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Hillary's FIREWALL BERNED DOWN; Latinos break 54-43% for SANDERS (Original Post) ram2008 Feb 2016 OP
We Us Together - Vs - No Can't And Impossible -- The Choice Is Clear For The 99% cantbeserious Feb 2016 #1
Si se puede! - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #6
God bless US, WE ALL! roguevalley Feb 2016 #26
So why did he lose? SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #51
Don't pop any corks yet. Very early numbers. dchill Feb 2016 #2
Party hats optional? oasis Feb 2016 #50
I know a thing or two about firewalls. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #3
LoL Paulie Feb 2016 #15
The good old bit bucket, null0. I knew work would come in handy one day outside of work. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #17
BETTER GET MULDER IN HERE! THESE LAST THREE POSTS! FIRST roguevalley Feb 2016 #28
I want to bereave...Hillary's prospects of winning. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #32
If NOT For All The Cheating... Bernie Might Have WON Nevada! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #64
Nice! frylock Feb 2016 #21
add an ignore PatrynXX Feb 2016 #62
That's better than #s for whites. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #4
Stole berned down for the title ram2008 Feb 2016 #5
Thumbs up! HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #13
This is very exciting! me b zola Feb 2016 #7
If I had to guess Hillary eeks out a victory. JRLeft Feb 2016 #8
Firewall is in flames! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #9
40s the new youth vote noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #10
I'm 61 and when I was 44 I felt pretty damn young in comparison! Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #27
44 year olds are tiny tots. greymouse Feb 2016 #40
B-but she's their abuela LittleBlue Feb 2016 #11
Maybe because she didn't invite us to her mansion. Or any of her mansions. n/t vaberella Feb 2016 #20
don't count your chickens before they're roasted Amishman Feb 2016 #12
As an Afro-Caribbean Latina...Amen. n/t vaberella Feb 2016 #14
And they do vote. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #16
Bern, baby, Bern! Depaysement Feb 2016 #18
You'd better WAKE UP DEMOCRATIC PARTY! Chasstev365 Feb 2016 #19
You know Julian Castro is on speed dial DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #22
If that is even close, a big argument for "inevitability" breaks down... modestybl Feb 2016 #23
. George II Feb 2016 #24
Yeah, I'm not sure that I understand this thread. Clinton is the projected winner in Nevada Number23 Feb 2016 #37
With only 37% of the vote counted, she's won non-whites 53-44% Number23 Feb 2016 #25
Holy crap... Nyan Feb 2016 #29
If she wins Nevada by 4 points or so this is hardly correct. book_worm Feb 2016 #30
bernie! bernie! bernie!!!! kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #31
Polls wrong again. iandhr Feb 2016 #33
MSNBC says no wyldwolf Feb 2016 #34
Exactly! They said the prediction was wrong. pandr32 Feb 2016 #36
ouch youceyec Feb 2016 #35
That firewall seems to have a bit of retardant in it. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #38
Bernie just lost Nevada - HA! BeatleBoot Feb 2016 #39
Didn' t matter DownriverDem Feb 2016 #41
she won't win in november Robbins Feb 2016 #45
Who will the repubs run? DownriverDem Feb 2016 #49
Doesn't matter who they run, they'll turn out to vote against Hillary. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #52
The repubs will turn out in droves to vote down Clinton. Best you re-think your views. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #71
But he lost mainstreetonce Feb 2016 #42
He still won Latinos ram2008 Feb 2016 #43
Sorry but you are wrong.... Walk away Feb 2016 #70
Thank you Luis Gutierrez and Dolores Huerta. oasis Feb 2016 #44
when she is indicted I hope they remember this roguevalley Feb 2016 #69
Wrong. The firewall holds. bluestateguy Feb 2016 #46
Got a mighty crack in it though. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #53
its an open primary; probably Hispanic Republicans ericson00 Feb 2016 #47
Young Hispanics mainstreetonce Feb 2016 #48
Or Latinos who don't think kids should be sent back to send a message. nt artislife Feb 2016 #55
Bernie and his fans are the ones who agree with Trump on immigration, ericson00 Feb 2016 #59
Latina here, your misinformation doesn't work on me. nt artislife Feb 2016 #60
not the Clintonites on here who think undocs "depress wages." ericson00 Feb 2016 #61
there has to be something wrong with the numbers dsc Feb 2016 #54
Ok? Tarc Feb 2016 #56
Got a source on exactly how many % points that is? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #57
Because this means Bernie is competitive in big states ram2008 Feb 2016 #65
ABC confirms gyroscope Feb 2016 #58
I'm hoping cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #63
There is some questions as to if the exit wildeyed Feb 2016 #66
Exit polls are wrong when they don't favor your candidate gyroscope Feb 2016 #67
The only polls that count wildeyed Feb 2016 #68
This held with 98% reporting... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Feb 2016 #72
Aww the firewall held firm workinclasszero Feb 2016 #73
 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
3. I know a thing or two about firewalls.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

name bernie host 10.10.10.1
name hillary host 10.10.10.2
!
access-list outside_acl 10 permit ip host sanders any
access-list outside_acl 20 deny ip host clinton any log
!
access-list outside_acl in interface voters
!
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Amishman

(5,559 posts)
12. don't count your chickens before they're roasted
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:09 PM
Feb 2016

There is still time for conveniently mishandled coin flips and other freak occurances

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
19. You'd better WAKE UP DEMOCRATIC PARTY!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

There is a REAL anger out there about the Washington elite and corporate America's rigging the system for the privileged few. Do you really want Donald Trump to pretend he's the one who can fix that and dupe millions of fools in November? GO BACK TO THE PARTY'S NEW DEAL ROOTS before its too late!

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
22. You know Julian Castro is on speed dial
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:41 PM
Feb 2016

the last thing she needs is a bunch of Latinos going "ok, where is why chance to vote for someone based on identity?" Double this if the GOP rolls out Susanna Martinez from New Mexico, aka Chris Christie with a Spanish accent.

 

modestybl

(458 posts)
23. If that is even close, a big argument for "inevitability" breaks down...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:46 PM
Feb 2016

... for the HRC campaign.

Very good news.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
37. Yeah, I'm not sure that I understand this thread. Clinton is the projected winner in Nevada
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

Her "firewall" was with minority voters which she, according to the OPs own poll, won 53%-44% percent. And I think that this poll has some issues as none of the numbers in the racial identifiers have moved at all in the last 45 minutes. It's clear that the poll is still being updated/constructed.

So I'm not sure what all of the "whoohooing" is about. And the piling recs just make this even funnier.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
25. With only 37% of the vote counted, she's won non-whites 53-44%
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:52 PM
Feb 2016

But this poll looks poorly constructed and confusing. It's clear that they're not done putting it together and probably didn't realize that people would already be touting it with only 37% in.

For some reason there are two "Are you" bits that point to race. It says that 12% of the vote so far has been AA but it has 0% for both Sanders and Clinton.

pandr32

(11,605 posts)
36. Exactly! They said the prediction was wrong.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:27 PM
Feb 2016

In fact--she swept the casinos and the rest of Vegas, the rest of Clark County, and other areas with a major Hispanic population--with a small exception in Reno. Even the plan to have Republican students sign up and caucus for Bernie did not stop Hilary Clinton's momentum.

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
41. Didn' t matter
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

Union workers came through big time for Hillary. From the exit polls she won because she has the experience and will win in November.

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
49. Who will the repubs run?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016

More importantly, who will vote to end marriage equality, women's right to choose, ObamaCare, environmental progress/climate change, diplomacy before war mentality, ending Social Security (you better have kids with money), Medicare, Medicaid to name some of the differences between Dem and repub?

The people I know who would vote for that are old and shrinking in numbers daily.

You better re-think you views.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
71. The repubs will turn out in droves to vote down Clinton. Best you re-think your views.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:05 PM
Feb 2016

"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"

dsc

(52,166 posts)
54. there has to be something wrong with the numbers
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:16 PM
Feb 2016

and it would be most likely the Hispanic ones. I did some simple math and if you take .59*.47+.13*.76+.19*.45 you get only .46 which leaves her quite a bit short as she apparently won by at least 52 to 48. She would have had to win Asian and other by a 75% to 25% margin which I think is unlikely.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
56. Ok?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:18 PM
Feb 2016

Why is this a thing being upvoted, as Hillary won NV?

Keep in mind that at least a few of Sanders' % points are thanks to Republicans who commit election fraud;

Nevada Republicans eye electoral mischief in Dem caucuses

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
57. Got a source on exactly how many % points that is?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:20 PM
Feb 2016

Could just as easily be 0%.

I don't like numbers polled from my ass. you?

cannabis_flower

(3,765 posts)
63. I'm hoping
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

that's good news for Texas Sanders supporters. Texas is over 37.6% Hispanic, 45.3 white non-Hispanic, 11.8% African-American and 5.3% other.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
66. There is some questions as to if the exit
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:18 PM
Feb 2016

polls are correct. Remember, they are just polls..... The buzz on Twitter seems to be that either the Latino vote was closer than this OR Sanders did even worse in the AA precincts than we think.

Based on the results in Clark, the precincts in ELV, and the overall entrance poll error, I do not believe Sanders won the Hispanic vote.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/701167317900775425


And also, Clinton won, so I don't see any firewalls "berning" down.
 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
67. Exit polls are wrong when they don't favor your candidate
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016


by your logic the black exit polling that favored Hillary is also wrong.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
68. The only polls that count
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:32 PM
Feb 2016

favored my candidate.

Beyond that, I have no idea what you are talking about. All I pointed out is that smart people who do political numbers for a living are questioning the exit polls. YMMV.

72. This held with 98% reporting...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:24 PM
Feb 2016

...and hopefully will strengthen from here,
despite the usual attempts at division from the sleazebag express.

You can always fool some of the people...

Time will tell.

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