Obviously I support Bernie, but I don't think Clinton is unelectable, especially compared with Trump or Cruz. I would worry about Rubio or Kasich, but I'd worry about them if Bernie were the candidate too.

What I hope, if she's the nominee, is that she realizes that Bernie's message is a very very powerful one. I don't expect her to internalize it (she's lived the life she's lived for too long to fully understand what it's like for most people not in her orbit), but I hope she listens and at least does her best to represent those whom Bernie has always stood up for. I think she would.

And she understands that we need to address income inquality and political reform in a big way.

Her mom grew up poor and she grew up middle class. Her dad was a small business owner. She has LIVED it.

lib'rul ....far far away from bring a progressive.

She and Bernie agree on 93% of the time. Not good enough for the Puritopians

Hillary Clinton is funded by the same deep pockets as are the Republicans.
Hillary Clinton could have run on the Republican ticket and won the nomination there..Then she would have been right at home because she is a corporatist owned by the Banks,Wall St. Insurance Companies and her main sugar Daddy Golman Sachs

She is only progressive if you are a Wall Street banker.

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But Hillary is much more electable than Sanders.

She is not electable.
In your mind, and in the minds of many Democrats this may be so, but we have to consider the others in the general election.
This is a decision of who can win the general election, not whose turn it is to be president.

A win in Nevada would have helped tremendously, but we still have 47 states. It's not over yet.

she will probably beat Trump. An inoffensive guy like Kasich could beat her with white swing voters.

Cruz is the nominee.. he is the only one disliked enough to give Clinton a chance.

but some polls have cruz beating her.

well as keeping Republicans out of the WH. This sour grapes all or nothing shit is childish.

I'm hearing people won't do anything unless it is for Bernie. It's crazy.

Current polls don't mean diddly shit.

Hillary is flawed because of her Corporate ties...when 17-20% of Democrats that are progressive don't show up to vote then you keep on telling us Bernie Sanders is flawed...

You will Welcome a Donald trump to the White House. We can hold our nose and vote for Hillary if she should win the nomination but that wont be enough.

This forum is only about the primaries though.

We wish you "hillary progressives" would also work on getting congress back in the hands of TRUE liberals.

But we have a sinking feeling that you all are a-ok with corporare welfare and the banking system as it stands.

This get with our program or else is authoritative and perhaps, wishful thinking.

we did not need one man to tell us to do this. It is not "our program" and it ain't going to be Bernie's either. This nation is too diverse and pocked with conservative strongholds for us to succeed everywhere in the nation.

I am not a "hillary progressive" because I refuse to join in the hatred of a small digest in this election. I am going to work to keep the WH in November. I am going to work on some congressional races n the midterm. Save your sinking feelings for people you know- perhaps? It is not authoritative to say people who want a revolution need to also go out and start doing the work if they haven't. The majority of young people have not. I'm hoping it is now on their radar, but yeah- this might be wishful thinking on my part.

Just sayin'
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2016/01/07/debbie-wasserman-schultz-blames-voters-failures-democratic-party/

It will be a f#@%*^@ Republican because of her trustworthiness numbers.

Progressives like me will write in Bernie.

= votes for GOPers.

But you know that already.

and she will be toast.

She has no vision for the future.

The progressive voters that stayed home the last two elections and had found a candidate they would/could support in Bernie Sanders,well if he is not the nominee then they will stay home again because they cant stand the Clinton's ..Now that is sad but that is a fact.

They refuse to hear this, and it shall be their downfall.

It is the difference between being an adult, understanding the stakes, and understanding the hard work of governing versus being a little child who needs to be titillated into voting with big promises and "exciting" talk. Time to GROW UP!

Hardly.

That is why this country is where it is.

should be required to endure in one lifetime. A pox on both of those self-serving houses of crooks.

She's Republican Light and everyone knows what happens when Republican Light runs against a real Republican.

That's sad.

Goldman Sachs,Citi bank,JP Morgan.Bank America,Monsato..in order to run for President
Hillary Clinton could have shrugged off her Negatives from 2008 thru till 2015 and become a decent candidate..But instead she came into this race with the attitude of "By God this is my turn and I'm going to have so damn much Wall St no one can beat me"
She was wearing the crown before she earned it and she still hasn't but DWS keeps following her around carrying it for her..
Her voting record as you are referring too was always favoring Wall St,She voted against a bankruptcy bill (favoring the consumer)

She voted for the Iraq war not because of WMD..she voted along with Republicans that favored Cheney,Halliburton and the quest for more oil.....ever think of that..

This primary is not over and Hillary cant wear the crown yet even though DWS keeps holding it for her.

that's your language.

She represented New York, i.e., which includes big banks

Just like Bernie voted against gun control, because he is from Vermont....

She voted for inspections, just like Kerry did.

Everything else you are stating is stuff y'all keep saying and is nothing but demagoguery!

Hillary's votes on Iraq and the bankruptcy bill prove otherwise.

that RepubliCONs and independents do not like her, and will not vote for her?
Why do you folks ignore this fact?
This is a fight to win the presidency, not who is more popular with Democrats, or anything else.

would?

If he were the nominee?.... where 50% of US would NOT vote for a Socialist
and 42% won't vote for an atheist?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx

Poll: Most Americans unwilling to vote for a socialist
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-voters-socialist-atheist-catholic-119273#ixzz40kawBpua
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-voters-socialist-atheist-catholic-119273

If Sanders should win the primary. I see no way for him to win whatsoever. Interesting people think Hill is the unelectable one.

and don't want to admit that Sanders hasn't been vetted by neither the media
nor the GOP!

Hillary is vetted every day and has been for decades. Sanders, not much at all.

And all of it has NOT been vetted. That is our fear. She lies like a road, she has unresolved issues in congress. Her husband is Bill Clinton. Need I say more. The GOP would leave a death bed to vote AGAINST HilLIARy.

If you think Donald Dump won't bring back Monica, you are dreaming. I think The Donald may just have a reunion. How is that going to look? This IS politics today.

Bernie Sanders is NOT a socialist. He is a Democratic Socialist. There is a difference.
As a matter of fact, the American Public DID vote for a Democratic Socialist. The powers that be hated it so much that they wrote an amendment to the constitution against it, because he ran and WON FOUR TIMES. Can you say Frankllin Delano Roosevelt? The powers that be assassinated a couple would be Democratic Socialist when they had the Kennedys eradicated.
And what of the plane crash that took Paul Wellstone's life?
Also they a million people voted for a socialist while he was in jail. I don't believe that your history teachers told you about Eugene Debs, did they?

Sanders is NOT an atheist. He is a Jew. Though he does not hold strict to the practice, he still states that he is a Jew.

These polls are setup to get the answers that the powers that be want you to hear.

DO NOT BELIEVE THESE FREAKIN' LIES. They are nothing but lies!

He speaks of his spirituality being humanity, and has never said he believed in a traditional God, which makes him an atheist aka a humanist.

Considering that the GOP will not mince words on nuance, since Bernie was a Socialist before he was a Democratic Socialist, they will run with that. Obama wasn't a Socialist and they still ran with it, and questioned his faith, but because Obama was nowhere close to a Socialist and is of faith (instead they went back and forth between him being a Muslim and having "pastor" problems), their attacks didn't work on him as well.

Attacking Bernie as I predict would be closer to the truth than not, which is why, among other things, I consider him truly un-electable. If you find him electable, than that's your opinion, and has nothing to do with what I think.

Since these folks who you state will not vote for a Jewish Socialist, all worship one!

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if only a small number of dems stya home she is screwed.republicans hate her but independents don't like her.

your in delsional land polls keep showing republicans would beat her In november.

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You really are doing your candidate proud with that crap

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It is really interesting how you are telling me what I was saying or what I meant. I knew exactly what I said and what I meant.

What was the reason the OP thought why Hillary would lose?

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and go Green.

won't matter whether it is Hillary, if she is the Democratic nominee, or any of the republicans, and I would beg to differ.

I would also point out that the voting record between Hillary and Sanders is identical 90% of the time.

Regardless, thanks for giving me a straight answer without being rude

vote against the Republican via the Democrat. (And I will be very sad while I do, thinking of what might have been. I really wanted to vote _for_ someone for once!)

suggest.

I hear and understand your parenthetical statement, and would point out if Bernie is the nominee, Hillary supporters would not be happy also, but I believe would vote for the Democratic nominee for the same reason.

We will know at least by June where it will be

people can't stand the thought of him winning.

She has so much baggage and righties love to hate her.

that;s not what polls are showing at all.

Sanders would beat every Republican candidate head to head. Clinton would not.

whether that is right or wrong it is a fact.

Three right wing, Cruz appointments that will be in place for the next thirty years.

You will be voting for our nominee, won't you?

A Hindenburg/Titanic type of disaster. Completely turns off the left/liberal base. Zero appeal to independents, and the Repig base will do everything short of coming out of graves to vote against her. She's worth somewhere between 1 and 3 million additional Repig votes nationwide.

She will lead the party off a cliff to a Goldwater-like stomping.

How ironic.

The Clintons are such lousy politicians.


SARCASM

... and will stand firmly behind the nominee in the general.

And I am not gonna start being one now.

...is a 'loyalty oath" huh

where I come from ... stating that you will vote for the most progressive candidate is called being progressive ... unless of course you feel one of the republicans better represent your views, in that case your post makes sense

I will never vote for her.

why would she want votes from those called racists and sexists and who bill clinton called just like tea party.

Perhaps another candidate in the general will better meet your needs (Trump/ Cruz? Rubio?... an independent?). I am a progressive ... I will vote for the most progressive candidate in the general election .... that will be either Clinton or Sanders (like them both equally)

and i won't vote clinton eather.she is no progressive.

That is fine and that is your right.

The rest of us will fight for progressive causes and do what we need to do to keep a lunatic right-winger out of the white house.

You do whatever your conscience tells you is right

that is a joke.

Anyone can see that letting one of the GOP clowns win the WH is a huge, huge mistake, one that would do so much damage to this country it may take generations to undo the mess they would make. Just allowing them to pick 2 or more Supreme Court Justices would totally end any hope for change in this country.

I have the advantage (or disadvantage ) of liking our two main candidates equally and having equal concerns about each ... what I do feel passionately about is that they are both head and shoulders above the lunatics in the R clown car

If the candidate cannot entice and convince the
voters with policies they prefer, then it is
the candidate's fault if s/he loses.

You seem to want to turn democracy on
its head.

How happy are you going to be with a President Trump or President Cruz? How exactly are they going to enact anything you want? They will not increase the minimum wage? H wants $12. B wants $15. Would you rather have $7.25 or $12? Sitting out or voting third party tells me you prefer $7.25.

And they came running into say I was wrong. I really think this was their GE today. Congrats everyone. You won a state that was a layup that you turned into a three pointer

just sayin'.....

If she wins the nom. No Republican has even a tenth of her baggage and they will wipe the floor with her. Her being in the race will bring out more republicans than we have ever seen vote in any race ever, just to vote against her. And there is a feeling of apathy over voting for her so there will be fewer dems even bothering to show up to vote. If she wins, we all lose.

But I also think if that happens there really may be a real revolution and real change. If Clinton loses even the establishment will realize that a big change needs to happen within the Dem party if they hope to have a future. The old establishment will be dying out. They will have to appeal to the young. They are the future.

it's going to be trump and he will win.

the dem establishment doesn't care as long as they keep getting money from top 1% and they are happy.

they are risking with clinton total republican rule for years to come.with gerrymandering and citizen's united dems will never win
for years to come.

They will change drastically as it gets closer
None of them in the clown car can beat her

two serious investigations hanging over her
head.

Have we ever had a nominee who was under
FBI investigation? I don't know of anyone.

it's about data. From way back at the beginning, Bernie has been winning the heat-to-head polls against the GOP candidates. Hillary has been losing the head-to-head polls against the Republicans.
Those are the consistent poll results.
And they say SHE WILL LOSE against almost EVERY Republican candidate. This last poll she was ONE point over Trump but lost to everyone else. She even lost in the head-to-head against Bush.
Please no one needs to go too far into the weeds of "progressive" or any other topic, according to the American voters polled for MONTHS, she will lose.