2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMSNBC all but called it
Bernie Sanders leads 2-1 of those younger than 45 and has a 12 pt lead with those making $50,000 or less.
On edit: 52-44 white voters (64% of voters), Hispanic voters 54-43 (17% of voters)
What does that mean?
That is a lock it for Sanders.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)Nevada Dems have an older demographic that is about 2 - 1 for Hillary - and there are more of them
But the heavy turnout that is being reported favors Bernie. It means the youth is coming out.
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Word is some people are walking away from long lines.
dchill
(38,516 posts)EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Sorry, I don't have a link other than that.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)I was flipping between them.
thomservo
(147 posts)is promising.
angrychair
(8,732 posts)What strongly counters that is the combination of the large youth vote and the 12 pt lead with those making 50 or less (a much larger group than any other).
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)18-24 8.3%
25-34 14.6%
35-44 14.4%
45-54 17.2%
55-64 19.1%
__65+ 26.3%
Hillary is heavily supported by the 65+ - kind of like Bernie is with the young ones - not quite as extreme an there is three times as many of them.
There is same day registration which is when a bunch of the kids sign up. And heavy turnout so everyone feels that's good for Bernie.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)This doesn't make sense to me. Bernie is much stronger on issues affecting Medicare, and Social Security, on strengthening them and even increasing them.
I am 66 and I think a lot of DU members are up here too...and we want the Bern, so I don't understand states where the elderly are not backing Sanders.
Maybe many of them aren't paying attention. I admit our population here is not the norm. We are politically savvy, internet users seeking information, and we are paying attention and a lot of people just settle for what they hear on Fox news or other news sources.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I think you've got it in that last paragraph. I know folks of our age group who have strong notions based on bad or misleading info.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)- and I look at the demographics of a lot of them
This is from the entrance/exit polling (which are not always precise)
http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/primaries/democrat/nevada/exit/
65 or over (28%) 74% Clinton Sanders 24%
28% of the electorate at 65+ is a high number but it's been like that in prior years in Nevada
Sanders also won
whites 49-47(59%) and
Hispanics 53-45 (19%)
but lost the blacks (13%) 73-22
Pull Clark county and Sanders wins the state by 5pts.
Keys to Clinton's win:
- won the biggest county, Clark, by a good margin
- big majority of black vote
- people 65+
The polling for 65+ and the blacks has been consistent in the polls I've seen.
madokie
(51,076 posts)saying that the election board is overwhelmed by the new registrations. Something like they've never seen before. There is two other issues on the ballot but its stuff that normally doesn't bring out the masses so my gut tells me its for Sanders and or tRump. No one around here likes Hill so I doubt she plays any part in this. I wish she'd just go away is about as good as you'll get when you mention her name
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/voter-registrations-surge-in-tulsa-county-ahead-of-elections/article_6ffde9fe-be6e-5ba0-b68e-c2ae18f9fddd.html
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Bernie leading the under $50K people by 12% and Hillary leads the over $50K people by 9%.
Medium income in NV is $51,450.
If those numbers are all correct, it comes down to turnout and it might be a slim win for Bernie,
http://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/nevada/
^snip^
The current median household income for Nevada is $51,450.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)i expect MSNBC wants Bernie's voters to stay at home
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Everyone is in doing their thing now. They already were when the entrance poll results were announced.
FarPoint
(12,428 posts)Go Bernie.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Any Republican who stands for Sanders, then appears at the GOP caucus on Tuesday, HAS to be removed from the counts for both parties.
intersectionality
(106 posts)The cluster fuck that was Iowa. Sounds like caucuses are just straight asking for voter fraud
iandhr
(6,852 posts)FarPoint
(12,428 posts)The GOP has attacked the Clinton's for well over 20 years and have been unsuccessful... Yes, I agree with your assessment.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)angrychair
(8,732 posts)Had Bernie ahead 49 to 47
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511284469
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)who call people in the phone book. No demographic breakdown or weighting. It's not really a poll, though they got nicely lucky in NH.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Wow
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Her people just aren't that motivated to turn out
dana_b
(11,546 posts)Please don't count the chicken, people! It's going to be a looooong day.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Expectations is everything.
Hope for the best, and say you expect the worst in all your presidential primary campaign endeavors. This is will carry you far.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Bernie only beat Hillary by 3 points with those making 50k or less.
Don't know if Iowa exit poll numbers give any insight into NV, but here they are:
http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/primaries/democrat/iowa/exit/
Aerows
(39,961 posts)A Bernie win in Nevada after the crushing defeat in New Hampshire will signal that he is absolutely electable, so it isn't necessary to prop-up the "inevitable Clinton". You can actually vote for the person you want to vote for, not just some focus group tested pack of "principles" that change daily and with the direction of the wind.
renate
(13,776 posts)If you're in a union and the union leaders are right there in the same room telling you to vote for Person A, wouldn't it be pretty risky to openly vote for Person B?
Caucuses are ridiculous. I wish everybody in every state would get to do it like we do in Oregon, and vote by mail from the comfort of their own homes--no time off work, no time in long lines, and privacy.
jillan
(39,451 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 6 minutes ago
Report from field: Lots of new registrants, reports of GOPers switching to vote. "Overheard kids saying parents switch..to vote for Bernie."
Apparently, they've interviewed a few and this isn't being done to cheat/mess with it - it's being done because they're leaving the GOP for good for Bernie. Their kids turned them on to him. Obviously, I don't know how widespread but I've seen it more than once
angrychair
(8,732 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)FarPoint
(12,428 posts)Sorry but, he just lost Nevada... Super Tuesday is his last hope...
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)OP says it is a lock.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)balloons .
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)balloons !!! The 1% eked one out, more than a 6th of a percent .
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)On edit, just to seal my 1% credentials:
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and if this is the case, it will be interesting
Robbins
(5,066 posts)both cnn and MSNBC are reporting bernie is winning the hispanic vote according to enterence polls! There goes just white guys voting for bernie.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)old roads are rapidly aging.Get out of the new oneIf you can't lend a hand.O, the times they are a'changing.
~Bob Dylan
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)when I participated in Occupy Los Angeles in 2010. I beheld the future and it gave me great hope. Occupy made Sanders possible, imo.
cureautismnow
(1,677 posts)californiabernin
(421 posts)If Sanders can keep it within single digits, it's O.K. If it's within a few percent, great. If he wins, awesome!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and even Clinton supporters are realizing that her campaign is a bust, just like it was in 2008.
She is fantastic at being a dirty fighter behind the scenes, but the scrutiny under which she would be if by some chance she won the nomination and the GE would crush her and the Democratic party.
She is not the genuine article.
Nobel_Twaddle_III
(323 posts)Please, someone inform Tweety that Bernies tax on wall street speculation is not a big tax on Grandpa because Grandpa does not usually day trade in his 401K
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)You were saying?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)unc70
(6,117 posts)About 10% each, if I remember. Seems like Asians were slightly favoring Sanders. If so, any AA support he receives would be the margin of victory. But knows. Well all of us in a couple of hours.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)VERY odd they'd call it with half the precincts reporting.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)I'm confused as to why they are calling it at 5:00 EST?
Isn't the 2-3 PM Nevada time?
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)The better candidate...Nevada was bernies last chance...it's all downhill from here for Clinton...
angrychair
(8,732 posts)While a Democrat candidate has lost the GE with a positive trustworthiness and likeability number, no Democrat has ever won the GE with these numbers being negative.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)highly doubtful that the entrance poll re: hispanics is correct.
BeatleBoot
(7,111 posts)Woot! Woot!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Than the first few dozen.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Red state my ass.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Nevada has gone blue the last two presidential elections.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Bill Clinton won it twice. Besides it's a democratic caucus. Democrats vote. I guess you only want lily white states to have a say rather than states that have a lot of minorities? I guess that will be your argument when Bernie loses South Carolina, too?
beaglelover
(3,488 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Even more so than exit polls. Iowa entrance polls initially had Hillary winning by a significant margin and she barely won.