Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:45 PM Feb 2016

Why Brother Bernie Is Better for Black People Than Sister Hillary (Cornel West)



Why Brother Bernie Is Better for Black People Than Sister Hillary

by Cornel West
PM, Feb. 13, 2016

The future of American democracy depends on our response to the legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr. And that legacy is not just about defending civil rights; it’s also about fighting to fix our rigged economy, which yields grotesque wealth inequality; our narcissistic culture, which unleashes obscene greed; our market-driven media, which thrives on xenophobic entertainment; and our militaristic prowess, which promotes hawkish policies around the world. The fundamental aim of black voters—and any voters with a deep moral concern for our public interest and common good—should be to put a smile on Martin’s face from the grave.

SNIP...

The Clintons’ neoliberal economic policies—principally, the repeal of the Glass-Steagall banking legislation, apparently under the influence of Wall Street’s money—have also hurt King’s cause. The Clinton Machine—celebrated by the centrist wing of the Democratic Party, white and black—did produce economic growth. But it came at the expense of poor people (more hopeless and prison-bound) and working people (also decimated by the Clinton-sponsored North American Free Trade Agreement).

SNIP...

These ties are far from being “old news” or an “artful smear,” as Hillary Clinton recently put it. Rather, they perfectly underscore how it is Sanders, not Clinton, who is building on King’s legacy. Sanders’ specific policies—in support of a $15 minimum wage, a massive federal jobs program with a living wage, free tuition for public college and universities, and Medicare for all—would undeniably lessen black social misery. In addition, he has specifically made the promise, at a Black Lives Matter meeting in Chicago, to significantly shrink mass incarceration and to prioritize fixing the broken criminal justice system, including eliminating all for-profit prisons.

Clinton has made similar promises. But how can we take them seriously when the Ready for Hillary PAC received more than $133,000 from lobbying firms that do work for the GEO Group and Corrections Corporation of America—two major private prison groups whose aim is to expand mass incarceration for profit? It was only after this fact was reported that Clinton pledged to stop accepting campaign donations from such groups. Similarly, without Sanders in the race to challenge her, there’s no question Clinton would otherwise be relatively silent about Wall Street.

The battle now raging in Black America over the Clinton-Sanders election is principally a battle between a declining neoliberal black political and chattering class still on the decaying Clinton bandwagon (and gravy train!) and an emerging populism among black poor, working and middle class people fed up with the Clinton establishment in the Democratic Party. It is easy to use one’s gender identity, as Clinton has, or racial identity, as the Congressional Black Caucus recently did in endorsing her, to hide one’s allegiance to the multi-cultural and multi-gendered Establishment. But a vote for Clinton forecloses the new day for all of us and keeps us captive to the trap of wealth inequality, greed (“everybody else is doing it”), corporate media propaganda and militarism abroad—all of which are detrimental to black America.

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-african-americans-cornel-west-hillary-clinton-213627
16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why Brother Bernie Is Better for Black People Than Sister Hillary (Cornel West) (Original Post) Octafish Feb 2016 OP
Um bravenak Feb 2016 #1
Reminds me of Dr. Frantz Fanon Octafish Feb 2016 #3
This discussion is much older than West or Obama nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #14
Go Dr. West! basselope Feb 2016 #2
Economic Justice as opposed to Just-Us. Octafish Feb 2016 #6
Excellent read as always from Dr. West. Autumn Feb 2016 #4
''Justice is what love looks like in public.'' -- Dr. Cornel West Octafish Feb 2016 #8
Under the back of the bus with you! Ron Green Feb 2016 #5
K-thunka-thunka! Octafish Feb 2016 #9
Of course, it was written by someone who has LONG examined all these issues... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #7
Bernie Sanders & Cornel West: The radical alliance that could change everything Octafish Feb 2016 #10
Kick for Democracy. Octafish Feb 2016 #11
... SidDithers Feb 2016 #12
SidDithers of DU vs. Cornel West Octafish Feb 2016 #15
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #13
I've tried to keep it factual, but darn if some people want to make it personal. Octafish Feb 2016 #16
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. Um
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

'Rockefeller Republican in blackface' is not a good thing to be saying about other african americans. Racialized statements about other blacks gives liscense to non blacks to used those descriptives about us. Perhaps if he were a rapper I'd not think so harshly of him, most rappers do not possess P.H.Ds.
Maybe his star has burned out and his relevance in our community is not what it once was. That's unfortunate,but when one cannot control the words they use, often people choose to no longer listen.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Reminds me of Dr. Frantz Fanon
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:02 PM
Feb 2016


“Negrophobes exist. It is not hatred of the Negro, however, that motivates them; they lack the courage for that, or they have lost it. Hate is not inborn; it has to be constantly cultivated, to be brought into being, in conflict with more or less recognized guilt complexes. Hate demands existence and he who hates has to show his hate in appropriate actions and behavior; in a sense, he has to become hate. That is why Americans have substituted discrimination for lynching. Each to his own side of the street.” ― Frantz Fanon, Black Skin, White Masks
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. This discussion is much older than West or Obama
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:21 PM
Feb 2016

Goes back to at least the early years of the 20th century.

It's just that they don't teach that history to kids anymore. From what I understand this is quite lively as well among many in the community. And when West was here in this town, the HS was up to capacity, with mostly young (some older) AA youth.

So I take the white noise and absolutist statements made by some as white noise best case, or just plain out lies

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Economic Justice as opposed to Just-Us.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:17 PM
Feb 2016

It's a Buy Partisan matter:

After his exit from the US Senate, Phil Gramm found a job at Swiss bank UBS as vice chairman. He later brought on former President Bill Clinton to work in "Wealth Management." What a coincidence, they are the two key figures in repealing Glass-Steagall, since the New Deal the financial regulation that protected the US taxpayer from the Wall Street casino.



It's a Buy-Partisan Who's Who:

SOURCE: http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

Some of why DUers and ALL voters should care about Phil Gramm.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. ''Justice is what love looks like in public.'' -- Dr. Cornel West
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016

Here's how Jeff Sharlet described him:



THE SUPREME LOVE AND REVOLUTIONARY FUNK OF DR. CORNEL WEST, PHILOSOPHER OF THE BLUES

by Jeff Sharlet
(A version of this article first appeared in the May 28, 2009 Rolling Stone.)

Cornel West is a slender man, but he hugs like a sumo wrestler: crouch, grab, wrap and squeeze. “I want to love everybody,” West tells me not long after he greets me at his Princeton University office with a bear hug that is warm and wonderfully conspiratorial. ”Ah, yes, Brother Jeff!” he exclaims, like I’ve arrived just in time for a clandestine mission.

I’d feel special if it weren’t for the fact that there’s hardly a soul on Earth whom West won’t call “Brother” or “Sister.” As we walk around town, West embraces and is fully embraced by a maintenance man, a schoolteacher, a group of street missionaries and a class of fifth-graders visiting from Queens, who recognize him from the cover of his 1993 bestseller, Race Matters, still so popular that it’s sold on the street in some inner-city neighborhoods. West never holds back from anyone who wants a piece of him—whether it’s a blessing or banter, an argument with the great man or simply a hug that lasts too long—but he never gets pinned down, either. He locks eyes and holds hands, asks and answers real questions, and then pirouettes away.

West has been called “perhaps the preeminent black intellectual of our generation” by Harvard’s Henry Louis Gates Jr., himself a candidate for that mantle. It might be more accurate to say that West is the preeminent intellectual of our generation, no qualifiers. No other scholar is as widely read, no other philosopher courted by presidential candidates, no other Ivy League professor referenced not just by other academics but by popular filmmakers (The Matrix trilogy, in which West played a bit role, was inspired in part by his work) and musicians (West has collaborated with Prince, Talib Kweli, and jazz trumpeter Terence Blanchard, among others).

What makes West’s fame even more remarkable is the fact that he’s among the most radical figures in American public life. He stumped for Obama last year but only with the caveat that he would be Obama’s number-one critic the day after the inauguration. He started even sooner. In his book Hope on a Tightrope, published weeks before Obama’s election, West declares, “I’m not an optimist at all. Brother Barack Obama says he has the audacity to hope. I say, ‘Well, what price are you willing to pay?’“

SNIP...

“It’s all about witness, brother,” he tells me one evening in his office, rocking in his chair. “Every person who bears witness has to have the depth of conviction of a martyr. You have to be willing to die. That’s the statement allowing you to live.”

He calls himself “a Martin man,” after King, but not predictably so. His religion is rooted in the angry prophets of the Old Testament and a Christ story as awful as it is redeeming, “the painful laughter of blues notes and the terrifying way of the cross,” he says—a radical Christianity diametrically opposed to the suburban sermons of Rick Warren and Joel Osteen. It’s not a belief in a Christ gladly crucified on Good Friday or risen from his tomb in time for church Easter Sunday, but a faith drawn from a recognition of the despair of the Saturday in between. ”That Saturday,” West tells me, the normal humor of his voice giving way to a growl, “it’s the full-fledged experience of the death of God. Which is spiritual abandonment. By any of the positive powers in the universe.” West rears up and spreads his arms and his fingers wide, his voice suddenly loud and staccato. “That’s Christ on the cross: ‘My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?’” He laughs and shifts into a Richard Pryor voice: “‘Hey man,'” this Jesus says to the Lord, “‘I thought you were coming through!'”

West leans across his desk, peering through big black-framed glasses. “That’s part of the humanity of Jesus. But it’s also part of the Jewishness of Jesus. Because in the Hebrew scriptures, you can’t have the prophetic tradition”—the Martin tradition—“without Ecclesiastes. Y’see, the prophetic goes hand in hand with the comic.” West reads the most existential book of the Bible—”that which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered”—with the bleak humor of the blues.

CONTINUED...

http://killingthebuddha.com/mag/witness/the-supreme-love-and-revolutionary-funk-of-dr-cornel-west-philosopher-of-the-blues/



West is a Buddha. I also think the world of Sharlet, known for his reporting on NAZIs, the Christian Dominionists and The Family impact on the GOP and US politics.


Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. K-thunka-thunka!
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:59 PM
Feb 2016

"If we are serious about remembering (King's) legacy, we will continue the fight for racial justice, economic justice and for a nation in which all people live with dignity. We still have a long way to go," the Vermont senator said.

SOURCE: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/watch-killer-mike-cornel-west-chat-with-bernie-sanders-about-mlks-legacy-20160119

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
7. Of course, it was written by someone who has LONG examined all these issues...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

This is something also worth pointing to...

when it comes to advancing Dr. King’s legacy, a vote for Clinton not only falls far short of the mark; it prevents us from giving new life to King’s legacy. Instead, it is Sanders who has championed that legacy in word and in deed for 50 years. This election is not a mere campaign; it is a crusade to resurrect democracy—King-style—in our time. In 2016, Sanders is the one leading that crusade.


I am SO happy he wrote this!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. Bernie Sanders & Cornel West: The radical alliance that could change everything
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016
As the democratic socialist from Vermont tries to do the impossible, the firebrand academic could help

MATTHEW PULVER
Salon.com, June 24, 2015

Senator Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign is already enjoying success that few could have predicted. Bernie is a big deal. Well, OK, if you’re a white progressive he’s a big deal. Otherwise, you may have no idea who he is, according to reporting this morning in the New York Times. The Times‘ Patrick Healy and Jonathan Martin write that “black voters have shown little interest in [Sanders]” and that “[e]ven his own campaign advisers acknowledge that Mr. Sanders is virtually unknown to many African-Americans, an enormously important Democratic constituency.”

But as his presidential campaign gains altitude and attention, Sanders may be on the way to securing the most difficult black progressive endorsement there is: the blessing of Professor Cornel West, one of America’s leading public intellectuals. Celebrity is rare in American academe, but the eccentric West (along with MIT’s Noam Chomsky) is something of a superstar scholar. He’s our Slavoj Žižek, but with far better hair and a sense of fashion.

SNIP...

West, ever-critical and stubbornly conscientious, was an early skeptic of then-Senator Obama’s campaign in 2007-08, only to sign on to the Obama team and do 65 events for the candidate after a conversation between the two convinced West of Obama’s progressive bona fides. Similarly, West has withheld a ringing and thorough endorsement of Sanders, citing Sanders’ positions on the Israel-Palestine conflict.

“But I also think, in terms of foreign policy, on the one hand we have escalating anti-Jewish hatred around the world, and we’ve got to fight anti-Jewish hatred under all conditions,” West began. “On the other hand, we have a vicious Israeli occupation that needs to be highlighted, because occupations are wrong.”

West continued: “I don’t hear my dear brother Bernie hitting that, and I’m not gonna sell my precious Palestinian brothers and sisters down the river only because of U.S. politics. The truth cuts over and against whatever the political arrangement is. So we’ve got to be able to somehow keep track of anti-Jewish hatred, which is evil, and occupations of whatever sort—in this case, the vicious Israeli occupation that’s evil as well. And I think Bernie might pull back on some of those issues.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/24/bernie_sanders_cornel_west_the_radical_alliance_that_could_change_everything/

Dr. West tells it like it is. Not news to you, MrMickeysMom.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
16. I've tried to keep it factual, but darn if some people want to make it personal.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:30 PM
Feb 2016


Thank you for being the best of both, WillyT!

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Why Brother Bernie Is Bet...