The whole country will have them.

Rainbows and Ponies and Unicorns, Oh my!

VERY VERY fascinating

Well made.

This issue is foundational. If we don't have a democracy, then we have NOTHING.

If our elected representatives are beholden to these corrupt, Wall Street special interests (and all of the other powerful special interests) than we have NOTHING.

"We The People" don't have a voice.

So happy that Bernie is rejecting this game that destroys our democracy.

a 100% wholly-owned subsidiary of Wall Street.

She has said she would be hard on them, they took note and pulled 90% of their support shown here by your own post.

It was hurting her chances of winning and thereby benefitting them.

let's just forget about the $150 million she and her husband got from Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and others since 2001.

Money that didn't go into any campaign but straight into their pockets.

How?
By spending the money she raised was to buy one of those big foam hands they sell at sporting events? Do you know how much one of those costs at the stadium? Highway robbery I'm telling you, highway robbery! Once she has one of these foam hands, then she'll really be able to waggle her finger REALLY hard!

2008 vs 2016????

from 2008 and today.

So tell us, what true accomplishments as SOS and senator makes Hillary qualified to have earned your trust?

You know that and you don'rt care. She has more qualifications by a landslide vs Bernie. He has nearly none.

You don't have to write essays.
So please, indulge me...

* Graduated from Yale Law School
* Worked as staff of a U.S. Senate subcommittee
* Staff of the Presidential Impeachment Inquiry Commitee,
advising the U.S. House Judiciary Committee during the Nixon impeachment proceedings.
* Faculty, University of Arkansas Law School
* Part-time chairman of the Legal Services Corporation, appointed by President Carter.
* Member of the Rose Law Firm
* National Law Journal named her twice one of the 100 most powerful lawyers in America
* Co-founded Arkansas Advocates for Children and Family
* Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee
* First Lady of Arkansas for 12 years
* First Lady of the United States of America for 8 years
* Chaired President Clinton's National Task Force on Health Care Reform
* Elected United States Senator from New York; served for eight years
* Served for five years as President Obama's Secretary of State, fourth in line of succession of the Presidency

is what policies she has implemented that has been good for USA and the world.
What policies has she advocated to benefit minorities, immigrants, foreign policies...
Such things.
What you gave what a resume of where she has worked or gone to school to.

It's like anyone having served in the army is a special accomplishment.
I have worked for more than half a dozen American corporations in five countries the last ten years!

So? What did I achieve during those years?
That is what I am asking! For you to give a few examples of what your candidate have done!

What has she done on the battle field in the senate, and in the committees and her corporate ties to benefit the American people?

That is what I am asking. Just to clear the confusion.

One thing is for sure,
Her time as SoS is NOT a time on her resume to brag about.

If anyone fucked up on the job 2 times like she did, they would be sacked. In fact, people who screw up ONCE would land on their arses outside.

Want me to count them up?

Syria!
Libya!

Her tenure as a senator is something I would not shout rah rah for either.

2 unnecessary wars, and the unconstitutional "Patriot" Act would disqualify her.

I am not sure whether Bernie voted for Afghanistan nor not, but if he did, I say he made a less than wise decision to vote for said invasion.
But Hillary? tsk tsk tsk tsk....

HRC's accomplishments as SOC compared to John Kerry's accomplishments as SOC.

Successes under John Kerry's tenure as SOC compared to HRC tenure


John Kerry

Iran Nuclear Deal
Chemical weapons out of Syria
Opening of Cuba
Opened up Israel-Palestine peace talks
(even though the talks failed)
Paris climate deal

Hillary Clinton

0

John Kerry's Failures

0

Hillary Clinton's Failures

Intervention in Libya
Intervention in Syria
Set back & almost destroyed Pakistani
relations over CIA contractor who murdered 2 Pakistani agents in Pakistan
Overthrow of Democratically elected President of Honduras

I especially find the first one you stated very telling.

You just changed my vote.

Wow! She did do a lot in her career!

He served as the mayor of a town for four two-year terms (elected by increasingly large margins four times) and only in 1992 went to the House. He has served in the House and Senate since that time and is the ranking member of the Budget Committee. His work for veterans and for ordinary people, his accompishments in terms of amendments to bills and influencing the direction of deliberations in Congress and in committees is excellent.

Hillary was elected twice to the Senate. That is the sum total of her political resume. She did non-profit work, but lots of people have done that. It does not qualify a person for the White House.

Nor does being the wife of a president. Would you want Laura Bush or Nancy Reagan to be president? First Lady is not the kind of political experience that qualifies a person for the position of the president.

And then there is the problem of Henry Kissinger. I had to read his first book way back in college. I have not liked him since then. Yet Hillary stated in this last debate that her foreign policy adviser is Kissinger. Kissinger has been accused by credible progressives of being a war criminal because of the roles he played in our policies in Viet Nam, Cambodia and Chile just to name a few of the fiascos in which he was involved. Kissinger served in Nixon's administration -- a Republican administration.

So Hillary picks the adviser of a Republican administration known for its brutality and eavesdropping on political opponents as well as its own employees for her top adviser on foreign policy????

How can anyone in their right mind support Hillary Clinton?

I sure can't.

And I have said here many times that I will vote for all Democrats on my ballot in November, but I will NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER vote for Hillary Clinton. I do not even consider her to be a Democrat no matter what she claims.

HRC's accomplishments as SOC compared to John Kerry's accomplishments as SOC.

Successes under John Kerry's tenure as SOC compared to HRC tenure


John Kerry

Iran Nuclear Deal
Chemical weapons out of Syria
Opening of Cuba
Opened up Israel-Palestine peace talks
(even though the talks failed)
Paris climate deal

Hillary Clinton

0

John Kerry's Failures

0

Hillary Clinton's Failures

Intervention in Libya
Intervention in Syria
Set back & almost destroyed Pakistani
relations over CIA contractor who murdered 2 Pakistani agents in Pakistan
Overthrow of Democratically elected President of Honduras

..when I ask for actual achievements rather than a resume over work places...

So why should I as a veteran be endorsing a candidate with the wrap sheet like Hillary's?

This woman will only get more of our countrymen and women killed for nothing other than profit.

Primary voting dates run through mid-june

However, the election is 11 months away and I would expect that IF she becomes the nominee, the $$ spigot will be turned back on.

Let's see what the totals are by November.

Give her time.

....you don't have to keep buying it over and over again. She's purchased already. The rest is just maintenance and up keep.

and the foundation, personal speech fees and superpac money are not included....yet

brutally, blindingly obvious to anyone not wearing blinders or has an IQ higher than a barnacle. This is a surprise?

Half the population can't name the Vice President let alone have enough gumption to read about the candidates. I think that's why Trump is so popular. The nonthinking fools are basing their choice on a television show they've watched.

sadly true, but funny

Just like Romney and Bain.

(this was posted in another thread but seems appropriate here too)



http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511257755#post2

now why do those look just a tad suggestive?

establishment

I *hate* being inside such mislogic--it's like that Newspeak website I once found

fucks face when Bernie take the oath!

go around to people and say "Hi! I'm from the Hillary camp! Support Hillary's fight against evil communism! Give your dollar here! #I'mSeriousMaddie"..

Isn't that one of the CEOs she was supposed to have wag her finger at?

" talked to some rich Wall Street bankers, and one of them an ex Goldman Sachs partner said when Hillary talked to us she told us to tighten our belts because things were going to change for Wall Street, no more banksters".

Just as credible.

no more banksters".


LOL, no it's not. More credible just because you are more likely to believe it.

During his 10 years on the Senate, Bernie Sanders has been a regular presence at luxurious Democratic fundraising retreats, according to more than a half-dozen lobbyists, donors and former Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee staff members with whom he attended the events. Sanders most recently appeared at one last July, shortly after he announced his presidential run....the party committee would wither without its largest donors, including industry lobbyists and wealthy individuals, who are feted at semi-annual DSCC retreats on Martha’s Vineyard and in Palm Beach, Florida, which always feature a large group of Democratic senators who are brought to schmooze with donors. Sanders has been one of the more frequent attendees since entering the Senate in 2007, including two last year, once before and once after he declared his run.

The private events attract around 150 to 200 guests, according to a former DSCC staff member, about half of whom are lobbyists and half are large individual donors. To attend, guests had to donate the federal maximum (currently $33,400 a year) to the DSCC, or raise $100,000.

It was after the meme that, well Bernie is not a Democrat and used to criticize the Democratic Party and also after the meme that Bernie didn't raise money for the Democratic Party.

Bernie, please note, cooperated in raising money for the Democratic Party as a whole from wealthy people. He did not take the bribes that most politicians take from the extremely wealthy. This kind of group fundraising is objectionable, but not nearly as objectionable as Hillary's giving speeches at the big banks and Bill Clinton's renting himself out to a for-profit college and then Hillary criticizing the idea of free tuition at state colleges and universities and other schools.

We are waiting for the next Hillary meme about Bernie's fundraising. The Hillary fans vacillate from pointing to Bernie as not a Democrat to pointing to Bernie as a fundraising shill for the Democratic Party.

What meme will Hillary's campaign pull out of the hat next to try to persuade voters who are concerned about the economy and all the corruption that Bernie is not our guy.

It's getting to be kind of a song and dance routine that we are all watching as Hillary's supporters jump from one absurd and irrelevant chorus against Bernie to another.

Meanwhile other than that she has some sort of experience that we are all a bit hard to identify, we hear no good reason for voting for Hillary rather than Bernie. Oh, there is the argument that she is a woman. But beyond that. She even managed to soil her foreign policy credentials by admitting that Henry Kissinger, accused by some of being a war criminal and not without possible reason, is her foreign policy adviser.

Hillary is making a mess of her campaign. It's just all over the place. The odor of desperation is in the air when it comes to Hillary.

And she is unable to deal with the real problems that are hurting American voters -- the deteriorating environment including poor quality water, a teetering economy, lack of good jobs, trade agreements that hurt our economy, low wages, low Social Security benefits, high student loan and other debt and constant war just to name a few.

Anyway, we already know that Bernie has partied with the rich in order to get donations for the Democratic Party. That doesn't make Hillary's selling herself to the rich and powerful any more endearing. This absurd attempt at negative campaigning against Bernie is not going to win any votes or even any good will for Hillary.

your links are only relevant if they demonstrate that Sanders is SOOOO in bed with Wall St they have a pet name for their, er, pet...

Surely such an insider as Bernie Sanders has his own nick. Damn, according to you he's sucking at the Wall St trough, implication just like Goldman Handcuffs. So yeah, burden on you

You want more? Go get it!

who pigs out on the Double Stuffed, is what people like to do here.

I'm injecting a little reality into the mix.

You don't like it? You can solve that problem with a click.

And that last sentence of yours is called a strawman, and it's a rather clumsy and sad little one, too.

Bernie was asked to fundraise for the Dems and he did so. He received some of those fungible funds for his campaign. All those Brock false equivalency memes were debuked days and weeks ago. But I strongly suspect you already knew that and were merely trying to throw a smoke grenade for your bought-and-paid-for candidate.

Let me ask you a simple question: would a candidate with integrity hire David Brock? Yes or no?

What's reality is what is in those articles.

Sanders is/has engaged in the same (albeit, no doubt less) conduct the he, and many here condemn?

It is you that is "implying" (no, really, saying) that HRC is a Wall Street crony ... because of her conduct(?); while, withholding that label from Sander ... despite his conduct.

Bro

BRILLIANT!



PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Anyone who isn't bothered by this has something wrong with them.

They have given her over $600,000 and think they own her and they don't care who knows it. This is the corrupt culture that we are fighting and some Conservative Democrats are supporting.

We have the highest infant mortality rate of all modern countries. We see 6 infants under a year old die for every 1,000 live births. This should be a disgrace. This is immoral because some put Goldman-Sachs and their profits above these children's lives.

of yesteryear?

(where have I heard that before?? )

Elizabeth Warren