2016 Postmortem
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She got extremely upset at his comment about his disappointment at her statements on marriage equality and how she's flip-flopped for political expediency.
Her anger was palpable and she seemed to really attack the poor guy while she bashed Bernie. Really bad showing and goes to her inability to take reasonable criticism.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)plus5mace
(140 posts)I wonder if Hillary has ever encountered a foreign policy problem she didn't try to launch a bomb at.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)before she practices to deceive. Countrywide went bankrupt because of the malfeasance of Mozilo and his fellow criminals. Mozilo did have to give up a wee bit of his ill-gotten gains. I wonder why Hi11ary pulled a defunct corporation out of her memory banks to bolster her assertion.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Countrywide owned my mortgage at the time. I remember it well.
2banon
(7,321 posts)I don't have the time at this moment to research the facts, just going on fading memory here... Wasn't Chelsea holding a somewhat important position with one of these Hedge Funds, at the time of the crash and isn't her husband involved in management of that Hedge Fund operation recently/currently?
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)and I didn't have time to google it. I may get to that this afternoon. was hoping someone had it at the tip of their fingers.. thanks!
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)Wow.
The press knows all about this of course, but will not report and make a big deal about it unless and until HRC wins the primaries. It will be fodder for Repukes campaign ads.
How is that the party power brokers even begin to square with this in terms of throwing their weight of support to HRC?
Scratching head on this one. Wow. Just Wow.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)(assume sarcasm html code here)
2banon
(7,321 posts)still shaking my head over this one. I don't think I've seen any discussion on DU about it, but then I haven't been here for a time so I may have missed it. Thanks for spending time on searching and posting it here.
questionseverything
(9,660 posts)honestly, the things a person can learn here
Arazi
(6,829 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)Also a bit more research needs to be done and verified, and I personally haven't had the time. But feel free to take it on if you have the time!
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)why didn't her trip to wall street "before the crash" get any results?
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Also, who's believing that Hi11ary told some of her biggest donors to "cut it out"? That is beyond ridiculous.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)the video is entirely without sound.
Try watching her response (and the look on the man's face as she responds) without any sound.
You will be taken aback at how aggressive and angry her gestures and facial expressions seem. She is violently and repeatedly stabbing at him with her finger, and from her facial expressions I can tell that she is not just speaking loudly and passionately about an issue, but *yelling"--and yelling AT him, not about the issue or about the unfairness of something people have been subjected to.
Anger and aggressive gestures are not inherently probematic, if they seem to be appropriately directed--i.e., directed at the people and institutions who are oppressing or otherwise harming vulnerable and innocent people. But her anger seems entirely aimed at the questioner, for daring to question her. He looked intimidated and overwhelmed.
I am a tough old bird, but I would have felt attacked, too, if someone responded that way to me when I asked them a sincere question about some policy or position they had explicitly promoted.
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)She was angry and you could hear it in her voice too. Sorry that you can't hear well. I struggle with hearing as well and it's frustrating. You're spot on.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)comforting sight.
no, I didn't but my spouse is running on the treadmill right now and that's loud enough to drown out the sound.
peace13
(11,076 posts)At one point it looks like she is telling him he is grounded! To get to his room and not come out! But seriously, this is an act she pulls over and over. Only three people know anything and they're the Clintons! The rest of us are simply dogs on the porch.
Duval
(4,280 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)And it ain't pretty!
reformist2
(9,841 posts)...and it wasn't good!
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I knew with the sound turned on she got pretty hot about halfway through, but with the sound turned off, WOW! And yes, you can see him repeatedly licking his lips and the expression in his eyes gets pretty ouchy.
She's a piece of work. Apparently she's confused between litigating a hot case and answering to citizens in a town hall...
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)In fact, this subthread was about watching it without sound. She looks mean... and I never want to hear about Bernie pointing again after watching this clip.
Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)She looked fine to me. But women are judged on appearance. Men aren't accused of looking mean.
peace13
(11,076 posts)She is answering a question to someone who will not have another chance to respond. Speak words to convince. No extra volume necessary. And...using a picture of Trump to prove anything here is a futile response.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)So no
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Cannot believe she is still using that BS story.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)...and I literally did a facepalm.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)I guess you're not supposed to question her.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)And this corporatist dem has been pushed to the left by Bernie Sanders and his supporters. We must keep pushing her as she may be the nominee. She sounds more like Bernie everyday... but her Wall street, Bankster connections and donations since Her husband was president have endured over a long period of time. She even has Goldman-Sachs CEOs involved in her campaign so it's really hard to trust her new found progressiveness. Bernie has all of them against him for his stands but they are not against Hillary.When her husband was president she tried to get single payer HC but finally withdrew but got a hefty sum from the big pharma and the ins companies for her efforts(Michael Moore says how much at the end of his movie "Sicko" When it is all put together it does make one mistrustful. But Bernie has always been Bernie and we istened to him for over 10yrs on Thomm Hartmann's Brunch with Bernie and talked him into running.
I trust him completely. Feel the Bern...so unusual to have such an honest candidate.
Mother Of Four
(1,716 posts)The raw emotion on that mans face, and the way she showed zero empathy for him makes my stomach flip. Can she not read facial expressions and body language? This issue was obviously an issue with a deeply personal impact for him. After his comment of how she broke his heart with the marriage issue, and his earnest "please" for the transcripts all she could do was attack, and attack again.
It's a very cold, mean look.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)She was writhing!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)"Who are you? You're nobody."
How dare this little peon get his 15 seconds of fame at the Great HRC's expense! You haven't donated to my Super PAC!
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Very elitist and condescending. She was talking down to and yelling at the guy.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)If she can't keep her cool in a town hall meeting, imagine her in diplomatic negotiations.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)freebrew
(1,917 posts)Pointing, shouting, acting like she is important and it's so kind of her to listen...
Yecchh!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I think she gets indignant when someone dares to challenge her, and boy he challenged her.
She did not like it!
vaberella
(24,634 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)I wish I could buy him a beer!
That guy has more guts than anyone in our Media.
dchill
(38,539 posts)That's why she's stacked the DLC delegate deck.
cali
(114,904 posts)Her entitlement and arrogance are disturbing.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Was her anger and indignancy. I think she became unhinged tonight. Things must be looking bad on the internals at Nevada. She expected to be basically unopposed and she's quite pissed to be answering for her stances and actions on issues.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)She has to deliver strong numbers- her wealthy donors were probably promised that it would be all over by now...and some Old White Socialist(TM) is putting her eventual win in doubt instead.
Those donors have no loyalty, or mercy. If they pull the plug and run a Bloomburg instead, she's done on more than one level.
amborin
(16,631 posts)her eyes darting back and forth; she's scary
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)If she is defeated theres no more access or influence to sell and the family business goes under
Duval
(4,280 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)there's a smug, hostile arrogance about her that's infuriating and chilling.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)She did come off like snarlin' Dick when she was confronted with her own past acts. How dare the peons question her.
eilen
(4,950 posts)Having to be the staffer to tell her bad news... The entire crew must be taking benzos to survive it emotionally.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)just from listening to her. She is getting pressured and irritated more.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)I was done. You don't yell at an ordinary man who's expressing his feelings in a very soft tone. He wasn't angry but he wanted answers.
berningman
(144 posts)He really rattled her.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)And being ridiculously vague.
And telling kids they'll ONLY have college debt for 15 years if she gets elected.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)ONLY debt for 15 years? Ugh.
It seems like it should be self evident that starting adult life with mountains of debt is a horrible horrible thing.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)She said itike she was doing us all a favor.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)It was a "I'll try".
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)So that means student debt "only" until age 37 or so is acceptable?
elljay
(1,178 posts)All they need is to get a 250k speaking engagement at Goldman Sachs or borrow the money from their families like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump. So simple...
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)George Carlin was right. And a great way to guarantee obedient workers is to weigh down college graduates with tens of thousands of dollars in debt.
"You know what they want? Obedient workers people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your fucking retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)sorely missed these days... Sorely missed ever since he died.
Mbrow
(1,090 posts)Love the user name BTW.
emmadoggy
(2,142 posts)absolutely nailed it there, didn't he?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Great mocking of Hillary's 'H' logo with the arrow pointing to the right.
I had to save that pic on my computer 'cause it was so cool.
B to the Left.
HA! Even when you say it outloud it says a message!
Be to the LEFT.
Man that's smart. Very clever.
Thank you for that screenname logo.
I think I see where you got it from.
Just did a Google image search.
http://rickwolff.com/hillvetica/
Funny article.
John Lucas
Matariki
(18,775 posts)I got it from someone here, with permission (apologies to that person for my forgetfulness).
I'm appalled by the blatant message of Clinton's logo, although I suppose it's honest.
I think you found the original source!
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)But they didn't anticipate the interpretations OR the parodies that could pop up from such a logo.
And in this particular Democratic race, that arrow pointing to the Right couldn't come at a worse time.
Freud at work perhaps?
John Lucas
P.S.: Check out my response to LiberalLovinLug about his signature pic of a B pulling H to the left with a rope!
I just happened to see both of you all's posts back to back & I saw that theme of the B & the H!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511276303#post33
2banon
(7,321 posts)Clearly, she missed the point of this election.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Depaysement
(1,835 posts)"Like a mortgage . . ."
Bless his nouveau riche soul.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)He didn't back off.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Trust issues.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)that's what tanked her in 2008, too.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)how would she deal with a Teabagger, or foreign head of State who was at all rude to her?
whathehell
(29,094 posts)It's a double standard and iit sucks.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)tblue37
(65,488 posts)demmiblue
(36,893 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)that she exhibits; it's not anger at some legitimate anger trigger; it's a meltdown kind of anger when someone's physic defenses are starting to erode
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Men are 'righteous" and passionate...Women are just "difficult" and bitchy.....Got it.
livetohike
(22,163 posts)toward Hillary. I have to look away from the tv when he talks. Mute the sound and watch him. He seeps anger.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Bernie doesn't go after people who ask him questions. He's angry at institutions and sell-out politicians. Hillary, on the other hand, is angry at the impertinence of the peon who dared contradict her narrative.
eilen
(4,950 posts)From the NYT Opinion page-- Charles Blow:
"In last weeks debate, a testy, abrasive and often flat-out rude Sanders tried to navigate this terrain, and failed."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/15/opinion/the-fire-meets-the-wall.html
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)She's being held to exactly the same standards as ANY professional regardless of gender. If you want to play on that level you have to show your meddle by being able to keep cool under fire and remaining focused on the issue(s) in front of you is party of that. As someone has already suggested, if she gets that riled from a tough question, asked politely, what the HELL is she going to do when the Republicans go after her tooth and nail? See? This is where you guys' argument falls off the rails. She's supposed to be so damned tough yet loses it with the slightest adversity. She's lived in a bubble for far too long surrounded by yes people telling her what she wants to hear. She won't hob-nob for any length of time with the unwashed masses for whom she clearly has disdain and when "confronted" by one, she loses her cool. This is not a leader.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)What exactly constitutes " that' rilled"? Seriously. What did she do? Did she shout constantly as Bernie does as a matter of course?
Just HOW did she manifest this outrageous display of temper?...Did she scream, shout and level insults at people? Or did she just narrow her eyes and raise her voice a decibel or two?
Yeah, that's what I thought...."Same standads" my ass.
'
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I'd say your post is a good example.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)All's Cslm. and I'm honestly interested in the answer.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Her entire demeanor. Her body language, the level of her voice, the daggers she was shooting from her eyes, you know, the way most of us can determine if someone is upset. She doesn't get a pass because she's a woman. That notion, in fact, is the most ANTI-feminist excuse I can think of. It's demeaning. Women can make up their own minds and body parts don't enter into it. The way I know THAT is that ALL of us would have gone out of our minds overboard had Elizabeth Warren entered the race. But she didn't and we got Bernie instead, who is not a woman but a solid progressive nonetheless.
kenn3d
(486 posts)And no one believes her arglebargle
Her every "answer" has been contorted to evade the question and attack Bernie.
Sadly there's a significantly supportive audience which is helping her get away with this tactic.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Which didn't even really address the guy's issues.
quickesst
(6,283 posts)Funny, with bernie up there getting flustered, flailing his arms about, looking uncomfortable in his own skin, and just out of place. See how that works? She did fine, and what you saw there was probably a brand new Clinton supporter.
ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)quickesst
(6,283 posts)Like the OP, I'm making a much bigger deal out of it than it really was, with the exception of the new Clinton supporter. That was totally serious.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)Jason "Jay" Gould was a leading American railroad developer and speculator. He was long vilified as an archetypal robber baron, whose success at business made him the ninth richest U.S. citizen in history
TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)How disgusting.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Usually she just cackles when someone asks a tough question.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Never answers the question, laughs dismissively.
Or derisively at the rudeness of the interviewer to ask such a question.
Never going to get my vote.
Never.
amborin
(16,631 posts)jalan48
(13,886 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)showed it.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Face off every candidate in a no holds barred interview in this format?
What makes me ponder is how the establishment are so blind to think that the people, the audience don't notice the difference in how the "toughguys" from GOP gets prissy when gets asked questions they don't like, Hillary gets aggressive, and Bernie stands his ground and do not deflect from his message... HE is the one getting the real hardballs here.
It's bizarre...
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TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...you know what's not hard? Releasing them. I'm glad he followed up...she showed no leadership in saying she'll go when everyone else does.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)every speech he's ever given, or just the secret ones?
On edit: I doubt he has any secret speeches.
R B Garr
(16,979 posts)campaign stump speech. It was not a genuine citizen's question. There was another one who just repeated his phony stump speech talking points pretending it was a question. So phony.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)I guess she's evolved now, and I'm happy, but how can I trust somebody who has shown that
1) She was afraid of taking pro-LGBTQ stands
2) Waited to take such stands until after they were so popular that she couldn't get through a primary without doing so
3) In the intervening time made very personal and repeated assertions that her deeply held beliefs told her to oppose equality
To me that sounds like somebody who is just now going along to get along. I don't know if we can trust her.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I think she lost any chance of winning the primary race tonight.
Her anger was palpable.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)She knows her success depends on this NV caucus.
She was stressed & scared. You can always tell because she strikes out & gets really LOUD!
whathehell
(29,094 posts)and it's especially obvious in a political situation where anger is part and parcel of political discourse. -- Hell, Bernie sounds angry all the time...but Hillary
gets criticized for "narrowing her eyes".
I'm a Bernie supporter, btw, but I'm sick of the double standard being applied to women on this issue.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and she got pressed, and reacted to it, more.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)So what?.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)a negative to be pointed out.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)It just struck me she was more irritated. Sorry if that assessment is one that bothers you.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)at how furious she seems to be--AT the man and at his "presumption" for questioning her.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I do that for all these shows these days.
I find it far more helpful. I guess for similar reasons as not engaging sound.
Though of all these pols Cruz without sound is the scariest.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)It oozes out of her, everything's "me me me" - arrogance is ugly.
Bernie is passionate because he believes what he says with everything he's got.
I don't see anger in either one of them.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)It's how racist whites view 'uppity' blacks and how sexist
men regard 'uppity'women.. You might want to re-think that, bro.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Any and all criticism can be boiled down to either racism or sexism.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)The shame game.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)I'm a girl too and I'm sadly aware of how many women internalize the "rules" to which society subjects them and judge their own kind accordingly.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)He didn't have entitlement issues or show anger at questions. He is the most even keeled speaker I have ever witnessed. It is only in the last two years that he has spoken with sterness of any kind.
Hillary continues where she left off in 2008...angry and condescending, not a good way to start off. People like to say that Hillary is dissed because she is a woman. She's no uppity woman. She is a person who has worked the system reaping money from corporations at the expense of people while maintaining her rights to secrets and back door deals.... raging at anyone who dares question her.
Being female is the last reason people won't vote for her.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)are screwing over ordinary people. Sometimes Hillary's anger seems similarly (and thus *asppropriately*) directed.
In this exchange, though, she just seermed furious *at the questioner* for daring to question her.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)See post #124. It's others who are demanding that she NOT be held to the same standard because vagina.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Really?
I 'd day the problem is more 'dick'
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)winning because of any particular part of his anatomy so it's a non-starter.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)but many of his supporters are and it''s evident when they over react to her "anger' and, like the :Bernie bros', Bernie himself called out, hurl misogynist slurs at her.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Man, you've got the lingo down, "Berni bros?" "Hurl misogynist slurs at her?" I'm done here.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)The term :Bernie bros' isn't mime -- It was was used by the cable news reporter as the group:s self description, which is why I pit it in quotes,
You still haven't answered the questions, of course, but, given that you seem too agitated to eben reaf my post correvtly, or answer the questions, .maybe you dhould just take a chill pill and be "outta here".
The final irony here is that I AM a Bernie supporter. -- Don't believe it? Just check with the Hillary Group -- I was just kicked out for defending Berni.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)getting angry at something that deserves anger and flying off the handle every time someone asks you a question that's not on your script. The latter is Hillary's stock in trade.
She's been well prepared by her million-dollar consultants and a small army of focus groups, but if someone asks her something they haven't prepared her for -- especially something that points out one of her many dismal failures -- she either cackles insanely or or gets "angry."
It's very inappropriate anger. Bernie gets angry at the system and how it fucks people over. Hillary gets angry when people question her about her cozy role within the system that fucks people over. I prefer Bernie's method.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)question at a Town Hall.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)but I still think Hillary's anger -- and that of most women-- is judged disproportionately to that of men.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)One candidate has anger directed at Wall Street and its abuses. The other showed anger about the question itself. I think the target of the anger matters.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Any help would be great. I haven't seen one debate all year because of location and time zone.
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)youceyec
(394 posts)Bernie seemed angry almost entire time when being questioned.
oh right:
#sexismlives
Also, unless every candidate releases details of paid speeches why should Hillary be the only one?
oh right:
#sexismlives
metroins
(2,550 posts)Bernie yelled the entire time, I turned him off when the woman asked in Spanish.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Hillary did. And it was obvious she was indignant. There is a difference and even men have to keep their cool. Romney lost to Obama in part because Obama knew how to rile him up.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...release them if she wants to earn people's trust. It's obvious she can't let us see the contents. Does she really want to compare integrity with repugs by claiming the everyone does it be?
Sorry, but folks on this side of the argument prefer honesty over bullshit. She fits right into the bullshit category. I am left to assume she takes the equivalent of someone's home to tell rich greedy pricks for just an hour that she'll cover their asses as they further rig the system to steal more people's life savings...
If she wants me to think otherwise it's up to her to prove...
She just thinks she'll need to create an image that fits a narrative of her being... So when they...
...Then all us berniebros can just get fucked... As we then watch her lose to a repug!
At least the Independent party will be well stocked as caring struggling Americans flee and the 2 corrupt parties.
youceyec
(394 posts)!
DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...Team Hillary keeps suggesting her gender is a qualification for President...
If that's not sexist I don't know what is.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)...for those of you who don't have cable.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)I missed a good part of it.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
to the transcripts question? Absolutely absurd. And very telling.
She said she would release hers only after all the other candidates release their. "All the other candidates"? There's only one other candidate. Is she saying only after the Republicans release theirs? Is she holding us to the Republican standard for what si the right thing to do?
And why wait? I thought she was a leader. Thought she was only too happy to show how she "stuck it" to the Bankers..
It's as if she said, well if the weathervane blows hard enough in one direction
I'll take at look at it. I may "evolve".
She should just step up.
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oasis
(49,409 posts)to ask two questions. One to a customer buddy. And don't be rude. "Can we trust you?" he asked. She showed him he could trust her to give him the scolding of his life if ever he was rude to her again.
I doubt if that fellow would ever want to tangle with her in the future.
R B Garr
(16,979 posts)question. She gave it what it was worth. He couldn't have been more phony. You could see he couldn't wait to get his "gotcha" in. She pulled him up, lol.
oasis
(49,409 posts)And it wasn't pretty. For him.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Members in attendance.
That a Sanders supporter asked a question that's on the mind of many Americans (*see HRC's unfavorable polling numbers) makes it a legitimate question not a "gotcha".
She handled it badly imo and the exchange reenforces the sentiment that Hillary is not trustworthy person or politician.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Seemed the bulk of questions came from identified HRC supporters? Even Bernie at one point said "I hope there are a few supporters for me in the room."
oasis
(49,409 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)Your post is illustrative.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)that particular man supported those rights. Hillary could have been the champion she claims she is but her own choice was to rant against marriage equality while claiming to be very devoted to a God who also opposed marriage equality and do continue that rant for 20 years.
I noticed the difference in how Hillary judged LGBT families and those families approved by the religion she really does not follow at all herself.....Noticed that for two decades. I also notice that her boosters do not care about that at all, not in the least. That's also problematic.
livetohike
(22,163 posts)is Sanders* behavior at anyone's benign challenge to him.
Did you happen to notice all of the tight shots of Sanders* to minimize his spastic arm movements and aggressive finger pointing and wagging? His body language exudes "extremely upset".
Vinca
(50,304 posts)My all-time favorite was when she snapped at BLM people and asked them if she should just talk to white people.
oasis
(49,409 posts)People should try to get used to it.
Vinca
(50,304 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Bad Thoughts
(2,531 posts)Instead, she stonewalled him.
beedle
(1,235 posts)that exchange never happened.
I heard it sort of mentioned in an off handed way once during the after-show discussion on MSNBC (watched for about 1/2hr or so) and this morning on Morning Joe, but so far I haven't seen anything specific about it (they did mentioned the CBS? 'I try to tell the truth' clip.)
Morning Joe seems to be wall to wall coverage defending Trump from that "vicious" Pope. SMH
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)They are slamming Hillary for her horrible response about her lack of honesty.
beedle
(1,235 posts)"Hillary Clinton Finally Nailed Her Wall Street Answer" (and they said it non ironically.)
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)She lost her shit over marriage equality. She must be just a one-issue candidate if she can only handle a subject about Wall Street.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)She didn't handle it well at all.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)All the time
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)There is not a person on the planet, never mind campaign, who raked in as much personal wealth from speaking fees to the financial industry.
This thing is going to haunt her all the way to the election if she is the nominee. Might as well let the primary voters decide if we have a problem.
840high
(17,196 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)She says she's 'evolved'.
That's Clinton-speak for 'flip-flopped'.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)The truth haunts her!
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,367 posts)and say that she would do the worrying for him?
No?
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Back from 2009, one of her first 'diplomatic' trips as Secretary of State...somebody asks her what 'The President' thinks about the world bank situation. The question is badly translated, and she thinks they're asking what her husband thinks. She blew her stack with that question, too.
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)in the video you posted and in the other video.
Indignate: anger or scorn aroused by something felt to be unfair, unworthy, or wrong.
mike dub
(541 posts)Full disclosure: I've been a Bernie supporter since the day he announced his candidacy last spring but I did see Hillary's response to the NV Realtor on a video clip and, decibel level wise, she was yelling. Modern microphones would broadcast her reply just fine if she just spoke normal volume. No need to yell. Hope I don't sound too sexist (sarcasm) because I'm a male but I doubt Hillary raising her voice against simple town hall questioners helps her much with voters who haven't decided yet.