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Hillary won Caesars Palace 70-30 (Original Post) Renew Deal Feb 2016 OP
Great numbers! livetohike Feb 2016 #1
Shall we coronate her the next Caesar then? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #2
I see her going the Bonaparte route and crowning KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #5
shoulda stopped with the first cute line. Hortensis Feb 2016 #17
The GOP is massively and disturbingly authoritarian. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #19
You are confusing firm decision-making with Hortensis Feb 2016 #23
We're going to have to disagree. This is why I find her authoritarian, but others free to differ. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #25
Should define which eras you are drawing from. Hortensis Feb 2016 #34
All eras I am drawing positions from are post-Clinton presidency. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #35
And leftward since 2000. Hortensis Feb 2016 #36
This is site where they just let everyone in kcjohn1 Feb 2016 #3
Yes, union. Probably threatened by union leaders. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #4
I'd say that's a bit of a stretch. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #7
The union leaders endorsed Hillary w/o a membership vote. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #11
yup, all of those in power are trying to prevent revolt. union leaders included Amishman Feb 2016 #16
What a Republican thing to say. n/t livetohike Feb 2016 #9
See 11. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #12
"Republican" memes are all too common here. Hortensis Feb 2016 #20
Yes. The Rand Paulites have a lot of time on their hands. n/t Yavin4 Feb 2016 #24
LOL, but their natural seque is to join the formidable Hortensis Feb 2016 #33
Yup. Agschmid Feb 2016 #26
Should they not let people in? Renew Deal Feb 2016 #6
Not usually. Everyone has an assigned place to caucus. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #10
That's because they work during caucus time. joshcryer Feb 2016 #15
But what about workers at other jobs that did NOT get to caucus? Skwmom Feb 2016 #18
Smaller venues reporting first. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #8
Hillary's base is old and wealthy, so that's not much of a surprise. Among all other demographics Electric Monk Feb 2016 #13
Casino janitors and maids are "old and wealthy?" Renew Deal Feb 2016 #14
Must be the tips? Perhaps hauling all those undeclared chips out inyour underwear somehow ages you? Hortensis Feb 2016 #21
Don't voters have to caucus in locations based on residence? grntuscarora Feb 2016 #22
Allowed to caucus where they work. Agschmid Feb 2016 #27
Yup. Just saw that. Thanks! grntuscarora Feb 2016 #30
It is the wait staff voting. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #29
It is mostly the wait staff voting at the casinos... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #28
Are you sure about that? Electric Monk Feb 2016 #31
You vote where you work. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #32

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
2. Shall we coronate her the next Caesar then?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

She is quite authoritarian, so it makes sense, I guess, if that's what you're into.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. shoulda stopped with the first cute line.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

The GOP is fielding several with authoritarian bents. I don't mind you finding out in foreign travels what authoritarian means, hopefully not disastrously, but not here. Never here.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
19. The GOP is massively and disturbingly authoritarian.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:18 PM
Feb 2016

On the spectrum of things though, Clinton is more authoritarian than not: see NSA, deportation of latino kids running for their lives, marijuana, foreign policy.

So your point is well taken, but there is a spectrum of things and Hillary leans one direction.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. You are confusing firm decision-making with
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:29 PM
Feb 2016

authoritarianism. By that standard every kindergarten teacher would be authoritarian. -- oh, waIt. They are.

Note the difference. Government does not get to order citizens around against their will because it has the authority and we have a duty to obey.. We gave ourselves something called the Bill of Rights.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
25. We're going to have to disagree. This is why I find her authoritarian, but others free to differ.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:37 PM
Feb 2016

Foreign Policy: advocating for the overthrow of democratically-elected governments in Latin America because they do not align with our interests.

Marijuana: Is not for legalization despite multiple states choosing to legalize the substance and having no issue. She knows better than the states and their voters?

Marriage: A man is a sacred bond between a man and a woman -- she is defining for others what marriage means.

Patriot Act / NSA: We the government have a right to read your communications / know your network of contacts lest you be a criminal or terrorist.

Immigration: Have to deport young kids running for their lives back to their country of origin "to teach their parents a lesson". -- Okay this is a bit weak on authoritarian / libertarian, but it is just heartless.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Should define which eras you are drawing from.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:02 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary's virtue and to some degree her weakness is that her positions shift to reflect the will of the people she represents. BTW, when her husband was President, she was considered by many observers at that time to be well to his left; but when it came down to it she stood in front of the cameras and supported his decisions. Of course.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
35. All eras I am drawing positions from are post-Clinton presidency.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:05 PM
Feb 2016

Yes, I grant that she was probably to the left of Bill during the '90s. At this point I don't know where Bill is, but it's a fair bet that she has drifted rightwards since the '90s.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
3. This is site where they just let everyone in
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:01 PM
Feb 2016

I actually don't have huge problem with that.

I suspect this is was get the vote out by the local union workers there.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. The union leaders endorsed Hillary w/o a membership vote.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:08 PM
Feb 2016

And when Hillary was running short of funds, the union leaders ordered the members to go out and canvass for her. It would not surprise me the least if union leaders threatened members to caucus for Hillary. No secret ballots.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
16. yup, all of those in power are trying to prevent revolt. union leaders included
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:12 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie is a threat to the money machine, and even union leadership is worried

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. LOL, but their natural seque is to join the formidable
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:59 PM
Feb 2016

extreme anti-progressive/anti-government forces.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
10. Not usually. Everyone has an assigned place to caucus.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:06 PM
Feb 2016

These are different because they allow the workers to caucus no matter where they live.


Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
18. But what about workers at other jobs that did NOT get to caucus?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

Were they all valid NV voting eligible or did chaos rein?
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
13. Hillary's base is old and wealthy, so that's not much of a surprise. Among all other demographics
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:09 PM
Feb 2016

she loses.

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
14. Casino janitors and maids are "old and wealthy?"
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:10 PM
Feb 2016

You have any evidence to prove that ridiculous claim?

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
22. Don't voters have to caucus in locations based on residence?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

I doubt the janitors and maids live in Caesars Palace or even in the immeidiate area, unless the casino provides housing, which I guess is possible.

Electric Monk might have a point.

Never mind. Just learned upthread NV voters can caucus where they work.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
30. Yup. Just saw that. Thanks!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:48 PM
Feb 2016

I've never lived in a caucus state, and this is the first primary cycle I've paid attention to caucuses. They are pretty mysterious, for an outsider.

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