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You know the majority of young people aren't into race being used as a divisive tool. (Original Post) Skwmom Feb 2016 OP
Count me amongst them. Fearless Feb 2016 #1
Some of us are better than that. Some of us have run two Presidential campaigns that are less merrily Feb 2016 #2
Hillary earned her 67% not honest and trustworthy rating jfern Feb 2016 #8
Us old folks hate it but Rebkeh Feb 2016 #3
Huh? gwheezie Feb 2016 #4
No, that's not what I took it to mean Rebkeh Feb 2016 #5
People don't support dirty tricks? alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #10
Yes, thank goodness. nt Rebkeh Feb 2016 #13
No, the point is let's not exploit it as Hillary and so many on here do. cui bono Feb 2016 #6
It's shocking and shameful. She should NEVER be in a position of power or authority again... AzDar Feb 2016 #7
Tell us more about the young people, Skwmom alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #9
We're getting close to Marion Berry territory here. HassleCat Feb 2016 #11
Actually, to be frank, I'm a millenial NuclearDem Feb 2016 #12

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
1. Count me amongst them.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:53 AM
Feb 2016

We're better than that. Well evidently Hillary isn't as shown in 2008 and 2016... But liberals are.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Some of us are better than that. Some of us have run two Presidential campaigns that are less
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:56 AM
Feb 2016

than that.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
3. Us old folks hate it but
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:59 AM
Feb 2016

"that's politics" or "it's a blood sport" - "life isn't fair" is how we were raised. "There's no crying in baseball!" I've heard it a hundred times, "That's how the game is played and it's just the way it is."

WRONG

That's the way it is because we allow it to be. We reward it, even. No more.

The young people know. And I'm with them on this one.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
4. Huh?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:59 AM
Feb 2016

Wow, blm seems to be full of people who see a racial divide in this country. Did you mean to say let's not talk about it?

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
5. No, that's not what I took it to mean
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:02 AM
Feb 2016

Dirty tricks using race to make someone appear racist is not the same thing.

We ain't fooled. We see it.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. People don't support dirty tricks?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016

Whew. Thank goodness for the young people, and their principled stance against dirty tricks.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
6. No, the point is let's not exploit it as Hillary and so many on here do.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:21 AM
Feb 2016

It's a serious issue that should not be used as a political football.

.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
11. We're getting close to Marion Berry territory here.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:29 AM
Feb 2016

People were always amazed he could get elected after being exposed as corrupt, convicted of crimes, etc. "How does he do that?" Berry used an interesting mix of racial and economic politics. For the racial part, he convinced his constituents, sometimes in not very subtle ways, that he was the only thing standing between them and the white man, and the white man would take way all they had gained if they did not elect Berry to protect them. The economic part was a simple combination of patronage jobs and government contracts. The funny part of this is that he was not being entirely dishonest. The people he represented were poor and black, many of them relegated to a permanent underclass in a system that depended on being served by a permanent underclass. So there was some justification for what Berry did, even though it seemed divisive at the least, outrageous at the worst.

When candidates start exploring racial politics, they need to be careful. Most constituencies are not like Marion Berry's, and they don't benefit from using race as a wedge issue. Having all the black or Latino voters on your side is a good thing, but not if you have to alienate non-minority (white) voters by relentlessly hammering on the theme that there is only one candidate who can claim a legitimate lock on black voters, Latino voters, etc. Of course, minority voters may feel taken for granted if they hear too much of this. There is a fine line here, and I can't tell you where it is, and it's probably different for different people.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
12. Actually, to be frank, I'm a millenial
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:33 AM
Feb 2016

and a disturbing number of people in my generation are notoriously deluded into believing they're "colorblind", and ironically, they tend to be even more destructive towards POC than their parents.

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