However it's a moot point as she won't.

one who beats all of them. Numbers. They're your friend.

Chances are, she isn't going to get all of us in the end. Dirty politics turns voters off. She has only gotten worse with age, and she's forgotten that this is only the primary. NOT the GE. So NO, it's not about beating Bernie at all costs to prove you can beat Republicans. They already hate her, none of them will vote for her.

is like telling everyone on Wall Street to not worry, nothing will change. I will keep the Left under control so you can keep screwing over working-class and poor Americans (as long as the checks keep flowing in to the Clinton Global Slush Fund...).

Hillary needs the youth & progressive vote. Giving us the finger will eliminate any chance she has of winning in November.

We'll kick the shit out of any of the clown car kids.

Her donors are starting to disappear and her funds are starting to dry up. She didn't even bother with Colorado until the day of the Broncos parade, and you know that's on Feb 9th.

She won't win Colorado, Bernie has organized this state very well, and it will show.

We are also going to lose down ticket races. She is everything so many voters hate because they have not benefitted from the economic recovery. Then she shows disdain for poor people in her refusal to distance herself from Wall st. and build her own wealth as people suffer.

You can't be serious. The woman is unelectable.

and he's won by a margin larger than 6%. Still think she can beat him?

So far it seems yes she is, she has won 2 out of 3.

She actually won the popular vote in 2008.

They have both hands on the scale to bail out Hillary, and she still can't put Bernie away. She would get slaughtered in the general.

Sorry, but she just put him away today. You are delusional if you think Trump, Cruz or Rubio would beat her in the general.

That is a weird over-reaction. The primary turnouts so far indicate Republicans are more motivated than we are. We will need high turnout to win and I don't see that happening with Clinton. She probably would have won in 2008, had she won the primary, but I don't see it this year.

The standard democratic message is widely disbelieved now. The party approval rating is below water, the right way-wrong way numbers are 2-1 negative after 8 years of a Democratic president, generic Democrats in congress numbers are 2-1 negative. Hillary is a symbol of something most people have already rejected. We are counting on people to be more scared of the Republican than they are put off by the Democrat, and I don't think it will be enough.

Hell, I just want to see Hill eviscerate Trump in a debate.

as the polling indicates, winning enough swing states might be a tight margin. Bernie carries the independents easily, compared to Hillary. I expect down-ticket races fare better for the Democrats in the long-run, with Bernie at the top.

Both have different sets of pluses and minuses in the General.

Hillary is not a shoo in, neither is Bernie. Neither are either a guaranteed loss.

And much will depend on who the GOP ends up nominating.

He won't be around after super Tuesday though.

Cruze is an obvious nutbag and people will see through him (I hope).

But Rubio is slick and young and attractive and Latino, and he'd pull together the establishment and their more right wing elements.

Trump -- that's a whole different dimension. He scares me because he seems to b indestructible. Hopefuly America is smarter tyhan that, though I sometimes wonder.

Its why I pledge to vote for Bernie should he win.

she finished with barely 5.

She's not going to appeal to people who are fed up with the system.

They worked hard and it paid off. My person opinion is Hillary makes a better candidate but I would never complain about young people getting fired up and voting for their candidate.

She didn't 'beat' Bernie by much. NYT Headline: Clinton Prevails in Nevada, compared with the other headline: Trump wins and Bush is out. http://www.nytimes.com/?

everything outside of the democratic establishment is saying no to Hillary... It's going to be extremely hard for her, to be honest.

Democratic primary with 99% of the Democratic establishment -- including the supposedly neutral DNC -- pulling out all of the stops to tip the scales for her, she hasn't got a prayer in November where the RNC will be balancing out the DNC.

She cannot hope to win the general election, but she might possibly game the primary sufficiently to win the nomination and fumble the presidency to Rubio-Kasich.

But don't worry, Sanders will stop her, and -- if not -- Warren will win the presidency back in 2020.

I would vote for her in a New York minute if one of the GOPuke clowns was on the other side.

To beat Bernie and then look at how those play in the general.

Once she is the nominee, the whole M$M and its
repug supporters will make a big deal out of the
State department's and the FBI's investigations,
which will turn off voters.

Right now they keep quiet about it, but they are
just waiting for her nomination.

Don't take those investigations lightly. They are
far, far more serious than the stupid Benghazi
stuff.

coverage at CNN said that the GOP Establishment wanted Jeb to drop out but Ben Carson to stay in for as long as possible. He stated that the GOP knew that Jeb's votes would go to Rubio, but they didn't want Carson's votes to go to Cruz, so they wanted Carson to remain in the race just to keep those supporters from going to Cruz. And like the DOORMAT he is, I'm sure that Carson agreed, since they announced a little while later that Carson said he was staying in the race.

she could "easily" defeat the Republican nominee?

Independents who don't get to participate in the Democratic selection process
become a major factor.

In addition the winner needs to get the votes of the defeated candidate's supporters. A
tough acrimonious Democratic contest could result in a suppression of those needed votes.

Posted 2 days ago showing the results of a recent poll. It shows why Hillary would lose the general to EVERY GOP candidate, while Bernie would beat ALL of them:

situation. Hopefully this is settled soon and there's no indictment etc. The Republicans have a plethora of ammunition with these emails etc.

and the behavior of some of her supporters and surrogates....
I doubt she will be able to attract manu independent voters, or young voters...

Give her the coronation, and expect an onslaught...

She will let the GOP win. We need to get tough with her NOW before it's too late.

R's nominate Rubio or Trump. The hatred that Republicans have for Hillary assures a huge Repuke turnout if she's the nominee. Nothing motivates a Repuke more than the chance to vote against a Clinton.Her biggest problem would be winning back enough Bernie voters, including young Bernie supporters, and figuring out how to pick up the Independents in the swing states. Without them, she's done.

Because he is the only who will depress GOP turnout.

she had to cheat to "win" Iowa and NV. This is how she matches up against the repugs: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/18/1487044/-Qunnipiac-National-Poll-Bernie-beats-all-Republicans-Hillary-loses-to-all

If you want to beat them, VOTE BERNIE!

That might be a problem.

Sanders supporters are really not into responding to authority figures. So you can not assume they will "fall in line" for the general election.

Clinton's going to have to win them. And the scorched-earth campaign she is running will create so much animosity that she can not do that.

that doesn't inspire confidence. (She won Nevada in 2008, too.)

I'd question "not good enough" since going from 35 points down in December to within a few points difference in the third week of February clearly shows that the only reason he wasn't polling higher earlier was lack of national exposure. Hillary's been on the national stage for 25 years; people know who she is, and what she stands for, and have mostly made up their minds about her. Sanders? Not so much, although that's changed enough that the primaries are very far from over. (If you want to know what "not good enough" looks like? It's someone who's been handed the advantages of running as an incumbent by the DNC who still has to fight to get a close win.)

Everybody who has been in the public eye long enough has baggage. Hillary has enormous support and popularity. Otherwise she would be nowhere right now. I don't have a crystal ball, of course, but I'm not very concerned about the general, if Hillary is our nominee.

she has higher net negative favorability ratings than anyone on the Republican side except Trump and scores pretty low on "honest and trustworthy" in polling; I don't really see that as a winning ticket (unless Trump is the GOP candidate, and possibly not even then).

keeps winning. She won by a good margin last night and SC is expected to be a blowout. Personally I do believe she can beat any clown left in the car.

the system so desperate to prop her up right now, doesn't care whether it's has a Rubio or a Clinton, since neither of them is going to change anything.

Hillary's Flip Flops are no match for Trump's nastiness. She'll be crucified.

including inviting them to his wedding and stating Hillary is the most fabulous SoS evah, won't be brought up? ROFL

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can be lethal.

The youth will not show up for her, they re registered Democrat just to vote for Bernie, if they supported establishment Democrats they'd already be registered Dem. Independants will vote Clinton in FAR fewer numbers. She'll get no crossover vote from republicans. And she's burning her bridges with the traditional Democratic Left, who are already fed up with holding their noses every election. No kiss and make up there. She'll get much fewer votes than Obama, not going to win any swing states.

The repubs will go all out. And the Democrats will go meh. The independents will go to the movies instead.

You're not getting indys. You sure as hell aren't getting repubs. Good luck to you.

look at that map which shows which states are basically going to be contested. Hillary would need to win 23 of the contested 90 electoral votes. (Bernie too if he wins the nomination). Not quite a done deal, but you gotta like those odds.

rather than "Hillary's got this' if she is the candidate it'll be more like 'Hillary blew this'.

So which candidate (HRC vs BS) fares better in those states?

Thats a problem. She isn't inspiring people who were not already sold. Bernie and to s greater extent, Obama are both able to do that.

There has yet to be a single, authoritative explanation for WHY she set up a private email server. Her own story changed repeatedly, and the whopper about "no classified emails" has already been proven false by people who are apolitical or clearly outside of the control of the GOP. That is a crime, and ignorance of the law is no excuse.

I firmly believe that either Bernie or Biden will be on the ballot this November for the Democratic Party, at least if we have any hope of winning. If Bernie wins enough delegates, great, he'll have my vote. If Hillary has the delegates but is deemed unfit (post-indictment?) , I could see Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC power brokers pushing Biden to be the nominee. While I would prefer they tap the runner-up in such a scenario (Bernie), I respect Joe Biden and would probably wind up voting for him even though I'd still think the party machine screwed Bernie.

Bernie would win in November, and his head-to-head numbers vs potential GOP candidates are better than HRC's in EVERY recent poll I've seen. I think Biden would win as well, as his name recognition and personal story would prove compelling (although the youth/progressive support would probably lag Bernie's).

On the other hand, Hillary's negative are off the chart with independents and Republicans. I don't expect any Democratic candidate to win on the strength of GOP support, but independent voters are critical in November, and Hillary is a train wreck with these voters. And with her 25+ years in the spotlight and 100% name recognition, she's not changing anyone's perception of her. People perceive her as dishonest, untrustworthy, and greedy. And in her case, perception is as good as reality when it comes to a general election just a little more than 8 months away.

NH Bernie by 22%
NV Hillary by 3.8%

Hillary cant beat Trump There are progressivess 17-20% and Union members that will not vote for Hillary..never mind they are voting for a National Right to Work Law with Trump

She has more baggage than all of the republican contenders combined. They will use it to mop the floor with her. In addition she will bring out more republicans than we have ever seen just to vote against her. She brings a feeling of apathy, at best to the dems. They will show in fewer numbers than ever seen.

She will cause president tRump.

Congrats to you all
If she wins the primary, we lose the generAl and many people cannot survive that.

...not that I am pleased about that fact, but it is a fact. So, no, I don't know better.

I don't think Bernie is going to be the nominee. At this point, the math and the Dem establishment still favors Hillary, Bernie has an uphill battle. If Bernie somehow pulls it off, November will be a piece of cake by comparison, because outside the Dem base, he polls much better against the Republicans than Hillary does. We're in the unfortunate position that our weaker general election candidate is likely to win the nomination.

Given the choice between a Republican, or a Democrat who acts like a Republican, Independents will vote for the Real Republican every time.

especially Trump or Rubio. The same party rarely holds the WH for 3 terms. I would underestimate Trump. If he gets nominated
he won't be talking crazy stuff, that's what you have to do to be the Republican nominee. I think he will switch to saving SS, Medicare,
wage inequity and of course Obamacare.

I will write in Bernie in the General election.