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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:30 PM Feb 2016

THE OFFICIAL DOLORES HUERTA SUPPORT THREAD!

I stand with civil rights legend Dolores Huerta.



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Dolores Huerta has worked to improve social and economic conditions for farm workers and to fight discrimination. To further her cause, she created the Agricultural Workers Association (AWA) in 1960 and co-founded what would become the United Farm Workers (UFW). Huerta stepped down from the UFW in 1999, but she continues to her work to improve the lives of workers, immigrants and women.

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She has received many honors for her activism, including the Ellis Island Medal of Freedom Award (1993) and the Eleanor Roosevelt Award (1998). Huerta, mother of 11 children, was inducted to the National Women's Hall of Fame in 1993.

http://www.biography.com/people/dolores-huerta-188850



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THE OFFICIAL DOLORES HUERTA SUPPORT THREAD! (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 OP
Huerta is a hero. The attacks on her are disgusting.nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1
Her lies are more disgusting! angstlessk Feb 2016 #2
I wish she had not lied then Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #7
Indeed. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #10
She has had the decency to retract her statement. californiabernin Feb 2016 #56
She has already backtracked. bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #3
And you have people here still pushing the lie Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #8
No, she hasn't...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #66
I still support her Tom Rinaldo Feb 2016 #4
Another Civil Rights hero thrown under the bus! book_worm Feb 2016 #5
She lied. 840high Feb 2016 #59
Misunderstanding? Hissyspit Feb 2016 #6
^This^ nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #50
Someone chums the water with a bucket of turds whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #9
Oh shit... Purveyor Feb 2016 #13
It takes some fucking grapes. frylock Feb 2016 #42
Grapes - Hillary and supporters own the vineyard! yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #51
. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #11
Read SNOPES, she lied. But I guess you don't care. nt Logical Feb 2016 #36
Clintonistas attempting to gaslight reality itself again. Shandris Feb 2016 #12
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #14
not me SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #15
Huerta's quote is awesome. Too bad she didn't live up to it today. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #16
Oh that is so ironically funny. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #18
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service nc4bo Feb 2016 #17
This was alerted? Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #25
Must be the silly season I hear so much about Rose Siding Feb 2016 #37
Love her sister_rosa_refried Feb 2016 #19
It's a pretty bad falsehood she tweeted. Hissyspit Feb 2016 #24
being called out for posting lies Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #32
She lied to elect a woman President left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #20
K&R mcar Feb 2016 #21
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #22
Trying so hard melman Feb 2016 #23
A LEGEND! bravenak Feb 2016 #26
She lied. 840high Feb 2016 #61
Huerta Lied - Snopes Has Truth - You Tube Video Exposes Facts cantbeserious Feb 2016 #27
That really doesn't prove it wasn't said gwheezie Feb 2016 #33
Still Dreamin The Impossible Dream cantbeserious Feb 2016 #34
Wrong. ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #46
Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Differently cantbeserious Feb 2016 #47
The story that she lied is being debunked gwheezie Feb 2016 #28
Try again................ Logical Feb 2016 #30
nice story Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #35
She LIED, see this post...... Logical Feb 2016 #29
Snopes says she lied. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #31
Hell, yes... Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #38
And now Gaby Hoffman jumped in Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #39
She has been such a local hero -- Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2016 #40
This is really quite sad that people have no regard for the truth. frylock Feb 2016 #41
BS, you just stand with HRC, sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #43
MoveOn denounces Sanders Supporters Who Shouted Down Dolores Huerta (UPDATED) ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #44
Then why are you exploiting her right now for political gain? cui bono Feb 2016 #45
The pushback is way worse than the deed. ucrdem Feb 2016 #48
She lied and got caught, I say pile on the coals of shame. yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #52
The Sanders/Trump similarities are obvious. PM Martin Feb 2016 #49
It is a big big HUGE mistake to attack this lady. She has given blood, sweat and tears to the lunamagica Feb 2016 #53
She was Snoped and then backtracked. PonyUp Feb 2016 #54
She is great. Isn't it telling, however, how Clinton campaign degrades the icons who support it? highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #55
Video I've seen supports Huerta's account. yardwork Feb 2016 #57
k&r bigtree Feb 2016 #58
There is another video where you can hear clearly... Spazito Feb 2016 #60
I stand with civil rights legend Dolores Huerta as well! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #62
I've met and worked directly with Ms. Huerta. intheflow Feb 2016 #63
That is my experience as well. Vattel Feb 2016 #68
They had to find some way to discredit the vote in Nevada. McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #64
I admire her many years of activism democrattotheend Feb 2016 #65
DU rec... SidDithers Feb 2016 #67
K&R Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #69
Strawman post to divide Red Knight Feb 2016 #70
Anyone who uses this to disparage one of the most influential women of our lifetimes is an asshole. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #71
They say everyone has a price. We now know hers is $100 grand. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #72
An enthusiastic K & R Alfresco Feb 2016 #73
 

californiabernin

(421 posts)
56. She has had the decency to retract her statement.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

The attack was on what she did, not on her overall character and achievements. Really, caucuses need to go. so many potential problems.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
3. She has already backtracked.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:33 PM
Feb 2016

Now they just said "no no no". Seems to be a theme with a lot of these attacks on Bernie people. The lie always gets more press than the retraction.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
8. And you have people here still pushing the lie
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:36 PM
Feb 2016

But I guess I can't blame them, it's how Hillary raised them.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
4. I still support her
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:34 PM
Feb 2016

I just don't know if this claim that she made was accurate, totally wrong, or way exaggerated by emotions at the moment.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
6. Misunderstanding?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

Susan Sarandon ?@SusanSarandon 1h1 hour ago
.@AmericaFerrera I was there. Nobody frm Bernie's side said English only. Moderator did when no neutral translator was found@DoloresHuerta


https://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/civil-rights-activist-dolores-huerta-sanders-backers-shut-me-down-for-offering-spanish-translation/

“What happened is the person who was running the caucus said we need a translator and he said the first person that comes to the stage can be the translator,” she said. “So I walked up to the front and then some of the organizers, the Bernie organizers, decided to shout ‘no, no, no.’ Then a Bernie person stood up and said, I can also do translation. So then the person running the caucus said we won’t have a translator.”

snip

"A video posted online on Saturday purports to show Huerta being shouted down by Sanders supporters, but no “English-only” chants are distinguishable, although one person can be heard yelling, “Neutral.” Another person can be heard saying “Pero necesitamos Español” (“But we need Spanish”) from behind the camera, as well as, “It’s Dolores Huerta, my goodness.” The video can be seen below."

snip

"However, another attendee at the event has challenged Huerta’s statements. Erin Cruz told the fact-checking site Snopes that she was at the event along with members of a nurses’ union as well as actresses Gabby Hoffman and Susan Sarandon, and said that it was the moderator who asked for “English-only” during the event, and not any Sanders supporter. "

SNOPES: http://www.snopes.com/sanders-english-only-huerta/

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
9. Someone chums the water with a bucket of turds
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:36 PM
Feb 2016

y'all have an unhinged feeding frenzy smearing Bernie supporters, and now we're the ones who should be ashamed... Holy Moly

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
51. Grapes - Hillary and supporters own the vineyard!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:08 PM
Feb 2016

And the luggage store... perhaps the entire luggage factory.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
12. Clintonistas attempting to gaslight reality itself again.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:43 PM
Feb 2016

They think they're Eddie Murphy from Raw talking to Mr. T; once you see the video proof, they're going to whip out the Jedi Mind Trick.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
15. not me
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

not now

The time has come when you must stand against the system

Hillary supporters are on the wrong side of history

We have been given a choice and a chance

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
18. Oh that is so ironically funny.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016

Clintons sure are dragging a lot of otherwise good people down into the slime with them.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
17. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:53 PM
Feb 2016

On Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:35 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

THE OFFICIAL DOLORES HUERTA SUPPORT THREAD!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511291214

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is total bull shit and has been disproven, why keep posting flame bait that only devides use?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:51 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Yes, her claims that 'Sanders supporters were chanting English only' have been disproven, and she's even had to walk them back now thanks to multiple videotapes providing evidence, but if people want to 'support her', that's their business. Whatever.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Disingenuous. Ms. Huerta lied AND was caught lying. C_D knows this and is using this post as lowball attempt to stir shit. I fully expect jury to leave it since at face value it looks like a thread honoring an advocate for the human rights of immigrants. We see what you did here Cali.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
37. Must be the silly season I hear so much about
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:27 AM
Feb 2016

I stand with Huerta, Lewis, Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Campaign, Democratic Senators, Democratic Party, and

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
20. She lied to elect a woman President
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:58 PM
Feb 2016

That makes it OK in the Clintonista world.
i.e. The end justifies the means.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
33. That really doesn't prove it wasn't said
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:23 AM
Feb 2016

There were other people there who back Huerta as she recounted it.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
28. The story that she lied is being debunked
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:21 AM
Feb 2016

I'm at a bar on my phone so can't post links but I've read 2accounts from people who were there that back the original claim.

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
39. And now Gaby Hoffman jumped in
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:29 AM
Feb 2016

She was there with Susan Sarandon and she tweeted:

@AmericaFerrera @DoloresHuerta Also, & I noted this while there, the hill side was the one that applauded when he says english only.


Seems like Ms Huerta and Ms Ferrera should have sat on their tweets.
 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
40. She has been such a local hero --
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:29 AM
Feb 2016

so I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt that she honestly misheard/misinterpreted what was going on in the chaos.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
41. This is really quite sad that people have no regard for the truth.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:47 AM
Feb 2016

This is the Clinton campaign in a nutshell. Nothing of substance to be found, just personalities to get wrapped up in. You stand by her, and we'll stand with reality.

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
44. MoveOn denounces Sanders Supporters Who Shouted Down Dolores Huerta (UPDATED)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:55 AM
Feb 2016
“The room was divided with the Hillary people on one side and the Bernie people on the other,” Huerta said. “It was really unfortunate, because there were many Spanish-speaking voters, the casino workers. We wanted to make it more comfortable for them, so they could know what was going on.”

Delia Garcia, the woman who originally posted the video, told ThinkProgress she was with union members who needed a translator.

“We were with the Culinary Workers, and a good chunk of our supporters wanted a translator,” she said. “Dolores Huerta started going up there and Bernie supporters started booing, saying, ‘Don’t let her get up there.'”
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/02/sanders-supporters-shout-down-delores


So, apparently has Sanders Campaign. Can people stop calling this civil rights icon a "liar" now?

At the link

http://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/701215795938988032/photo/1

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
48. The pushback is way worse than the deed.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:59 AM
Feb 2016

Come on Bernie supporters don't do this to Dolores Huerta of all people.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
53. It is a big big HUGE mistake to attack this lady. She has given blood, sweat and tears to the
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:26 PM
Feb 2016

Latino community.

If you make Latinos choose between her and Sanders, he will lose by a mile.

yardwork

(61,690 posts)
57. Video I've seen supports Huerta's account.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

The moderator said "English only" and many in the audience cheered. That's what she says happened. That's what happened.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
58. k&r
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:41 PM
Feb 2016


Hesiod Theogony @Hesiod2k11
Cesar Chavez visits Dolores Huerta in hospital after she was beaten by police while protesting 1st President Bush

Spazito

(50,408 posts)
60. There is another video where you can hear clearly...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:53 PM
Feb 2016

"Bernie is English only" said more than once.

Here is the link, it is the third video clip down.

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/02/sanders-supporters-shout-down-delores

There is also a statement from the Sanders campaign which can be found at this link as well.

intheflow

(28,494 posts)
63. I've met and worked directly with Ms. Huerta.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:45 PM
Feb 2016

She's wonderful, but she's human. Humans make mistakes. And when they do, it's okay to call them on it. It doesn't mean the people holding them to accountability dismiss their entire life work and legacy. Honestly, this is what is most disturbing about Clinton supporters. The need to walk in lockstep, to never admit mistakes. the most mean-spirited things I've ever read on DU are coming out the mouths of Clinton supporters this primary season. Y'all have no grace or humility.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
68. That is my experience as well.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:57 PM
Feb 2016

No one on this site has more respect and admiration for Ms Huerta's years of activism than I do. But it is simply a fact that her statement about Sanders' record on immigration was patently and obviously unfair to Sanders. And she should delete her tweet about "English only" now that it has been shown to be mistaken.

If I treated her like some sort of saint that cannot be criticized I would be showing her less respect.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
65. I admire her many years of activism
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016

And I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt that she misunderstood what she heard yesterday. I do think she should clear up the record though. I also think she should have investigated more before posting that tweet. It is pretty absurd to think that people who are liberal enough to support Bernie Sanders would be the "English only" types in the way she implied. That alone should have made her pause before tweeting. But like I said, I give her the benefit of the doubt and don't believe she deliberately lied.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
67. DU rec...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:57 PM
Feb 2016

The Washington Post published more detail yesterday. She's not backtracking, and she sure-as-fuck sounds like she knows exactly what she heard.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/20/dolores-huerta-says-she-was-shouted-down-with-english-only-chants-from-a-sanders-crowd/

The Washington Post's Abby Phillip caught up with Huerta to find out what happened next.

"The person who was running the caucus ... people were saying we need a translator, so he said the first person that comes to the stage can be the translator," Huerta said. "So I went up to the front to be the translator."

The video above shows that her appearance onstage wasn't so well received. Some Sanders supporters may have been disturbed by the idea of a Clinton supporter interpreting events for the entire crowd. But that doesn't explain everything Huerta said she heard from the crowd.

"It was mostly the organizers," Huerta continued. "The Bernie organizers were shouting, 'No, no, no.' Then a Bernie person stood up and said said, 'No, we need to have it, I can also do translation' or whatever. The person who ran the caucus said, 'Well, we won’t have a translator.' The sad thing about this is that some of the organizers were shouting, 'English only! English only!' The Bernie organizers."

Again, this is what Huerta says happened when she tried to interpret from English to Spanish at a Nevada caucus site. The crowd apparently included a large number of Bernie Sanders supporters. And given that much of the Las Vegas strip's workforce is made up of Latino Americans and Latino immigrants, one would expect that some people in the crowd might have wanted to hear Huerta.

Instead, Huerta and actress America Ferrera, an on-the-record Hillary Clinton supporter, both tweeted that Huerta was shouted down with chants of, "English only!"


Sid

Red Knight

(704 posts)
70. Strawman post to divide
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:01 PM
Feb 2016

Certain posters do it over and over. They are only dividing and losing the support they'll need later. But keep going. See how that works out for ya.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
71. Anyone who uses this to disparage one of the most influential women of our lifetimes is an asshole.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

She's an honorable woman who has worked her entire life for civil and worker's rights. She was trying to make sure those who spoke Spanish knew what the fuck was going on.

If you find yourself questioning her integrity or accomplishments look them up.

She's a smart, honorable woman whose opinion I and all of us should respect.

If you start questioning where she "went wrong", wondering how she could ever support HRC, maybe instead you should question your own beliefs. Maybe you should examine what right wing bullshit you're buying into.

Maybe it's you.

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