Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:38 PM Feb 2016

Who are Hillary's supporters?

Elsewhere in this forum there is talk about the Clinton campaign's effort to encourage more social media participation among its supporters. I responded that one reason is because of the age difference. But I want to go further. There's a lot of Bernie noise on this web site, but that doesn't mean that Bernie supporters are the only ones out there. Most people I know are Hillary supporters. Others are on the fence. Some are Sanders supporters, but not because they think Hillary is a liar. I don't personally know a single person who thinks that.

Don't respond "look at the polls." I'm not saying that Democrats aren't more and more evenly divided. Iowa was a split. There was NH, but there will be the south. I'm saying that the tone of this website is misleading. And I encourage the Hillary supporters who "stay out of GDP" to remember that and take heart.

38 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Who are Hillary's supporters? (Original Post) LAS14 Feb 2016 OP
Most Hillary supporters just don't have time for social media. leftofcool Feb 2016 #1
Haha.... quickesst Feb 2016 #2
It's true, we are usually older and we live in the real world. Reluctant to listen.. dubyadiprecession Feb 2016 #4
I'm older--live in the real world and find it interesting you have FDR as an icon. Red Knight Feb 2016 #31
My world is pretty fucking real easttexaslefty Feb 2016 #36
uh...where do you think you are right now? On social media, maybe? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #12
+100 Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #18
Arguments are much more effective when they don't make you break out in laughter. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #19
Just like the old RW chestnut about most democrats being on welfare whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #33
Could you make Hillary supporters sound TransitJohn Feb 2016 #35
older people hill2016 Feb 2016 #3
So, you have been here 11 days, have 115 post (49 of which are in the Clinton forum) Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #5
good point nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #7
I don't "know" anyone on this web site. LAS14 Feb 2016 #9
That wasn't my point. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #10
No, not exaggerating. I thought about it hard. nt LAS14 Feb 2016 #13
Then I will simply offer this... Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #14
Let's just think a bit. LAS14 Feb 2016 #16
Complex? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #22
For what it's worth, that's dated June, 2015. LAS14 Feb 2016 #23
I know, not much polling on it since then. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #25
Well indigoth Feb 2016 #6
Not surprised at all. LAS14 Feb 2016 #21
I'm an older person, 69, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #8
The vast majority of the public believe she is a dishonest person. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #11
See my reply #16 LAS14 Feb 2016 #17
The devotees of Politics-as-usual with excellent nose-holding abilities. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #15
Older, wealthy people. Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #20
I bet many are well off UglyGreed Feb 2016 #24
I agree with you, but I for one am not struggling. Ron Green Feb 2016 #27
Good to hear UglyGreed Feb 2016 #32
Hillary's supporters look a lot like her. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #26
Soon to be 63. SamKnause Feb 2016 #28
59 and I agree with every one of your words, Sam. hifiguy Feb 2016 #29
It has been soul crushing to watch and live through the destruction SamKnause Feb 2016 #30
This. easttexaslefty Feb 2016 #37
I am female as well. SamKnause Feb 2016 #38
k&r bigtree Feb 2016 #34

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
1. Most Hillary supporters just don't have time for social media.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
Feb 2016

If they use it at all, it is more than likely in conjunction with careers/jobs. We just have better things to do with our time.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
2. Haha....
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:49 PM
Feb 2016

.... Shit, I'm sitting in the parking lot waiting to go to work in 15 minutes. Won't get out of here until 11 o'clock tonight. Might get a chance to sneak a peek on my lunch break but not much else, so you're right as far as I'm concerned.

GO HILLARY!!! 2016

dubyadiprecession

(5,720 posts)
4. It's true, we are usually older and we live in the real world. Reluctant to listen..
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:50 PM
Feb 2016

to snake oil vendors,charlatans,socialist's promising things they can't deliver.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
31. I'm older--live in the real world and find it interesting you have FDR as an icon.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:51 PM
Feb 2016

Because that's pretty much what would be said about him and the "New Deal" if he were running today.

"In 1936, while campaigning for a second term, FDR told a roaring crowd at Madison Square Garden that “The forces of ‘organized money’ are unanimous in their hate for me—and I welcome their hatred.”

http://www.history.com/topics/new-deal

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
12. uh...where do you think you are right now? On social media, maybe?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:15 PM
Feb 2016

I can point out more than 14,000 posts where you appear to have time for social media.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
19. Arguments are much more effective when they don't make you break out in laughter.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

And that's what this one did, sans clue.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. So, you have been here 11 days, have 115 post (49 of which are in the Clinton forum)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:52 PM
Feb 2016

and claim you don't know anyone who thinks Hillary is a liar?


Pardon me if I take that statement with a grain of salt.



P.S. A belated Welcome To DU!



 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
14. Then I will simply offer this...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:20 PM
Feb 2016
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/27/wapoabc-poll-hillarys-trustworthiness-down-to-36-among-democrats/


^snip^


WaPo/ABC poll: Hillary’s relative trustworthiness down to 36% … among Democrats


The honest/trustworthy indicator may be an indirect indicator of a lowered ability to inspire turnout, though:




LAS14

(13,783 posts)
16. Let's just think a bit.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:35 PM
Feb 2016

Note that the question is "who is MORE honest and trustworthy" when comparing two people. I think most Clinton supporters would agree that she is way more complex than Sanders. Sanders is single minded. He can afford to speak off the top of his head because he doesn't deal in nuance or complexity. That's an attractive quality in many situations, and I suppose if I were forced to choose an answer to this question, I'd choose Sanders. But for that very reason I fervently hope that Hillary is the nominee for president. The world at that level is extremely complex. That poll definitely does NOT tell us that 48% of the Democratic population think Hillary is a liar... anymore than it tells us that 36% of the Democratic population think Sanders is a liar.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
22. Complex?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/2/liar/

^snip^

POLL: Hillary Clinton dishonest, untrustworthy

Nearly 6 in 10 think Hillary Clinton is dishonest and untrustworthy, a new poll finds.

In just two months, the number of people who say Hillary can’t be trusted has risen 8 points to 57 percent, according to a new CNN/ORC poll on the 2016 race. Exactly half agreed that she does not inspire confidence, also up 8 points.







It seems pretty simple to me.












 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
25. I know, not much polling on it since then.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

The MSM doesn't like to display Hillary's weakness.

Please Take this into account (although favorability is not exactly trustworthiness, it is similar).











indigoth

(137 posts)
6. Well
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:53 PM
Feb 2016

Most of the people I know, personally, aren't Hillary supporters. Pondering further, none of them are Hillary supporters. The vast vast vast majority are Bernie supporters, with a few smatterings of one republican candidate or another. But ... Hillary supporter? Not a single one. The general consensus is not necessarily that there's something wrong with Hillary, but Bernie is just so right.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
21. Not surprised at all.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016

People tend to live in social milieus where there's a lot of agreement. You're just saying that your milieu is more like DU than not. I'm saying that DU doesn't define the greater Democratic world.

But I am glad to meet (on this website) someone who likes Bernie without calling Hillary a liar, etc. The early debates were something to be proud of. Actually, the later debates aren't bad, especially compared to the Republicans. Too bad this website can't behave more like Bernie and Hillary.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
8. I'm an older person, 69,
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

and I have exactly two Hillary supporters on my Facebook feed, at least among my friends who post political stuff.

But as someone posted here yesterday, Alaska polls 14% more favorably for Bernie than Hillary, so it's not surprising that most of my friends support him.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
11. The vast majority of the public believe she is a dishonest person.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

It's exceedingly difficult to get out of a hole like that, and it's completely impossible to dismiss it and make it go away.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
17. See my reply #16
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

Unfortunately, you're right. When people make judgements without thinking (see my reply #16) it's really hard to get them to pay attention to a rational response.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
20. Older, wealthy people.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

Actually, Hill2016 said the same thing up thread and that may be the first time I've ever agreed with that poster. I'd also add that there are still large swaths of people that don't give a toss about politics and think Hillary is who they should vote for because that is what they hear.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
24. I bet many are well off
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

and comfortable with the status quo......Most Bernie supporters are those who are struggling and have been left behind......by the crowds totals there seems to be more of the latter.

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
27. I agree with you, but I for one am not struggling.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

I want the painful change we've got to embrace. I want to pay taxes for a better and more connected US community. I want to join in a movement that challenges those who have much to realign their priorities, and those who have little to participate in the transformation of our country and our world.

Most of my friends and acquaintences feel this way, and support Bernie Sanders. Most of those I know who are fearful of losing what they've got support a Republican. Almost no one I know supports Hillary Clinton.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
32. Good to hear
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016
those of us who struggle do not hate successful people, we just want to be able to dream again...for our children's sake.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. Hillary's supporters look a lot like her.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:59 PM
Feb 2016

Women my age and older, only with lots of money, they are used to telling people around them how things should be, I just described my grandmother in the 1970's, yeah she would probably support Hillary if she was still alive. She was a feminist before being a feminist was cool like in the 40's.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
28. Soon to be 63.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:32 PM
Feb 2016

I support Bernie.

I am sick and tired of the Bush family.

I am sick and tired of the Clinton family.

I am sick and tired of the non existent spineless Democratic party.

The destruction those 2 administrations and the Democratic party

have caused are incalculable !!!

The Republicans are in charge when they are in the minority.

The Republicans are in charge when they are in the majority.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
30. It has been soul crushing to watch and live through the destruction
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

of towns, people's lives destroyed, lost jobs, broken families, and poverty

always just around the corner.

Barely scraping by and not able to save a penny.

Working low paying jobs with split shifts.

It is truly sickening.

4 corporations I worked for packed up and left the U.S.

My brother lost his job after 26 years.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Who are Hillary's support...