2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRemember the time that Hillary implied assassination as a reason for her to stay in the 08 race?
Hillary Clinton today cited the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy during the 1968 presidential campaign to explain why she was remaining in the race despite long odds."We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California," Clinton told the editorial board of a South Dakota newspaper. " I don't understand it," Clinton added, alluding to the calls for her to quit.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0508/Hillary_cites_RFK_assasination_in_explaining_why_shes_still_in_race.html
She has always been such a class act and HUGE supporter of Obama...
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Hated it then, hate the divisiveness now.
azmom
(5,208 posts)There is really no excuse for that. I remember the real fear that Obama would be assassinated before being allowed to be the first black president.
It's really unforgivable.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)...she was in it for herself, and damn the party.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Likewise, what she is doing in this election.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)I mean, Obama could have been assassinated, right?
Then, the country would have been in a real mess. So she was just being patriotic and thinking of what was best for America. A very selfless gesture.
This is for Clinton supporters and other impaired readers.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)a question for me. If either one of the candidates
wins at the convention and something happens
to that candidate, what then?
Is there any known protocol for this?
Wilms
(26,795 posts)However, one vice-presidential candidate died after he was nominated, but before the general election, and another dropped off his party's ticket.
The procedures for finding replacements for candidate vacancies are guided by federal and state laws and party regulations. They are not exactly a patchwork, but they have evolved in response to practical problems that have arisen during the presidential elections, and in response to the growth of political parties as integral players in the election process.
http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/20431
But it looks like there's one thing wrong, a nominee did die in 1872.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1872
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)It looks like it would create a mess.
Let's hope that nothing like that will happen.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)But last week, prior to Nevada, Clinton stated in the town hall that she needed to start focusing on the GE. Basically saying the field needed to be cleared so she can "save us" from the republicans.
It was another wtf moment for me, in a tied race she wants the field cleared.
One more insight into her mindset. She expected to be anointed and by this time her expectations were that her team could be doing op research for the GE and she could go on a tour of the primary states rallying the support of her troops.
Displays a poor ability to foresee potential events and a poor ability to manage variables.
Edit to add transcript
TODD: And when I'm talked about -- asked you about your first 100 days priorities, you've mentioned a lot of issues, and you haven't put immigration reform first. And some immigration reform advocates are concerned that if you don't put it first, that the same thing that happened in '07, the same thing in '10 -- how do you prevent that if you don't make it first? As you know these legislative lifts are hard? And the concern is if it's not first, it may not happen. What do you say?
CLINTON: Well, when we both had a chance to vote on comprehensive immigration reform in 2007, the bill that Senator Ted Kennedy championed, I voted for it; Senator Sanders voted against it. So I know how important it is to put together a coalition.
If I'm fortunate enough to get the Democratic nomination, I will immediately begin working on the priority legislation that I want the Congress deal with right away, and immigration reform will be among those issues.
(APPLAUSE)
Now for me the way that Congress works, and I think my friend Congresswoman Marcia Fudge is here somewhere.
(APPLAUSE)
CLINTON: There she is. Thank you.
The way that the Congress works, there are a bunch of committees, and the committees have different jurisdiction. So if you're dealing with immigration reform you go to one committee, if you're dealing with equal pay for women you go to a different committee.
So what I want do is get my priority legislation ready to go, begin working even with Democrats in the Congress during the general election. I also want to do that for nominations, because I want to get the judges I want to appoint, I want to get the other important officials appointed.
So I'm not going to waste a minute. That's why I want to get this nomination as quickly as possible so I can gets to work on being your president.
(APPLAUSE)
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)did she really say that? She couldn't have said that. Really??
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)It does leave wiggle room, but compare it to comments made by Obama in spring of 2008, it was always something along the lines that this will be a contest all the way to the convention, by contrast she needs this locked up quickly. A statement like that on its own is questionable, based upon past history it is offensive.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Thank you.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)By Robert Parry
May 25, 2008
Hillary Clintons comment, referencing Robert Kennedys 1968 assassination to explain why shes continuing her campaign, may serve as a crass punctuation point for the end of a grim period in American history, the Bush-Clinton era.
This period roughly marked by George H.W. Bushs rise as Vice President and then President from 1981 to 1993, Bill Clintons embattled two terms, and then eight years under George W. Bush represented an extraordinary period of lost opportunities for the nation as its global power peaked and began a rapid descent.
Notable for its bitter partisanship, mindless jingoism and willful historical amnesia, this era saw the United States fail to address its bloated energy consumption, reverse the decline in its manufacturing base, stop the erosion of the middle class, provide universal health care for its citizens and wisely deploy its military might.
So, on one level, the Democratic presidential battle has been a struggle over whether Democrats want to revert back to their brief hold on the White House in the 1990s (by picking Hillary Clinton) or strike off in a new direction (by nominating Barack Obama).
Early on, some Democrats told me they supported Sen. Clinton because her election would repudiate the Bush family and its nasty brand of politics. They envisioned a hard-working and battle-tested President Hillary Clinton completing some of the reforms that Republicans thwarted in the 1990s.
However, other Democrats have come to see the Clintons as less a cats-and-dogs enemy of the Bushes than two sides of the same coin, a kind of duopoly that is more common in Third World nations where two ruling families trade power back and forth without disrupting the power structure. In this view, Bill Clinton essentially earned his bones with the Bush family in 1993 when he swept a dustbin full of Republican scandals under the rug including the Iran-Contra Affair, Iraq-gate and the October Surprise question.
President Clinton may have thought he was being responsible and buying some bipartisan peace. But he actually cemented an incomplete and false history of the Reagan-Bush period, thus denying the American people a thorough understanding of what their government had done over those dozen years.
more at link --> https://consortiumnews.com/2008/052508.html
John Poet
(2,510 posts)that Hillary is forcibly removed from the race....
... in handcuffs, by Federal marshals.