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Vermonts Black Leaders: We Were Invisible to Bernie Sanders
By David Freedlander
Hes paying attention to the concerns of black America now, as a presidential candidate. Back when he represented Vermont? Not so much, local activists say.
Back in 2006, the Vermont Partnership for Fairness and Diversity, a Brattleboro area civil rights organization hosted a Candidate Night. The race for the open U.S. Senate seat between Bernie Sanders and Richard Tarrant, a Republican and one of the wealthiest people in the state, had grown increasingly acrimonious.
The audience of African-American activists and other Vermonters of color should have been a friendly one for the socialist congressman.
Instead, remembers Curtiss Reed, Jr., the executive director of the group, it became something of a showdown. Sanders was just really dismissive of anything that had to do with race and racism, saying that they didnt have anything to do with the issues of income inequality, Reed told The Daily Beast.
He just always kept coming back to income inequality as a response, as if talking about income inequality would somehow make issues of racism go away.
And since winning that race, Sanders approach toward Reed and his organization has been one of benign neglect, the activist added. We are a major statewide organization. It would stand to reason that you would check in with your major constituents, but voters of color are simply not on his radar.
Read more:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/17/vermont-s-black-leaders-we-were-invisible-to-bernie-sanders.html
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)so he crawled out of Hillary's ass long enough to sling some more shit
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Care to expand on your brilliant retort?
californiabernin
(421 posts)It's quite cynical. It's basically a race to see if she can get the votes in quick enough in early primary states before people figure out the truth of what she is doing, and how they are being played.
bvf
(6,604 posts)against the guy with the weird-sounding name?
Oh, yeah...
riversedge
(70,305 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)David Freedlander has presented a hit piece and it is no surprise. He is a $hill for $hillary.
"Meanwhile, here is a really nice shout-out from David Freedlander to those of us who, one way or another, devote large portions of our days and weeks celebrating and promoting Hillarys hard work. Thank you, David!"
This hit piece attacks the strong record Sanders has supporting all Americans. Do you think People of color are not Americans? Any assertion that Sanders does not have a lifelong history of supporting AA causes is foolishly absurd.
Want more?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I asked if you had an issue with specific parts of the article.
Try again.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)Curtiss has always pushed his examples to extremes to prove his points, even before working at the state level.
As soon as you start
making comparisons to things like the Khmer Rouge and
Hitler to advance your point, it's reasonable to assume
that your worldview is dominated by rigid perceptions of
"good guys" and "bad guys", and that you are more
interested in expressing your general hostility than building
bridges between people and finding solutions to problems.
Having a person with this type of personality on a civil
rights panel undermines its credibility; once Reed made
those statements, he had to go
How did he expect that to be heard? His language,
as GSamson points out, was polarizing.
Being sensitive to others feelings is of course a
cornerstone of civility. Civility applies to everyone,
even people you completely disagree with.
"While Mr Reed was calling for others to think about
how words could be "heard", he used pretty wildly
inflammatory language. How did he expect that to be heard? His language, as GSamson points out, was polarizing."
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)And he proceeded to build an attack article out of that even though he also found another three PoC who support Sanders.
Now I realize that this is Vermont, but a survey of 6 whole people, 3 of whom liked Sanders overall, does not equal
Vermonts Black Leaders: We Were Invisible to Bernie Sanders
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sheshe2
(83,924 posts)Crass
Your post....Your Post.
1. David Freedlander
so he crawled out of Hillary's ass long enough to sling some more shit
he crawled out of Hillary's ass? What a disgusting post. You should be so ashamed that came out of your mouth. Go DU! DEMOCRATS! Or are we on CC now?
I'm going to read more of your post midnight ramblings, they're quite entertaining!
I find it odd that you are so unfamiliar with American sayings though. And no, this is not the Clinton Cave where you will find much worse than what you now claim to find so utterly offensive.
Oh, and odd that someone who would pen the most vile OP ever on DU could find an expression like that so offensive you had to comment on it yet you couldn't find a need to edit/delete your vile and offensive OP.
Not Good Enough, sheshe2!
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)MaeScott
(878 posts)Media surrogates to carry her dirty water.
Tweety
Cape hart
Freelander
And others
californiabernin
(421 posts)...Which is not to say that Sanders does not have his fans among the African-American community in Vermont. Patrick Brown, the executive director of the Greater Burlington Multicultural Resource Center, said that Sanders has been a regular at their annual Diversity Conference...
...I am surprised he has not tapped into me as an African-American person to speak about his record here, Brown said. This is an area he could capitalize more on. We are all so proud of him.
Shela Linton, an African-American supporter of Sanders from Brattleboro, said that the senator deserves credit for his outreach to the black community, especially considering that they are just under two percent of the states population.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)It's despicable really, that they would politicize their own biggest issue just to try score points. But then they're doing it with feminism too. I guess principles don't matter when you have a chosen one.
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vorgan24
(50 posts)It's a admission he has AA support - No one is calling this into question btw - but it's also a admission that he doesn't care enough to tap that support.
Browns statements that Sanders hasn't sought him as a speaker, or that he hasn't bother capitalizing on that area, only give credence to statements that the AA community of Vermont is invisible to him.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)"said that Sanders has been a regular at their annual Diversity Conference". So not invisible.
As to why he hasn't sought Brown out for campaign help, who knows? But I think it's a stretch to try to add that to the so called invisibility claim when he is quite clearly saying the opposite.
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uponit7771
(90,364 posts)SunSeeker
(51,712 posts)Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)is trash-can material. Just like this one.
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)You asked a very good question. I would love to help you find a very good answer.
It is really not that difficult.
Come on let"s explore - right here - together - and show those interested DUers what we can find out about revolutionary leaders and how that relates to Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
We could be very helpful to some people.
Please Please Please
Number23
(24,544 posts)That comment has been made so many times it's damn near part of his platform. It goes a bit towards explaining the dearth of black people, especially elected officials that are supporting him.
But this bit is incredibly interesting:
I didn't know that.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)In fact Vermont is among the states with lowest incarceration rates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_incarceration_rate
Vermont's incarceration rate is 335 per 100,000, less than half the US average of 704 per 100,000.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Nothing about blacks in there...
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)still far too many.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Three whole people!
Number23
(24,544 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)points. It is distinctly possible that Sanders should have and should now be paying more attention the these activists.
However, the article's OTT headline and the way the article frontloaded all three harshly negative attacks on Sanders before mentioning a single Vermont minority activist who had a single kind word for Sanders or Sanders' issues makes this impossible to know. Are these just three folks seeking publicity, trying to help Hillary, and/or looking for venue to grind their personal axes with Sanders? Or do they have a point? Does Sanders really have long history of simply equating economic justice with social justice and completely dismissing the idea the social injustice can and does persist even when economic injustice is ameliorated?
If the answer to the final two questions is yes, how do Sanders' critics feel he could respond better than he has to date to address social justice issues other than by kissing their own personal asses more? And why is Hillary Clinton the more attractive candidate on social justice issues other than her more ready willingness to kiss their own personal asses more? I could not figure any of this out from the article.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)BREAKING NEWS: Intrepid reporter found 6 black leaders in Vermont!
The results mirror those of the PoC in New Hampshire. Basically, 50/50.
Axes to grind
Curtiss Reed, Jr.: Angry at Sanders for not giving his organization its due. Still wants Sanders to come to him for diversity training.
Shaan Mouliert: Angry at Sanders for not supporting reparations and for not taking to initiative to reschedule an event he had to cancel due to weather.
Vaughn Carney: Angry at Sanders for not meeting with him and not doing enough about Vermont's high black incarceration rate.
Like Sanders
Patrick Brown
Shela Linton
Hedged Endorsement
Paij Wadley-Bailey
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Please feel free to email the author.
Thanks.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)I don't believe that Sanders is a racist, or ever came out as such an overt racist as the OP represents.
This is pure Brock.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Surely you have evidence to back up your assertion...
delrem
(9,688 posts)That's just my opinion of such shit.
Have a nice day.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)"It's pure shit."
Thank you for clarifying.
Have a nice day.
delrem
(9,688 posts)How could it not? How could it not be noticed?
Do you really think that a campaign that hires David Brock with superpac money, and coordinates directly with Brock to do millions of dollars of internet only services, can get away with it without comment?
Well, nice meeting you Cali_Democrat, but I have a different opinion.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)What evidence do you have that he's actually the one behind this story?
He's not the author of the article.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)What's next?
Vermont's farmers say that Bernie tips cows over at night?
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)riversedge
(70,305 posts)Response to riversedge (Reply #46)
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lunamagica
(9,967 posts)ecstatic
(32,731 posts)was extremely dismissive (borderline offensive) when it came to any issue other than economic inequality. He was always on Ed Shultz and other MSNBC shows--his point of view was clear.
I really hope that his evolution is sincere and not just a Bullshit act to get votes.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Bernie is tone deaf and runs on one issue only
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
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