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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:39 PM Feb 2016

The Realtor got Under Hillary's Skin

She got extremely upset at his comment about his disappointment at her statements on marriage equality and how she's flip-flopped for political expediency.

Her anger was palpable and she seemed to really attack the poor guy while she bashed Bernie. Really bad showing and goes to her inability to take reasonable criticism.

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The Realtor got Under Hillary's Skin (Original Post) berni_mccoy Feb 2016 OP
her eyes narrow when someone dares to challenge her. Merryland Feb 2016 #1
Not the sort of behavior I'd care to see in a diplomat. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #4
She was never what I'd call diplomatic. plus5mace Feb 2016 #14
Perhaps, that's why Hillary, as the nation's #1 diplomat, can point to no real accomplishments during her tenure as Sec of State... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #121
But she's a graduate of the Chris Christie Charm School! n/t RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #33
Here's the exchange - she really does end up shouting at him! reformist2 Feb 2016 #70
Hi11ary should get her 'facts' straight chervilant Feb 2016 #76
You're correct. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #110
She said she went after Hedge Funds too, But Wait... 2banon Feb 2016 #135
Not just management, but also ownership. My understanding is that he owns the hedge fund. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #168
that's my memory too, but I don't recall the name of co. 2banon Feb 2016 #175
Just looked it up--Eaglevale Partners. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #176
Chelsea's Father in law did 5 years for Ponzi Scheme Fraud, and it's not an issue? 2banon Feb 2016 #182
Financial crimes committed without a gun seem so un-crimelike, don't they? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #183
Oh the irony. 2banon Feb 2016 #186
this is news to me too questionseverything Feb 2016 #190
This needs to be an OP! Wow eom Arazi Feb 2016 #197
I've been away from du for a time, maybe this story is "old" news here? 2banon Feb 2016 #198
not to mention... if she's so tough and has so much influence tk2kewl Feb 2016 #160
Such a relevant point! chervilant Feb 2016 #174
I am too deaf to hear her words without major enhancement of sound, so for me tblue37 Feb 2016 #78
You are absolutely right LittleGirl Feb 2016 #82
Did you turn off the sound to *watch* her response? If not, please do. It is not a tblue37 Feb 2016 #84
ha ha LittleGirl Feb 2016 #88
I did... peace13 Feb 2016 #131
I did. Scary to even consider 4 years of that. Duval Feb 2016 #170
I did too. Really let's you see her without her confusing rhetoric. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #180
I turned down the sound... just watching her face/body language gave me a new perspective reformist2 Feb 2016 #90
wow, I just watched with sound turned off magical thyme Feb 2016 #159
Jesus...by the end there she almost had the poor guy in tears... Ken Burch Feb 2016 #98
That looked pretty good. Why do women get accused of shouting when men like Trump, Chrstie, don't? Renew Deal Feb 2016 #101
It wasn't the shouting. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #118
It was to the person I responded to Renew Deal Feb 2016 #119
Either way, she was shouting and there is no room for that in civil discourse. peace13 Feb 2016 #134
S T R A W M A N rhett o rick Feb 2016 #128
The person I replied to said "shouting" Renew Deal Feb 2016 #129
Cut it out!!! Helen Borg Feb 2016 #161
I tuned in to the town hall meeting at EXACTLY this moment... TrollBuster9090 Feb 2016 #189
That's one pissed off candidate.......... mrmpa Feb 2016 #193
I remember when she was appntd SoS thinking this will give her exp bjobotts Feb 2016 #196
... Mother Of Four Feb 2016 #202
yes grasswire Feb 2016 #16
Agreed! Where Was The Toddster's Follow Up? CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #63
She doesn't do TOUGH interviews. How DARE one of the unwashed masses question her. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #2
As Bender said at his fake funeral to Fry: Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #44
Not a good look for her. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2016 #3
Hope that goes viral MissDeeds Feb 2016 #29
I tweeted it peacebird Feb 2016 #104
Isn't that what she did when BLM interrupted her? freebrew Feb 2016 #164
She sounded like she was yelling CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #5
She was aggressive at him. I wasn't pleased. n/t vaberella Feb 2016 #12
Challenge her he did! bvar22 Feb 2016 #165
All of us paupers and peons get under her skin... dchill Feb 2016 #6
She is... something else. cali Feb 2016 #7
After that moment I stopped hearing her words and all I could see berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #17
There's too much at stake in her camp Hydra Feb 2016 #71
she looked unhinged in that weird speech after Iowa; manic and unstable; i remember amborin Feb 2016 #94
Of course they are scared SwampG8r Feb 2016 #103
That is how I react to shouting. All I hear is the awful noise. Duval Feb 2016 #172
Perhaps that's why she always reminds me of Cheney Lorien Feb 2016 #25
You got that right farleftlib Feb 2016 #122
Imagine being in that campaign -- eilen Feb 2016 #200
And she is getting irritated now again nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #8
I'm done with her. She was yelling aggressively at the guy. Insulting. vaberella Feb 2016 #9
plus she eyed him again when the next question was being asked berningman Feb 2016 #10
I saw that. Almost stalker scary. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #20
She's just babbling EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #11
Wait - literally she said that? Matariki Feb 2016 #26
Yes EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #30
She's doing her banker pals a favor Matariki Feb 2016 #32
It wasn't even a promise either EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #37
Holy crap Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #38
It is easy to pay off student debt elljay Feb 2016 #48
"Know what they want? Obedient workers..." RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #49
+1! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #62
The Late, Great George Carlin- LiberalElite Feb 2016 #73
great! thanks for that Mbrow Feb 2016 #179
Boy, Carlin just emmadoggy Feb 2016 #188
'ONLY' 15 YEARS OF DEBT? FTS! reformist2 Feb 2016 #67
Man I love your screenname logo. A letter 'B' for Bernie with the arrow pointing Left johnlucas Feb 2016 #178
I'm guilty of not remembering who it came from Matariki Feb 2016 #181
I think the idea was that the arrow stands for Forward not Right johnlucas Feb 2016 #184
Her Logo is the one and only honest msg of her campaign. 2banon Feb 2016 #185
She's horrible. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #177
Bill said 20 Depaysement Feb 2016 #194
MY HERO -- who is that guy? grasswire Feb 2016 #13
And she's dodging the EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #15
She always over reacts to criticism with excessive ugliness Lorien Feb 2016 #18
Yes, and it's a very bad "quality" to see in someone who wants to be a leader. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #24
Indeed. If she gets that flustered with uncommitted voters and Dems Lorien Feb 2016 #27
Men show anger all the time and are NOT penalized for it..fuck this shit whathehell Feb 2016 #52
HRC reacted very poorly. Crying "double standard" won't change that. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #55
Actually, when someone like Christie goes off on a constituent like that, we call it bullying. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #80
Yep. There have been many posts to back that up. n/t demmiblue Feb 2016 #117
no double standard; there's righteous anger and there's this manic, hyper-defensive, panicky outrage amborin Feb 2016 #95
Oh yes, and Hillary just happens to have the "wrong kind"of anger whathehell Feb 2016 #137
Sanders* is perpetually angry and upset, yet the criticism here is always livetohike Feb 2016 #111
There's a difference. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #167
That is not true. eilen Feb 2016 #201
Bullshit! Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #124
Bullshit yourself whathehell Feb 2016 #136
What exactly constitutes "that' rilled"? (sic) Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #138
I'd say you can't answer the question.. whathehell Feb 2016 #140
Calm down and I will. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #142
How am I not "calm"? I'm laughing! whathehell Feb 2016 #147
How do I know she got rilled? Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #152
Yes, I tweeted about this kenn3d Feb 2016 #19
Was kind of an uncomfortable moment as she was obviously tense and animated in response EndElectoral Feb 2016 #21
Heh... quickesst Feb 2016 #22
Are you being sarcastic? ArcticFox Feb 2016 #91
No.... quickesst Feb 2016 #100
“I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.” SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #23
Sure, a person actually called her out on her baloney... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #28
That was horrible... Reason # 472 why Hillary Clinton should NEVER be President. AzDar Feb 2016 #31
Hillary supporters are already attacking him on Twitter. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2016 #34
That's unusal behavior for her nichomachus Feb 2016 #35
Every single time. Tough question, she laughs. Ikonoklast Feb 2016 #56
+1000 not mine, either; not a lot of people's. but hopefully Bernie gets the nomination amborin Feb 2016 #97
The attitude of a person who thinks they are entitled. How dare you?? jalan48 Feb 2016 #36
Yes. Her face 840high Feb 2016 #162
Who would wish they could... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #39
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #40
Apparently the transcripts are a "hard question" for her... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #42
Does Bernie even have transcripts to release? Are we talking hedgehog Feb 2016 #146
I just said on another thread that it was a total Bernie campaign question right out of Bernie's R B Garr Feb 2016 #50
She was afraid of "how far she'll be asked to go" for LGBTQ rights DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #41
It was unbelievable. Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #43
After that, she became quite indignant & became rattled the rest of the time. southerncrone Feb 2016 #45
Women are judged far more harshly than men for anger.. whathehell Feb 2016 #46
thanks for saying that. bettyellen Feb 2016 #58
There is a reason I do not WATCH but listen nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #61
She's human whathehell Feb 2016 #65
Did I say otherwise? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #66
You and her other critics here seem to find her "irritation" whathehell Feb 2016 #72
Nope, just pointed that both were irritated at points nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #85
Being deaf, I can only watch, not listen. Try it that way, Nadin. You will be astonished tblue37 Feb 2016 #83
Why I chose to just listen nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #86
It's not anger - Hillary is arrogant. Avalux Feb 2016 #68
Yeah, that's what Right Wingers call President Obama whathehell Feb 2016 #75
Poor Hillary, ever the victim. frylock Feb 2016 #92
Yup. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #107
Dude I'm a girl, and that's how I see it. So yeah, whatever. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #120
Um, dudette? whathehell Feb 2016 #143
Look in the mirror. You have no right to pass judgement on me. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #144
When Obama was first running for President .. peace13 Feb 2016 #151
But Bernie's anger seems to be directed AT the rigged system, the unfairness, and the oligarchs that tblue37 Feb 2016 #81
Sorry, I disagree in this situation. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #126
Yeah, .'vsgina" whathehell Feb 2016 #139
I don't think Bernie has advocated Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #141
No, he hasn't whathehell Feb 2016 #150
Many of his supporters are what? Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #153
Oh my...Looks like you need to 'calm down' now, lol! whathehell Feb 2016 #157
There's a difference between nichomachus Feb 2016 #130
Bernie's anger is targeted at the 1%,,not someone who asks the wrong hedgehog Feb 2016 #148
I understand & appreciate Bernie's anger whathehell Feb 2016 #149
Don't you think it matters who the anger is directed at? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #169
For those overseas, what townhall, how do I watch it? Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #47
You tube. eom LittleGirl Feb 2016 #87
so what? youceyec Feb 2016 #51
That's what I thought metroins Feb 2016 #54
Bernie never attacked anyone asking a question tonight berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #57
if a woman gets angry she is "unstable" Skittles Feb 2016 #77
She should... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #79
#sexismlives youceyec Feb 2016 #171
Yes... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #199
This message was self-deleted by its author zentrum Feb 2016 #53
Here's the Youtube Link zentrum Feb 2016 #59
Thanks for posting that. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #60
thank you! dana_b Feb 2016 #64
Did you hear her answer zentrum Feb 2016 #69
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #74
Hill was probably annoyed that a Bernie supporter was allowed oasis Feb 2016 #89
And it was such a phony scripted campaign question. That was not a citizen's R B Garr Feb 2016 #93
Smackdown city. oasis Feb 2016 #99
According to the host, there were 30 Sanders supporters, 30 HRC supporters and 40 Nevada Democratic nc4bo Feb 2016 #113
Was there any count on the number of questions from Sanders supporters to HRC supporters? EndElectoral Feb 2016 #127
See post#113 oasis Feb 2016 #132
113 is audience. Not questioners. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #154
k&r avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #96
I'm glad that most people here have noticed the difference in how men and women are judged Renew Deal Feb 2016 #102
The DOMA/equality questions were about why that particular woman oppsed those rights while Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #105
She was not "extremely upset". Drama much? Extremely upset livetohike Feb 2016 #106
Hillary has a "breaking point" when it comes to tough questions. Vinca Feb 2016 #108
Hillary doesn't put up with any bullshit from anybody. oasis Feb 2016 #133
Some people call that being rude. Vinca Feb 2016 #145
Guess what? We don't have to "get used" to it - all we have to do is not vote for her. reformist2 Feb 2016 #166
She should have said, "I'm sorry." Bad Thoughts Feb 2016 #109
As far as I can tell from the commentary on the town hall beedle Feb 2016 #112
Actually on Morning Joe, since you mentioned it berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #116
Jebus: Vanity Fair certainy watched a different Town Hall beedle Feb 2016 #114
She didn't lose her shit over the Wall Street question. She had a canned answer for that berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #115
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #123
His questions were best of the night and hit a nerve, and she flipped into attack mode. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #125
Bernie shouts like that mainstreetonce Feb 2016 #155
He did not lose his cool and go after the voter asking a reasonable question berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #156
The very idea "everybody else" needs to release their transcripts is absurd. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #158
xactly 840high Feb 2016 #163
The louder she screams, the more you're supposed to trust her left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #173
She's actually drank her own Kool-Aid and believe the Hillary myth. emsimon33 Feb 2016 #187
Did she invite him to the stage, to give him a hug, JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #191
Blowing her stack at that guy shouldn't come as a surprise. Remember THIS from 2009? TrollBuster9090 Feb 2016 #192
I think she looks Indignate Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #203
True mike dub Feb 2016 #195
+1 Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #204

plus5mace

(140 posts)
14. She was never what I'd call diplomatic.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:46 PM
Feb 2016

I wonder if Hillary has ever encountered a foreign policy problem she didn't try to launch a bomb at.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
121. Perhaps, that's why Hillary, as the nation's #1 diplomat, can point to no real accomplishments during her tenure as Sec of State...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:38 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
76. Hi11ary should get her 'facts' straight
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:31 AM
Feb 2016

before she practices to deceive. Countrywide went bankrupt because of the malfeasance of Mozilo and his fellow criminals. Mozilo did have to give up a wee bit of his ill-gotten gains. I wonder why Hi11ary pulled a defunct corporation out of her memory banks to bolster her assertion.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
135. She said she went after Hedge Funds too, But Wait...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

I don't have the time at this moment to research the facts, just going on fading memory here... Wasn't Chelsea holding a somewhat important position with one of these Hedge Funds, at the time of the crash and isn't her husband involved in management of that Hedge Fund operation recently/currently?



 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
175. that's my memory too, but I don't recall the name of co.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

and I didn't have time to google it. I may get to that this afternoon. was hoping someone had it at the tip of their fingers.. thanks!

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
182. Chelsea's Father in law did 5 years for Ponzi Scheme Fraud, and it's not an issue?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

Wow.

Their family is also no stranger to scandal. His father pleaded guilty to fraud in 2001 and spent five years in prison for scamming $10 million out of family and friends in a Ponzi scheme.


The press knows all about this of course, but will not report and make a big deal about it unless and until HRC wins the primaries. It will be fodder for Repukes campaign ads.

How is that the party power brokers even begin to square with this in terms of throwing their weight of support to HRC?

Scratching head on this one. Wow. Just Wow.


 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
183. Financial crimes committed without a gun seem so un-crimelike, don't they?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:37 PM
Feb 2016

(assume sarcasm html code here)

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
186. Oh the irony.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

still shaking my head over this one. I don't think I've seen any discussion on DU about it, but then I haven't been here for a time so I may have missed it. Thanks for spending time on searching and posting it here.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
198. I've been away from du for a time, maybe this story is "old" news here?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:10 PM
Feb 2016

Also a bit more research needs to be done and verified, and I personally haven't had the time. But feel free to take it on if you have the time!

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
160. not to mention... if she's so tough and has so much influence
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:46 PM
Feb 2016

why didn't her trip to wall street "before the crash" get any results?

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
174. Such a relevant point!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

Also, who's believing that Hi11ary told some of her biggest donors to "cut it out"? That is beyond ridiculous.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
78. I am too deaf to hear her words without major enhancement of sound, so for me
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:10 AM
Feb 2016

the video is entirely without sound.

Try watching her response (and the look on the man's face as she responds) without any sound.

You will be taken aback at how aggressive and angry her gestures and facial expressions seem. She is violently and repeatedly stabbing at him with her finger, and from her facial expressions I can tell that she is not just speaking loudly and passionately about an issue, but *yelling"--and yelling AT him, not about the issue or about the unfairness of something people have been subjected to.

Anger and aggressive gestures are not inherently probematic, if they seem to be appropriately directed--i.e., directed at the people and institutions who are oppressing or otherwise harming vulnerable and innocent people. But her anger seems entirely aimed at the questioner, for daring to question her. He looked intimidated and overwhelmed.

I am a tough old bird, but I would have felt attacked, too, if someone responded that way to me when I asked them a sincere question about some policy or position they had explicitly promoted.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
82. You are absolutely right
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:20 AM
Feb 2016

She was angry and you could hear it in her voice too. Sorry that you can't hear well. I struggle with hearing as well and it's frustrating. You're spot on.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
84. Did you turn off the sound to *watch* her response? If not, please do. It is not a
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:23 AM
Feb 2016

comforting sight.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
88. ha ha
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:29 AM
Feb 2016

no, I didn't but my spouse is running on the treadmill right now and that's loud enough to drown out the sound.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
131. I did...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:42 AM
Feb 2016

At one point it looks like she is telling him he is grounded! To get to his room and not come out! But seriously, this is an act she pulls over and over. Only three people know anything and they're the Clintons! The rest of us are simply dogs on the porch.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
90. I turned down the sound... just watching her face/body language gave me a new perspective
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:49 AM
Feb 2016

...and it wasn't good!
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
159. wow, I just watched with sound turned off
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016

I knew with the sound turned on she got pretty hot about halfway through, but with the sound turned off, WOW! And yes, you can see him repeatedly licking his lips and the expression in his eyes gets pretty ouchy.

She's a piece of work. Apparently she's confused between litigating a hot case and answering to citizens in a town hall...

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
118. It wasn't the shouting.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:59 AM
Feb 2016

In fact, this subthread was about watching it without sound. She looks mean... and I never want to hear about Bernie pointing again after watching this clip.

Renew Deal

(81,873 posts)
119. It was to the person I responded to
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:13 AM
Feb 2016

She looked fine to me. But women are judged on appearance. Men aren't accused of looking mean.



 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
134. Either way, she was shouting and there is no room for that in civil discourse.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:50 AM
Feb 2016

She is answering a question to someone who will not have another chance to respond. Speak words to convince. No extra volume necessary. And...using a picture of Trump to prove anything here is a futile response.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
196. I remember when she was appntd SoS thinking this will give her exp
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:59 PM
Feb 2016

And this corporatist dem has been pushed to the left by Bernie Sanders and his supporters. We must keep pushing her as she may be the nominee. She sounds more like Bernie everyday... but her Wall street, Bankster connections and donations since Her husband was president have endured over a long period of time. She even has Goldman-Sachs CEOs involved in her campaign so it's really hard to trust her new found progressiveness. Bernie has all of them against him for his stands but they are not against Hillary.When her husband was president she tried to get single payer HC but finally withdrew but got a hefty sum from the big pharma and the ins companies for her efforts(Michael Moore says how much at the end of his movie "Sicko&quot When it is all put together it does make one mistrustful. But Bernie has always been Bernie and we istened to him for over 10yrs on Thomm Hartmann's Brunch with Bernie and talked him into running.
I trust him completely. Feel the Bern...so unusual to have such an honest candidate.

Mother Of Four

(1,716 posts)
202. ...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:05 AM
Feb 2016

The raw emotion on that mans face, and the way she showed zero empathy for him makes my stomach flip. Can she not read facial expressions and body language? This issue was obviously an issue with a deeply personal impact for him. After his comment of how she broke his heart with the marriage issue, and his earnest "please" for the transcripts all she could do was attack, and attack again.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
44. As Bender said at his fake funeral to Fry:
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:04 AM
Feb 2016

"Who are you? You're nobody."

How dare this little peon get his 15 seconds of fame at the Great HRC's expense! You haven't donated to my Super PAC!

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
29. Hope that goes viral
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:51 PM
Feb 2016

If she can't keep her cool in a town hall meeting, imagine her in diplomatic negotiations.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
164. Isn't that what she did when BLM interrupted her?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

Pointing, shouting, acting like she is important and it's so kind of her to listen...

Yecchh!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
5. She sounded like she was yelling
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:42 PM
Feb 2016

I think she gets indignant when someone dares to challenge her, and boy he challenged her.

She did not like it!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
165. Challenge her he did!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:31 PM
Feb 2016

I wish I could buy him a beer!

That guy has more guts than anyone in our Media.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
17. After that moment I stopped hearing her words and all I could see
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016

Was her anger and indignancy. I think she became unhinged tonight. Things must be looking bad on the internals at Nevada. She expected to be basically unopposed and she's quite pissed to be answering for her stances and actions on issues.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
71. There's too much at stake in her camp
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:03 AM
Feb 2016

She has to deliver strong numbers- her wealthy donors were probably promised that it would be all over by now...and some Old White Socialist(TM) is putting her eventual win in doubt instead.

Those donors have no loyalty, or mercy. If they pull the plug and run a Bloomburg instead, she's done on more than one level.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
94. she looked unhinged in that weird speech after Iowa; manic and unstable; i remember
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:07 AM
Feb 2016

her eyes darting back and forth; she's scary

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
103. Of course they are scared
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:56 AM
Feb 2016

If she is defeated theres no more access or influence to sell and the family business goes under

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
25. Perhaps that's why she always reminds me of Cheney
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:49 PM
Feb 2016

there's a smug, hostile arrogance about her that's infuriating and chilling.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
122. You got that right
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:47 AM
Feb 2016

She did come off like snarlin' Dick when she was confronted with her own past acts. How dare the peons question her.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
200. Imagine being in that campaign --
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:59 AM
Feb 2016

Having to be the staffer to tell her bad news... The entire crew must be taking benzos to survive it emotionally.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. And she is getting irritated now again
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:43 PM
Feb 2016

just from listening to her. She is getting pressured and irritated more.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
9. I'm done with her. She was yelling aggressively at the guy. Insulting.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

I was done. You don't yell at an ordinary man who's expressing his feelings in a very soft tone. He wasn't angry but he wanted answers.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
11. She's just babbling
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

And being ridiculously vague.

And telling kids they'll ONLY have college debt for 15 years if she gets elected.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
26. Wait - literally she said that?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:49 PM
Feb 2016

ONLY debt for 15 years? Ugh.

It seems like it should be self evident that starting adult life with mountains of debt is a horrible horrible thing.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
48. It is easy to pay off student debt
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016

All they need is to get a 250k speaking engagement at Goldman Sachs or borrow the money from their families like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump. So simple...

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
49. "Know what they want? Obedient workers..."
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:09 AM
Feb 2016

George Carlin was right. And a great way to guarantee obedient workers is to weigh down college graduates with tens of thousands of dollars in debt.

"But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

"You know what they want? Obedient workers ­ people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your fucking retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."
 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
178. Man I love your screenname logo. A letter 'B' for Bernie with the arrow pointing Left
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:15 PM
Feb 2016

Great mocking of Hillary's 'H' logo with the arrow pointing to the right.
I had to save that pic on my computer 'cause it was so cool.

B to the Left.

HA! Even when you say it outloud it says a message!
Be to the LEFT.
Man that's smart. Very clever.
Thank you for that screenname logo.

I think I see where you got it from.
Just did a Google image search.
http://rickwolff.com/hillvetica/
Funny article.
John Lucas

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
181. I'm guilty of not remembering who it came from
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

I got it from someone here, with permission (apologies to that person for my forgetfulness).

I'm appalled by the blatant message of Clinton's logo, although I suppose it's honest.

I think you found the original source!

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
184. I think the idea was that the arrow stands for Forward not Right
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016
Hillary Forward I think was the idea.
But they didn't anticipate the interpretations OR the parodies that could pop up from such a logo.
And in this particular Democratic race, that arrow pointing to the Right couldn't come at a worse time.
Freud at work perhaps?

John Lucas

P.S.: Check out my response to LiberalLovinLug about his signature pic of a B pulling H to the left with a rope!
I just happened to see both of you all's posts back to back & I saw that theme of the B & the H!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511276303#post33
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
185. Her Logo is the one and only honest msg of her campaign.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

Clearly, she missed the point of this election.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
27. Indeed. If she gets that flustered with uncommitted voters and Dems
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:51 PM
Feb 2016

how would she deal with a Teabagger, or foreign head of State who was at all rude to her?

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
52. Men show anger all the time and are NOT penalized for it..fuck this shit
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:13 AM
Feb 2016

It's a double standard and iit sucks.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
95. no double standard; there's righteous anger and there's this manic, hyper-defensive, panicky outrage
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:12 AM
Feb 2016

that she exhibits; it's not anger at some legitimate anger trigger; it's a meltdown kind of anger when someone's physic defenses are starting to erode

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
137. Oh yes, and Hillary just happens to have the "wrong kind"of anger
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:07 PM
Feb 2016

Men are 'righteous" and passionate...Women are just "difficult" and bitchy.....Got it.

livetohike

(22,163 posts)
111. Sanders* is perpetually angry and upset, yet the criticism here is always
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:14 AM
Feb 2016

toward Hillary. I have to look away from the tv when he talks. Mute the sound and watch him. He seeps anger.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
167. There's a difference.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:47 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie doesn't go after people who ask him questions. He's angry at institutions and sell-out politicians. Hillary, on the other hand, is angry at the impertinence of the peon who dared contradict her narrative.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
201. That is not true.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:05 AM
Feb 2016

From the NYT Opinion page-- Charles Blow:

"In last week’s debate, a testy, abrasive and often flat-out rude Sanders tried to navigate this terrain, and failed."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/15/opinion/the-fire-meets-the-wall.html

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
124. Bullshit!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

She's being held to exactly the same standards as ANY professional regardless of gender. If you want to play on that level you have to show your meddle by being able to keep cool under fire and remaining focused on the issue(s) in front of you is party of that. As someone has already suggested, if she gets that riled from a tough question, asked politely, what the HELL is she going to do when the Republicans go after her tooth and nail? See? This is where you guys' argument falls off the rails. She's supposed to be so damned tough yet loses it with the slightest adversity. She's lived in a bubble for far too long surrounded by yes people telling her what she wants to hear. She won't hob-nob for any length of time with the unwashed masses for whom she clearly has disdain and when "confronted" by one, she loses her cool. This is not a leader.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
136. Bullshit yourself
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:00 PM
Feb 2016

What exactly constitutes " that' rilled"? Seriously. What did she do? Did she shout constantly as Bernie does as a matter of course?

Just HOW did she manifest this outrageous display of temper?...Did she scream, shout and level insults at people? Or did she just narrow her eyes and raise her voice a decibel or two?

Yeah, that's what I thought...."Same standads" my ass.

'

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
152. How do I know she got rilled?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:53 PM
Feb 2016

Her entire demeanor. Her body language, the level of her voice, the daggers she was shooting from her eyes, you know, the way most of us can determine if someone is upset. She doesn't get a pass because she's a woman. That notion, in fact, is the most ANTI-feminist excuse I can think of. It's demeaning. Women can make up their own minds and body parts don't enter into it. The way I know THAT is that ALL of us would have gone out of our minds overboard had Elizabeth Warren entered the race. But she didn't and we got Bernie instead, who is not a woman but a solid progressive nonetheless.

kenn3d

(486 posts)
19. Yes, I tweeted about this
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:48 PM
Feb 2016
RealEstateguy - Hillary evolves and evades and dodges and weaves... She won't answer your questions.
And no one believes her arglebargle


Her every "answer" has been contorted to evade the question and attack Bernie.

Sadly there's a significantly supportive audience which is helping her get away with this tactic.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
21. Was kind of an uncomfortable moment as she was obviously tense and animated in response
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:48 PM
Feb 2016

Which didn't even really address the guy's issues.

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
22. Heh...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:48 PM
Feb 2016

Funny, with bernie up there getting flustered, flailing his arms about, looking uncomfortable in his own skin, and just out of place. See how that works? She did fine, and what you saw there was probably a brand new Clinton supporter.

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
100. No....
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:36 AM
Feb 2016

Like the OP, I'm making a much bigger deal out of it than it really was, with the exception of the new Clinton supporter. That was totally serious.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
23. “I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.”
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:48 PM
Feb 2016

Jason "Jay" Gould was a leading American railroad developer and speculator. He was long vilified as an archetypal robber baron, whose success at business made him the ninth richest U.S. citizen in history

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
56. Every single time. Tough question, she laughs.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:22 AM
Feb 2016

Never answers the question, laughs dismissively.

Or derisively at the rudeness of the interviewer to ask such a question.


Never going to get my vote.

Never.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
39. Who would wish they could...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:59 PM
Feb 2016

Face off every candidate in a no holds barred interview in this format?

What makes me ponder is how the establishment are so blind to think that the people, the audience don't notice the difference in how the "toughguys" from GOP gets prissy when gets asked questions they don't like, Hillary gets aggressive, and Bernie stands his ground and do not deflect from his message... HE is the one getting the real hardballs here.

It's bizarre...

Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
42. Apparently the transcripts are a "hard question" for her...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:01 AM
Feb 2016

...you know what's not hard? Releasing them. I'm glad he followed up...she showed no leadership in saying she'll go when everyone else does.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
146. Does Bernie even have transcripts to release? Are we talking
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:36 PM
Feb 2016

every speech he's ever given, or just the secret ones?

On edit: I doubt he has any secret speeches.

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
50. I just said on another thread that it was a total Bernie campaign question right out of Bernie's
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:11 AM
Feb 2016

campaign stump speech. It was not a genuine citizen's question. There was another one who just repeated his phony stump speech talking points pretending it was a question. So phony.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
41. She was afraid of "how far she'll be asked to go" for LGBTQ rights
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:00 AM
Feb 2016

I guess she's evolved now, and I'm happy, but how can I trust somebody who has shown that

1) She was afraid of taking pro-LGBTQ stands
2) Waited to take such stands until after they were so popular that she couldn't get through a primary without doing so
3) In the intervening time made very personal and repeated assertions that her deeply held beliefs told her to oppose equality

To me that sounds like somebody who is just now going along to get along. I don't know if we can trust her.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
43. It was unbelievable.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:03 AM
Feb 2016

I think she lost any chance of winning the primary race tonight.
Her anger was palpable.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
45. After that, she became quite indignant & became rattled the rest of the time.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:05 AM
Feb 2016

She knows her success depends on this NV caucus.
She was stressed & scared. You can always tell because she strikes out & gets really LOUD!

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
46. Women are judged far more harshly than men for anger..
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016

and it's especially obvious in a political situation where anger is part and parcel of political discourse. -- Hell, Bernie sounds angry all the time...but Hillary
gets criticized for "narrowing her eyes".


I'm a Bernie supporter, btw, but I'm sick of the double standard being applied to women on this issue.










 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
85. Nope, just pointed that both were irritated at points
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:24 AM
Feb 2016

It just struck me she was more irritated. Sorry if that assessment is one that bothers you.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
83. Being deaf, I can only watch, not listen. Try it that way, Nadin. You will be astonished
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:22 AM
Feb 2016

at how furious she seems to be--AT the man and at his "presumption" for questioning her.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
86. Why I chose to just listen
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:26 AM
Feb 2016

I do that for all these shows these days.

I find it far more helpful. I guess for similar reasons as not engaging sound.

Though of all these pols Cruz without sound is the scariest.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
68. It's not anger - Hillary is arrogant.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:56 AM
Feb 2016

It oozes out of her, everything's "me me me" - arrogance is ugly.

Bernie is passionate because he believes what he says with everything he's got.

I don't see anger in either one of them.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
75. Yeah, that's what Right Wingers call President Obama
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:27 AM
Feb 2016

It's how racist whites view 'uppity' blacks and how sexist
men regard 'uppity'women.. You might want to re-think that, bro.



frylock

(34,825 posts)
92. Poor Hillary, ever the victim.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:57 AM
Feb 2016

Any and all criticism can be boiled down to either racism or sexism.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
143. Um, dudette?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016

I'm a girl too and I'm sadly aware of how many women internalize the "rules" to which society subjects them and judge their own kind accordingly.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
151. When Obama was first running for President ..
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:52 PM
Feb 2016

He didn't have entitlement issues or show anger at questions. He is the most even keeled speaker I have ever witnessed. It is only in the last two years that he has spoken with sterness of any kind.

Hillary continues where she left off in 2008...angry and condescending, not a good way to start off. People like to say that Hillary is dissed because she is a woman. She's no uppity woman. She is a person who has worked the system reaping money from corporations at the expense of people while maintaining her rights to secrets and back door deals.... raging at anyone who dares question her.

Being female is the last reason people won't vote for her.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
81. But Bernie's anger seems to be directed AT the rigged system, the unfairness, and the oligarchs that
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:20 AM
Feb 2016

are screwing over ordinary people. Sometimes Hillary's anger seems similarly (and thus *asppropriately*) directed.

In this exchange, though, she just seermed furious *at the questioner* for daring to question her.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
126. Sorry, I disagree in this situation.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:31 AM
Feb 2016

See post #124. It's others who are demanding that she NOT be held to the same standard because vagina.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
141. I don't think Bernie has advocated
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:18 PM
Feb 2016

winning because of any particular part of his anatomy so it's a non-starter.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
150. No, he hasn't
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:51 PM
Feb 2016

but many of his supporters are and it''s evident when they over react to her "anger' and, like the :Bernie bros', Bernie himself called out, hurl misogynist slurs at her.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
153. Many of his supporters are what?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

Man, you've got the lingo down, "Berni bros?" "Hurl misogynist slurs at her?" I'm done here.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
157. Oh my...Looks like you need to 'calm down' now, lol!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:20 PM
Feb 2016

The term :Bernie bros' isn't mime -- It was was used by the cable news reporter as the group:s self description, which is why I pit it in quotes,

You still haven't answered the questions, of course, but, given that you seem too agitated to eben reaf my post correvtly, or answer the questions, .maybe you dhould just take a chill pill and be "outta here".

The final irony here is that I AM a Bernie supporter. -- Don't believe it? Just check with the Hillary Group -- I was just kicked out for defending Berni.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
130. There's a difference between
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:42 AM
Feb 2016

getting angry at something that deserves anger and flying off the handle every time someone asks you a question that's not on your script. The latter is Hillary's stock in trade.

She's been well prepared by her million-dollar consultants and a small army of focus groups, but if someone asks her something they haven't prepared her for -- especially something that points out one of her many dismal failures -- she either cackles insanely or or gets "angry."

It's very inappropriate anger. Bernie gets angry at the system and how it fucks people over. Hillary gets angry when people question her about her cozy role within the system that fucks people over. I prefer Bernie's method.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
149. I understand & appreciate Bernie's anger
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:45 PM
Feb 2016

but I still think Hillary's anger -- and that of most women-- is judged disproportionately to that of men.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
169. Don't you think it matters who the anger is directed at?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

One candidate has anger directed at Wall Street and its abuses. The other showed anger about the question itself. I think the target of the anger matters.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
47. For those overseas, what townhall, how do I watch it?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016

Any help would be great. I haven't seen one debate all year because of location and time zone.

 

youceyec

(394 posts)
51. so what?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:11 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie seemed angry almost entire time when being questioned.

oh right:

#sexismlives

Also, unless every candidate releases details of paid speeches why should Hillary be the only one?

oh right:

#sexismlives

metroins

(2,550 posts)
54. That's what I thought
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:20 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie yelled the entire time, I turned him off when the woman asked in Spanish.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
57. Bernie never attacked anyone asking a question tonight
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:22 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary did. And it was obvious she was indignant. There is a difference and even men have to keep their cool. Romney lost to Obama in part because Obama knew how to rile him up.

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
79. She should...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:13 AM
Feb 2016

...release them if she wants to earn people's trust. It's obvious she can't let us see the contents. Does she really want to compare integrity with repugs by claiming the everyone does it be?

Sorry, but folks on this side of the argument prefer honesty over bullshit. She fits right into the bullshit category. I am left to assume she takes the equivalent of someone's home to tell rich greedy pricks for just an hour that she'll cover their asses as they further rig the system to steal more people's life savings...

If she wants me to think otherwise it's up to her to prove...

She just thinks she'll need to create an image that fits a narrative of her being... So when they...

...Then all us berniebros can just get fucked... As we then watch her lose to a repug!

At least the Independent party will be well stocked as caring struggling Americans flee and the 2 corrupt parties.

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
199. Yes...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:32 AM
Feb 2016

...Team Hillary keeps suggesting her gender is a qualification for President...

If that's not sexist I don't know what is.

Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
69. Did you hear her answer
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:01 AM
Feb 2016

…to the transcripts question? Absolutely absurd. And very telling.

She said she would release hers only after all the other candidates release their. "All the other candidates"? There's only one other candidate. Is she saying only after the Republicans release theirs? Is she holding us to the Republican standard for what si the right thing to do?

And why wait? I thought she was a leader. Thought she was only too happy to show how she "stuck it" to the Bankers..

It's as if she said, well if the weathervane blows hard enough in one direction…I'll take at look at it. I may "evolve".

She should just step up.

Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

oasis

(49,409 posts)
89. Hill was probably annoyed that a Bernie supporter was allowed
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:42 AM
Feb 2016

to ask two questions. One to a customer buddy. And don't be rude. "Can we trust you?" he asked. She showed him he could trust her to give him the scolding of his life if ever he was rude to her again.

I doubt if that fellow would ever want to tangle with her in the future.

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
93. And it was such a phony scripted campaign question. That was not a citizen's
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:07 AM
Feb 2016

question. She gave it what it was worth. He couldn't have been more phony. You could see he couldn't wait to get his "gotcha" in. She pulled him up, lol.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
113. According to the host, there were 30 Sanders supporters, 30 HRC supporters and 40 Nevada Democratic
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:21 AM
Feb 2016

Members in attendance.

That a Sanders supporter asked a question that's on the mind of many Americans (*see HRC's unfavorable polling numbers) makes it a legitimate question not a "gotcha".

She handled it badly imo and the exchange reenforces the sentiment that Hillary is not trustworthy person or politician.



EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
127. Was there any count on the number of questions from Sanders supporters to HRC supporters?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:32 AM
Feb 2016

Seemed the bulk of questions came from identified HRC supporters? Even Bernie at one point said "I hope there are a few supporters for me in the room."

Renew Deal

(81,873 posts)
102. I'm glad that most people here have noticed the difference in how men and women are judged
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:50 AM
Feb 2016

Your post is illustrative.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
105. The DOMA/equality questions were about why that particular woman oppsed those rights while
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:09 AM
Feb 2016

that particular man supported those rights. Hillary could have been the champion she claims she is but her own choice was to rant against marriage equality while claiming to be very devoted to a God who also opposed marriage equality and do continue that rant for 20 years.

I noticed the difference in how Hillary judged LGBT families and those families approved by the religion she really does not follow at all herself.....Noticed that for two decades. I also notice that her boosters do not care about that at all, not in the least. That's also problematic.

livetohike

(22,163 posts)
106. She was not "extremely upset". Drama much? Extremely upset
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:10 AM
Feb 2016

is Sanders* behavior at anyone's benign challenge to him.

Did you happen to notice all of the tight shots of Sanders* to minimize his spastic arm movements and aggressive finger pointing and wagging? His body language exudes "extremely upset".

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
108. Hillary has a "breaking point" when it comes to tough questions.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:12 AM
Feb 2016

My all-time favorite was when she snapped at BLM people and asked them if she should just talk to white people.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
112. As far as I can tell from the commentary on the town hall
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:19 AM
Feb 2016

that exchange never happened.

I heard it sort of mentioned in an off handed way once during the after-show discussion on MSNBC (watched for about 1/2hr or so) and this morning on Morning Joe, but so far I haven't seen anything specific about it (they did mentioned the CBS? 'I try to tell the truth' clip.)

Morning Joe seems to be wall to wall coverage defending Trump from that "vicious" Pope. SMH

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
116. Actually on Morning Joe, since you mentioned it
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:35 AM
Feb 2016

They are slamming Hillary for her horrible response about her lack of honesty.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
114. Jebus: Vanity Fair certainy watched a different Town Hall
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:22 AM
Feb 2016
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/02/hillary-clinton-wall-street-nevada

"Hillary Clinton Finally Nailed Her Wall Street Answer" (and they said it non ironically.)
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
115. She didn't lose her shit over the Wall Street question. She had a canned answer for that
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:34 AM
Feb 2016

She lost her shit over marriage equality. She must be just a one-issue candidate if she can only handle a subject about Wall Street.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
125. His questions were best of the night and hit a nerve, and she flipped into attack mode.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

She didn't handle it well at all.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,343 posts)
158. The very idea "everybody else" needs to release their transcripts is absurd.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:35 PM
Feb 2016

There is not a person on the planet, never mind campaign, who raked in as much personal wealth from speaking fees to the financial industry.

This thing is going to haunt her all the way to the election if she is the nominee. Might as well let the primary voters decide if we have a problem.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
173. The louder she screams, the more you're supposed to trust her
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:37 PM
Feb 2016

She says she's 'evolved'.
That's Clinton-speak for 'flip-flopped'.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
192. Blowing her stack at that guy shouldn't come as a surprise. Remember THIS from 2009?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016

Back from 2009, one of her first 'diplomatic' trips as Secretary of State...somebody asks her what 'The President' thinks about the world bank situation. The question is badly translated, and she thinks they're asking what her husband thinks. She blew her stack with that question, too.



 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
203. I think she looks Indignate
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

in the video you posted and in the other video.

Indignate: anger or scorn aroused by something felt to be unfair, unworthy, or wrong.

mike dub

(541 posts)
195. True
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:58 PM
Feb 2016

Full disclosure: I've been a Bernie supporter since the day he announced his candidacy last spring but I did see Hillary's response to the NV Realtor on a video clip and, decibel level wise, she was yelling. Modern microphones would broadcast her reply just fine if she just spoke normal volume. No need to yell. Hope I don't sound too sexist (sarcasm) because I'm a male but I doubt Hillary raising her voice against simple town hall questioners helps her much with voters who haven't decided yet.

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