2016 Postmortem

reformist2

(9,841 posts) Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:42 AM Feb 2016

The superdelegates aren't even a "select few" - there are 750 of them!

And if they decide to act together, as they are doing this year, that's a huge voting bloc!!!

It really can't be repeated enough... super-delegates have no place in any institution that would call itself "democratic". They need to go.

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The superdelegates aren't even a "select few" - there are 750 of them! (Original Post) reformist2 Feb 2016 OP

Just call them "super-citizens" targetpractice Feb 2016 #1

This is the precise situation that they were created for. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #2

You know if they want to have a way to break a tie, assuming we ever have one at the convention... cascadiance Feb 2016 #3

Keep spreading that idea of a collective ONE DELEGATE vote. edgineered Feb 2016 #5

Superdelegates include high-powered lobbyists, and consider them to be Dem Party Insiders. earthshine Feb 2016 #4

750 of 6+ Billion Renew Deal Feb 2016 #6

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)

1. Just call them "super-citizens"

Reply to reformist2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:47 AM

Feb 2016

Our system of government is is cultivating a variety of super-citizens whose voting power is greater than regular citizens... For example, the wealthy, corporations, etc.

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)

2. This is the precise situation that they were created for.

Reply to reformist2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:47 AM

Feb 2016

If Bernie can win, he can change it.

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)

3. You know if they want to have a way to break a tie, assuming we ever have one at the convention...

Reply to reformist2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:01 AM

Feb 2016

... here's a better idea on how to use superdelegates to do this, to more preserve the power of the votes of the people.

How about all of these superdelegates (and there should be an odd number of them by design) vote amongst themselves on who they support for those tied at the top if that situation happens. That way, the establishment could have a collective ONE DELEGATE vote to decide what happens in the case of a tie!

Doesn't that sound a bit more democratic than the current system? So superdelegates could provide a "tie-breaking" service, and get a free trip to the convention in effect. But as far as being able to collectively have their set of votes count to the same degree as several states voting bodies, when they themselves are a fraction of those people, that then wouldn't happen!

edgineered

(2,101 posts)

5. Keep spreading that idea of a collective ONE DELEGATE vote.

Reply to cascadiance (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:45 AM

Feb 2016

How about all of these superdelegates (and there should be an odd number of them by design) vote amongst themselves on who they support for those tied at the top if that situation happens. That way, the establishment could have a collective ONE DELEGATE vote to decide what happens in the case of a tie!

Great idea!

earthshine

(1,642 posts)

4. Superdelegates include high-powered lobbyists, and consider them to be Dem Party Insiders.

Reply to reformist2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:34 AM

Feb 2016

The party is run by big money. There's little democracy within the Democratic Party.

These two videos by Thom Hartmann describe the situation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511274866

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017331250

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)

6. 750 of 6+ Billion

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Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:33 AM

Feb 2016

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