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oh08dem

(339 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:45 AM Feb 2016

I would assume a seriously flawed candidate like Hillary

would be wary of using shady campaigning tactics, especially considering she'll need essentially all of those affected by said shady campaigning in November.

Think about it Clinton supporters, just how many independents will you guys be able to convert in November? My guess is not very many. Even if it's against Trump, is it possible to say they might be so dissatisfied with the choices they'll just stay home? On the other hand Hillary will motivate a very strong GOP turnout no matter which clown they decide to put up. This is where the argument "But they'll make sure to vote against the socialist", yes, you're correct, with one caveat THEY THINK EVERY DEMOCRAT IS SOCIALIST ANYWAYS!

They don't see shades of blue like most of us here, to them Joe Manchin is on par with Bernie Sanders. The thing, fair or not, that makes them have a ragegasm most is the Clinton name and that can't be changed, denied, or swiped under a rug somewhere. So please remember us unicorn-loving-living-in-the-basement-fringe-kooks come November, because I'm sure she'll need US, not vice versa.

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I would assume a seriously flawed candidate like Hillary (Original Post) oh08dem Feb 2016 OP
They don't care. Bernie opposes the status quo. They want him to lose. Anything beyond that is gravy GoneFishin Feb 2016 #1
Left leaning independents will turn out for Hillary. leftofcool Feb 2016 #2
Vote for? Probably. Turn out for? No evidence of that. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #6
Yes she will need you. fun n serious Feb 2016 #3
She should start acting like it. Kittycat Feb 2016 #5
Shady campaign tactics are her bread and butter. bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #4

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. Left leaning independents will turn out for Hillary.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:47 AM
Feb 2016

Plus 87% of Democrats, AA's, Latinos, and a freeking ton of women. I don't see a problem.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
4. Shady campaign tactics are her bread and butter.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:50 AM
Feb 2016

And she has the media on her side. Sanders is defying all odds by keeping this race competitive. If we can just turn this narrative against the campaign actually propagating it, we'll win hands down.

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