Sec. Of State primarily carries out the policies set by the President. She didn't get to make policy decisions in that position.


FAIL.

If she was VP there would be NO challenger on the Democratic side.

And you totally misunderstood my post by the way but that's to be expected... my point was that I'd say she was offered and refused the VP position if I were you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_vice_presidential_candidate_selection,_2008#Short_list_candidates

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/29/hillary-clinton-obamas-vi_n_115435.html


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"She was never vetted," a Democratic official reported. "She was not asked for a single piece of paper. She and Senator Obama have never had a single conversation about it. How would he know if she'd take it?" ...

"This would be the biggest leap of faith ever," the official said. "She's waiting for the text message like everyone else."

Since you can't provide link then....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/29/hillary-clinton-obamas-vi_n_115435.html


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"She was never vetted," a Democratic official reported. "She was not asked for a single piece of paper. She and Senator Obama have never had a single conversation about it. How would he know if she'd take it?" ...

"This would be the biggest leap of faith ever," the official said. "She's waiting for the text message like everyone else."

...the person you support being challenged. That goes for Sanders supporters as well and I'm a Sanders supporter myself. However, you won't find me throwing mud at Hillary. Whichever candidate gets the nomination needs unity of party behind them.

Does he even have any fellow Dems? Or has he already disowned them all?

And he has been a reliable vote in the Democratic caucus the vast, vast majority of the time. People like Bernie keep the spirit of FDR's economic vision alive in the Democratic party.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/

I don't see how him placing her as SoS goes against his statement. He put her in a place that he felt was fitting for her skill set. He just doesn't see her fit as President.

VP is ceremonial. SOS has power and prestige.

And you keep deflecting. I used your Google. I can't find it. Please provide a link where she was offered it first. Please.

It was a quick 5 minute offer that didn't hit the news cycle. I was there.

I will not take your word on this.

You are lying. Prove it otherwise.

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People were speculating if it would be her or Biden and I believe another candidate. I remember people following Biden around, as he was on the short list like Clinton was. I do not remember her ever being offered the position first. Actually, I remember people saying Biden new he was the pick a few days before it was actually announced and he just kept quiet about it.

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And Kerry is still cleaning up her mess.

Back in the beginning of his presidency, Obama was way too accomodating to "the other sides".

His analysis of Clinton, as untrustworthy and driven by political calculation, was - and still is - SPOT ON.

that appointment.

It may have been a gesture to unify the Democratic Party after a terribly divisive primary.

At any rate, within months after Benghazi and a little after the resignation of Petraeus after the outing of his affair with his biographer, Hillary left the White House team. We also don't really know what was behind that.

I'm not saying that there was anything other than what we do know, but with matters like these, those who know do not share what they know with the likes of us.

May all be simply as it is presented to us and may not be at ll as it is presented to us. We really don't know.

The vice-presidency is mainly a ceremonial role, while the Secretary of State, as we have seen, can have enormous influence overseas.

That she did an abysmal job is beside the point...not referring to Benghazi...but all the wars and dead and maimed and ruined families and towns and entire segments in the ME. She did some good things, but none that outweighed The Hawk that is deeply imbedded in her. That's the "Fail", IMO.

He needs her to continue with the centerism or his "legacy" is in jeopardy. Otherwise he rather dislikes her.

She needs his support to shore up her gaping popularity hole and to help get PoC votes. Otherwise she's still mad he stole her corner office.

even those who don't support her have. But there are so many negatives...and they are really showing up lately.

She just never changes

Obama knew then and knows now.

Have always thought he appointed her SOS to get her out of DC and to give her a consolation prize.

Really?

Again, NO ONE but Sanders' supporters gives a flying fig. Obama and Hillary were opponents in 2008. He is now president, she was his SOS. They have become friends and keep in touch. End of story.

Crazy.......

Indeed.