A rare breed

Systems are amoral.

Saying "the system has no soul" is redundant.

if corporations are amoral and the system is amoral... how is it that the system -- whose contours are largely defined by the preferences of supposedly amoral multinational corporations -- so often produces immoral outcomes?

is it amoral to outsource jobs to the cheapest, least-protected labor forces available? is it amoral to dump toxic waste in the ground, water, and air? is it amoral to foment and fund climate change denial? is it amoral to install defeat devices in diesel emissions systems?

is it amoral even to profit?

profit means getting more than you've given.

are corporations really amoral?

Systems and corporations are not immoral. Morality is up to the people who move the corporations and systems.

Someone who is completely disaffiliated from the rampantly immoral people who run corporations?

You've just hit the nail on the head of my primary reason for supporting Hillary. I chose the most moral candidate in the field.

The most moral candidate in the field names climate change as the greatest threat to our nation and indeed our planet.

The most moral candidate in the field voted against the Iraq War.

The most moral candidate in the field devoted his life to helping the poor.

The most moral candidate in the field is not a flagrant, high-flying, elitist millionaire nor has he ever been on the board of Walmart.

The most moral candidate in the field was arrested at 21 protesting against segregation.

Bernie's morals are much closer to my own.

On everything but the definition of morality it seems we agree!

I consider Hillary Clinton the most moral person running for president.

I have a very low opinion of Sanders' morality.

Let's hear your evidence

I am as entitled to mine as you are to yours.

Ethical tone starts at the top and pervades any organization. Through the collective decisions and actions of its members, management, etc. Denying ethical responsibility by blaming our actions on the system we're in, of whatever kind, is often used to relieve each of us for individual responsibility.

The soulfulness or soullessness of these systems are entirely dependent on the people who comprise them and/or construct them.


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