2016 Postmortem

TDale313

(7,820 posts) Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:16 AM Feb 2016

So, what forward progress would we expect under a Hillary Presidency?

Where would she spend political capital to try and get something positive accomplished?

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So, what forward progress would we expect under a Hillary Presidency? (Original Post) TDale313 Feb 2016 OP

I heard something about coal workers at the Wisconsin debate, but who know's if they'll still Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #1

As in safety protections? That'd be good if so. n/t TDale313 Feb 2016 #2

I don't believe it for a minute Rebkeh Feb 2016 #6

Not a lot of takers. CentralMass Feb 2016 #3

Don't expect an answer... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #4

happy hours in homeless shelters ? olddots Feb 2016 #5

***crickets*** snot Feb 2016 #7

ACP, an affordable inequality-cutting education subsidy ptogram ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #8

NO WE CAN'T! Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #9

We'll finally get that desperately needed flag burning law passed? Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #10

Watch pretty much any speech or town hall. She is pretty specific. n/t Lucinda Feb 2016 #11

YOU get a no fly zone! And YOU get a no fly zone! DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #12

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)

1. I heard something about coal workers at the Wisconsin debate, but who know's if they'll still

Reply to TDale313 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:18 AM

Feb 2016

rate after the votes are cast.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)

2. As in safety protections? That'd be good if so. n/t

Reply to Ed Suspicious (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:22 AM

Feb 2016

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)

6. I don't believe it for a minute

Reply to Ed Suspicious (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:01 AM

Feb 2016

The lobbyists and operatives for coal are just as connected as any of the others. It's all a big clique and she's part of it. Even if she could triangulate something resembling progress, it wouldn't be without a very steep price. Who would pay that price? You. Me. The middle class, the poor and the powerless.

Theoretically, she could get a few things through but it would be transactional and dirty, and not necessarily for the little guy. You can always be sure that results would benefit her and her friends first. That's the problem, she's a great fighter but she is not very loyal or trustworthy to those of us that won't have anything to offer. Even if we had a place at the table, we don't have anything to bring to it. Without trust, what is there?

Which reminds me -- we have supposedly pulled her to the left. Why on earth would anyone believe she would stay there?

It boggles my mind.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)

3. Not a lot of takers.

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Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:29 AM

Feb 2016

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)

4. Don't expect an answer...

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Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:30 AM

Feb 2016

...only Bernie can be asked "how" or "what".

olddots

(10,237 posts)

5. happy hours in homeless shelters ?

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Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:49 AM

Feb 2016

free wi fi for day traders ? New uniforms for Wal-mart employees ? Help me out here team .

snot

(10,530 posts)

7. ***crickets***

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Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:24 AM

Feb 2016

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)

8. ACP, an affordable inequality-cutting education subsidy ptogram

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Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:05 AM

Feb 2016

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511305274

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)

9. NO WE CAN'T!

Reply to TDale313 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:11 AM

Feb 2016

It's not pragmatic to make progress. But we can ram through the TPP and TIPP and lobbyists know what else: because Clinton likes to get things done. Wall Street could benefit a lot and maybe, just maybe, some of that will trickle down on hoi polloi...