respond to the main ones doing so because they have reputations for being nothing but instigators who contribute very little to DU and even less on minority issues. Why would we want people like that in AA?

So do you want to try your "Democratic Underground is censoring black men who support Sanders" BS again or just abandon it? I'd probably go with the latter if I was you.

these folks keep talking shit.

The AA Forum has been on DU for something like 13 YEARS. It used to be AAIG on DU2. The new forum barely registered a blip from the vast majority of posters on this forum until the MILISECOND it came out that Hillary enjoyed something like 80% black support and then suddenly, we had a target on our backs. Folks came from absolutely nowhere to take a shit in the forum and when they got blocked, started racing around DU claiming that they have been "censored."

We went from 5-6 folks on the block list to over 30 in about two months. And this is somehow OUR fucking fault?

Black lives matter got trashed, the berniesoblack hash tag was created and the AA forum here started getting hit -- all of this started happening all at about the same time. I'm sure all of that is just a fucking coincidence. Yeah.

We always have those. Day after day. I guees we must be too damn blind to see that all of this is because certain people are used to having their ways, and somehow feel that they are our superiors and need to inform us on what's best for ourselves day after day after day after day, but now that I watched that black forum, I know EXACTLY why they feel comfortable doing such interesting and 'coincidental' things in the name of their candidate. He knows whats best for us and will tell us how wrong we are about what our 'real' issues are, they take their cues from somewhere. Just like them. Coincidence.

Did you see 'I SAID BLACK FIFTY TIMES!!' Oh my. Oh I see now. I see why all these coincidences.

that you can't censor the conversation here like you do in AA.

Are you serious? Taunting? I swear this is like the silliest shit I have ever seen and you so are proud of yourself for that. I'd feel stupid but thats just me.

Sanders? Yeah, our 40 member block list is definitely whine worthy! We is just soo CRUEL!

And like you've ever posted in AA and give the first damn about it anyway.

out some of the most odious, obnoxious, ridiculous posters here. Emphasis on SOME because if we were to get real on these folks that chase us around DU, minimize/dismiss and are hostile to the AA perspective, and haunt every move in the AA forum including voting in polls there when they are clearly asked NOT to unless they are regulars, you and I both know there were would be a SHIT LOAD more on our block list.

And we still have cretins whining about the small number of people that we have blocked instead of realizing that clearly they must be the worst of the worse. Damn near every day I see the crocodile tears from DU's "finest" about the AA forum. Getting blocked from the AA forum on a Dem web site should make any "progressive" question what the hell they're doing.

Yes, indeedy . . .

paid by Republican entities to smear Hillary and sow dissension among Democrats. Their diatribes and attacks are much too close in word and tone to the RW attacks we've been seeing for more than 20 years.

I said so in a thread in AA, and I got alerted for it. Thankfully enough people saw that a hide on A SANDERS SUPPORTER COMMENTING ON TROLLS WITHIN HIS OWN FACTION was not hide-worthy.

I'm not " Another young black man kicked out of AA " but I'm honored to be mistaken as such , I'm a person who voted for Barack Obama Twice and criticized him once about the TPP and was banned for a day, I stuck up for Cornel West and was kicked out for good, and that's my story and I'm sticking to it . A pleasure talking with You and hope to Discuss many more topics .

Really? Tell me more.

...Hillary's "imperfect relationship"?

But I'm sure that many will try.

Bernie beat her with millenials, and POC, women, every other demogrqphic.

So, there's that. In an actual vote.

It is not a vote.

But all of them together represented such a small part of the electorate that it is nearly impossible to make any kind of reasonable inferences.

That's a lot of people.

Those voices matter too.

Let's make sure they don't get swamped out by people who want to pretend Bernie has no support from Black people.

But don't worry, there is still time.

There is something in it for 'them'.

Black Millenials may feel there is something 'in it for them' with Clinton.

I'm personally not one of those 'make America better' voters - I've always (1992 first election eligible to vote in) looked out for myself first.

Two groups - good, bad, indifferent - just being out for themselves.

There's nothing wrong with that - especially among the trophy for showing up, self esteem, everyone is special - generation.

hence the results shown in the OP.

guess we should be glad you didn't use shiftless.

While a Black person reposts racist comments by a racist and his post is silenced, but this shit will stand without a blink.

Fine. So I did. My conclusion is based in part on my own personal beliefs. I personally believe Sec. Clinton is a very poor candidate, will perform disastrously in the general election and could permanently divide the Democratic party in the process. Others may disagree, but that's my opinion.

Having stated that, my conclusion to the poll posted in the OP, would be that any group that favored her as a candidate was not fully informed. And if they weren't fully informed, it was because they had not yet bothered to inform themselves.

Your question is based on a false premise similar to "have you stopped beating your wife". "Why" do I believe white millennials are quicker to practice due diligence that black millenials? I don't believe that, so the question is invalid.

Are you trying to get me to say that I think white kids are smarter than black kids? Give it up, I don't believe that and I'm not going to say it.

" My conclusion is based in part on my own personal beliefs..."

Conclusions are based on evidence; simplistic opinions however, are based on 'personal belief'

I was just trying to discover how you arrived at that conclusion.

I have a buddy with an I Q of 170. He has a PhD in freaking Applied Mathematics. He votes straight Libertarian. Go figure.

Do you really have no idea how you come off.

You don't even allow that black millennials have done their research and prefer Clinton.

Everyone doesn't see things the way you do.

Black people .... I draw my conclusions from that

Of response is really insulting.

aren't as intelligent or as informed as the white people - since everyone knows that the views of white people is the correct perspective and anything that diverges from that is automatically suspect.

Scalia's comment was actually less racist than this shit and his comment was WILDLY RACIST

Quite the opposite, but do keep it up. Comments like that just help my candidate.

and don't believe in unicorns and pie in the sky promises.

Or maybe they just don't like being called lazy.

I am glad you said this. It is sometimes difficult to explain to Bernie supporters how their attitude can turn minorities off from supporting their candidate. Now, instead of typing out a long winded post, I can just link to yours. Thank you for saving me time.

Not sure I follow on " read the directions ".

...theres a real good reason to thank this person at the end of your reply thst I am about to use in a couple of minutes

I have a habbit of skipping directions ... so this is a good example of why to read before acting I guess...

Yeah, my reply to them was meant to be sarcastic. I probably should've put a sarcasm tag in there somewhere.

I am very saddened to see something like this posted here .... perhaps "saddened" is not the right word, disgusted is probably more accurate.

Ill just leave it at that.

What the fuck?!

compel ANYONE to say something so racist and offensive but I'm sure given the current climate you feel perfectly entitled to speak like this.

White kids OBVIOUSLY researched more? Really? Ya don't think black kids maybe hear shit like that and decide accordingly? I wouldn't vote for a guy who had his fans running around talking about how my entire race doesn't 'research' candidates as well as perfect whites. You guys are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better at research and stuff that it's perfectly acceptable to basically call an entire race of kids uninformed compared to the kids of your race. What is that called when folks think that their race is just straight up smarter and better than blacks at research and stuff? There has to be a word for that. Paternalism? Condescension? Vainglory? Ego?

then count me out. I'll do my duty and vote, but that's it.

You people are super obnoxious, rude and offensive. At this point, I hope Bernie loses the primaries so that you and all the other BSbros can go back to where you came from!

black millennials are more serious about vetting their candidate than their white couterparts. But don't worry, there is still time!

If you believe anything MSNBC has to say since it became a rethug-lite, 24/7 Donnie Dump campaign ad, you got problems!

As well as the other AA age brackets). Good for her. I'm not a Clinton supporter myself, but she's doing doing a good job here.

K&R!

Of any demographic, the black community seems to be the most hardest hit forgotten group by either party.
Of the 46 million people living in poverty in this country a disproportionate share of them are black.

You have a candidate Bernie Sanders that wants to do something about it.

The share of American children living in poverty has declined slightly since 2010 as the nation’s economy has improved. But the poverty rate has changed little for black children, the group most likely to be living in poverty, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of Census Bureau data.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/14/black-child-poverty-rate-holds-steady-even-as-other-groups-see-declines
Overall, 20% of children in the U.S., or 14.7 million, lived in poverty in 2013 – down from 22%, or 16.3 million, in 2010. (Poverty in 2013 was defined as living in a household with an annual income below $23,624 for a family of four with two related children.) During this period, the poverty rate declined for Hispanic, white and Asian children. Among black children, however, the rate held steady at about 38%. Black children were almost four times as likely as white or Asian children to be living in poverty in 2013, and significantly more likely than Hispanic children."

Looks like you want to educate or lecture someone, i wonder how well that is gonna go over.

Wall St., extend the expiring Bush tax cuts, signed of on bills thst cut millions off of food stamps, spent some something like $1.25 bIllion in bombs that they dropped on ISUS since last June, etc and they have done squat for the middle and poor classes and the black community is the most profoundly affected by it all.

So why don't we vote for more of the same.

As a white person I never, not EVER

TELL

any non white person

ANYTHING

because as a white privileged American male, I have literally no clue at all about their existence and it would be arrogant of me to try and impart my knowledge onto them.

If you cant not only see that but understand why that is so important, then we are wasting our time.

AS A BERNIE supporter, what I do is I tell my friends, Black and otherwise, that I am voting for him without explaining why because that is lecturing, they KNOW WHY and in fact they know way more than you or I do about what matters in their world.

allowed the black community to experience a poverty rate where 38% of its children are living in poverty, with a candidate running on her predecessors policies, has its support ?

the teacher & the AfAm community is the student.

You cant see this, but that is not a surprise.

It is common for non minorities to not see this, I only see it because I was told about it and I decided to shut up and listen, for once.

This is a forum, not a group. People actually get to ask questions here without fear of being censored.

If you were telling them how THEY should vote, that would be lecturing, but explaining your own reasons is completely different.

... Obama's legacy while Sanders affiliates his campaign with people who call Obama "n-word-izzed" and a no name artist named Bigga who calls Obama a master and compares him to Ronald RayGun.

This has been well documented on DU... so someone just now asking seem ... kinda weird

You know what that means.

After all the Sanders wins the Internet threads.

After all the threads and threads about how internet polls don't count Scientific polling and all that just out the window? Complete compromise on the position you held before?

their right. As far as I know about 15% of
dems are AAs.

Prediction before January was that ~ 15%
of dems won't vote, if she is the nominee.

So, go figure!

African Americans make up twelve percent of the population but nearly three out of every ten Democratic primary voters. More importantly, Lyndon Johnson was the last Democrat to win a plurality or majority of the white vote in a presidential election. Without the non-white vote, no Democrat can win a presidential election.




http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/31/democrats-are-heavily-dependent-on-the-black-vote-thats-an-opportunity-for-the-gop/

What is the basis for you believing you know better what is good for a person or group than the person or group themselves?


Thank you in advance.

to go for places like S.C. The "Revolution", so far isn't being bought wholesale by a large amount of people of color. Still. That's the inconvenient point of the thread.

unless, you consider, posting polling results that clearly indicates what is being "claimed" by the supporters of a campaign is not being borne out by the facts, is somehow PPR-worthy.

But I suspect you have good grounding for your "thoughts" ... it seems the majority on DU, these days, seem to want to hear, only, what they want to hear ... everything else is alert, hid, PPR-worthy.

and getting a kick out of the responses.