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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:10 AM Feb 2016

The sleaze that went on in Nevada is going to catch up to Hillary. Her campaign is doomed.

I see right through the time-worn act of the Clintons' use of surrogates to smear and viciously attack opponents, while they pretend to be above the fray, smug and holier than thou. (As if they even have a leg to stand on!) She doesn't have a 55% unfavorable rating for nothing.

But the young and connected have her number, and will continue spreading the truth about their never-ending lies. And none of this takes into account the very real federal case growing against her.... South Carolina may well be her last hurrah.

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The sleaze that went on in Nevada is going to catch up to Hillary. Her campaign is doomed. (Original Post) reformist2 Feb 2016 OP
Much of a muchness, as the old saw goes. Nt Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #1
she should pray that every caucus runs flawlessly because roguevalley Feb 2016 #19
Keep dreaming! leftofcool Feb 2016 #2
She won Nevada last time, too (2008)... dchill Feb 2016 #3
EVENTUALLY, But Perhaps NOT Soon Enough The CORRUPTION Will Catch Up With Her... CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #8
Her plan to divide us based on race needs to be hammered home. bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #4
You sound like a Republican Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #34
Her poll numbers always go down... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #5
And the Worse Nightmare... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #26
The young and connected ? drray23 Feb 2016 #6
Hillary is single digits away from going under. The trend is not her friend. reformist2 Feb 2016 #11
oh if you refer to the graph showing drray23 Feb 2016 #14
I wonder if SC will surprise us. Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #7
the constant negativity wore me out in January oldandhappy Feb 2016 #9
You don't say....... Beacool Feb 2016 #10
OFFS! MohRokTah Feb 2016 #12
I think it's to damage Sanders but also distract from their cheating. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #13
I Was Away All Day And Wasn't Able To Listen To Any Primary Coverage Today..... global1 Feb 2016 #15
It's nuanced so best if you take the time to read through some threads. JimDandy Feb 2016 #28
Nice summary there, thank you! peacebird Feb 2016 #37
Getting desperate I see workinclasszero Feb 2016 #16
Hillary has to thank Harry Reid and the Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #17
That's How Nevada Works.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #25
is there something wrong with giving employees time to caucus 6chars Feb 2016 #27
Voting Laws cover Caucus's and regular Elections. Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #35
Didn't Sanders use Cornell West, someone who called Obama some form of the N-word?! tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #18
Yes, and he also has at least one Super PAC backing him up jmowreader Feb 2016 #23
And didn't he murder a hobo once? bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #29
Not that I know of, but anything is possible jmowreader Feb 2016 #30
No, that was Abe Lincoln who did that... Sanders ran over a cat tail uponit7771 Feb 2016 #31
Don't forget the perpetual victim act Lorien Feb 2016 #20
Ok. n/t zappaman Feb 2016 #21
I loath her campaign. It is putrid. cali Feb 2016 #22
Your Post... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #24
no it won't Robbins Feb 2016 #32
you referring to the endorsements by Jim Clyburn and Dolores Huerta? DrDan Feb 2016 #33
HIllary and the right wing dem establishment Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #36

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
19. she should pray that every caucus runs flawlessly because
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:13 AM
Feb 2016

with her negatives all the blame will be on her. Like it or not, she can only create more enemies with her antics. Also, RELEASE THE SPEECHES! I want to hear how 'gushy' she was, 'like a manager'.

dchill

(38,516 posts)
3. She won Nevada last time, too (2008)...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:16 AM
Feb 2016

And by a smaller margin. The HRC fans know this, too. I can smell the fear.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
8. EVENTUALLY, But Perhaps NOT Soon Enough The CORRUPTION Will Catch Up With Her...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:19 AM
Feb 2016

CORRUPTION... It is associated with EVERYTHING SHE DOES... and these fools are going to continue supporting such a FATALLY flawed candidate?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511292568#post5

Above is Delores Huerta Foundation Receiving $100k from Clinton Foundation in 2010

See pdf page 34... There it is! http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990pf_pdf_archive/300/300048438/300048438_201012_990PF.pdf

Hillbots could care less how CORRUPT are the Clintons... pitiful

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
4. Her plan to divide us based on race needs to be hammered home.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:17 AM
Feb 2016

She is no ones friend, regardless of race. This is the last straw for me.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
34. You sound like a Republican
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:22 AM
Feb 2016

They're always accusing Obama of dividing the country on race.

I don't see how Hillary is dividing us on race, just because Bernie is not making enough inroads in the African American community.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. Her poll numbers always go down...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:17 AM
Feb 2016

...every election. She has the highest dishonesty and negative rating of any candidate in either party. She loses to every single Republican in a head to head matchup. No candidate with those negatives has won a GE. Her supporters are deluding themselves. Fortunately, the November disaster is entirely on their shoulders. They're gonna eat this one.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
26. And the Worse Nightmare...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:45 AM
Feb 2016

Rubio is creeping up on Trump -- the other nightmare. If the Democrats nominee anyone but Bernie - I'm preparing in advance of the last years of any type of Democratic Leadership for the 99% in America - as Hillary will lose. She can cheat but getting past her obvious negatives will not work when America votes in November.

Save Progressive Principles by Standing with Bernie or we all lose as Hillary cannot win the general.

drray23

(7,637 posts)
6. The young and connected ?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:17 AM
Feb 2016

Who did not even bother to show up ? The turnout was lower than 2008. Keep dreaming, the revolution is in the ditch.

drray23

(7,637 posts)
14. oh if you refer to the graph showing
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:27 AM
Feb 2016

that Hillary and Bernie's lines where about to "cross", yes the trend was for Bernie. I think that after her Nevada win and very likely south Carolina win, she will have stopped Bernie's momentum and reversed the trend. I guess we will see in less than a month.

global1

(25,263 posts)
15. I Was Away All Day And Wasn't Able To Listen To Any Primary Coverage Today.....
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:34 AM
Feb 2016

can someone take me through the 'sleaze that went on in Nevada'? What shenannigans went on?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
28. It's nuanced so best if you take the time to read through some threads.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:22 AM
Feb 2016

Read, Read, Read
Come and read with me,
Open your eyes,
Open your mind,
Come and read with me.

That's the opening song at the preschoolers' storytime at my local library. I take my granddaughter every week and this song came to mind (I must have unconsciously memorized it!)

Until you catch up on the reading here is the out-takes version of one of the Sleaze episodes (quotes indicate gist only-not exact speech)

Dolores Huerta at NV caucus: "I'll translate in Spanish."
Caucus attendees: "No, you're here stumping for Clinton-you're not a neutral party."
Dolores Huerta Tweets: "Bernie Sanders supporters shouted at me to speak in English only."
Susan Sarandon: "Not true. I was there. The moderator said English Only"
Video appears online in which SBS supporters at that caucus are calling for a neutral translator.
SBS supporters online: Huerta tweeted a lie.
Dolores Huerta: I might have made a mistake
DUSS: Dolores Huerta Foundation recently received 100K from the Clinton Foundation
DUCS: That was not a bribe!


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
17. Hillary has to thank Harry Reid and the
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:36 AM
Feb 2016

Head of the Culinary Union. Old Harry made a few calls to the Casino owners letting their employees take time to caucus and the rest is a slime victory for Ms. Clinton. Remember,Reid and other top Dems do not want Mr. Sanders as their Party Standard Barrier.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
23. Yes, and he also has at least one Super PAC backing him up
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:30 AM
Feb 2016

Oh, and the 900-person list of people who overdonated to his campaign? Not to mention the front group popularly called "Bernie Bros" that does all Sanders' dirty work for him? The more you look at Bernie's campaign, the less you like him.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
29. And didn't he murder a hobo once?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:26 AM
Feb 2016


Now the Bernie Bros are a front group? I think I've heard everything. Bernie is practically Al Capone.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
30. Not that I know of, but anything is possible
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:33 AM
Feb 2016

However, I DO have the transcript of a speech Bernie is going to wish he never made:

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/sanders-remarks-on-complementary-and-alternative-health-care

He gave the opening remarks at a Vermont quack conference in 2010. He's ALSO the guy who shoved coverage for naturopathic practitioners into Obamacare...in other words, your healthcare premiums are going to people who practice homeopathy.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
20. Don't forget the perpetual victim act
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:24 AM
Feb 2016

they may "win" a few battles, but there's no doubt that they'll lose the war.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
24. Your Post...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:40 AM
Feb 2016

To God's or a Higher Power Ears...

Let's hope South Carolina is the last Firewall as I'm beyond sick and tired of hearing about all things Clinton. It is time for establishment politics to go the way of cow manure.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
32. no it won't
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:19 AM
Feb 2016

the fix is in.the establishment won't let her lose.they don't care if dems lose in november as long as bernie loses and she is nominee.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
33. you referring to the endorsements by Jim Clyburn and Dolores Huerta?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:19 AM
Feb 2016

you referring to their "smearing" and "never-ending lies"?

"last hurrah" in SC?????? This is sarcasm, right?

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
36. HIllary and the right wing dem establishment
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:29 PM
Feb 2016

are as sleazy and you always knew they were. We're just seeing more proof of it lately.

If the "leadership" pf the Dem party continues with this garbage they are going to find themselves all alone at some point.

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