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The race is tied... 51 Sanders 51 Clinton..in delegates... and Bernie leads the Popular vote.. (Original Post) berniepdx420 Feb 2016 OP
Indeed: and Snaders may well win, coinsidering his numbers KEEP rising. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #1
yes I do believe I agree berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #2
Yes, her narrow NV win does not hide the fact CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #31
(Although I suspect Clinton will pull off some kind of victory in SC) Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #40
K&R cprise Feb 2016 #3
102 of 4,923 delegates have been officially cast. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #4
Sanders had a closer % in NV than Obama did in 2008 Lordquinton Feb 2016 #5
K&R. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #6
This Saturday is a game changer & Next Tuesday well... William769 Feb 2016 #7
RED states??? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #14
Do you need a lesson in Government? William769 Feb 2016 #15
yes - please - I love to learn... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #16
new hampshire is heavily republican. Who won New Hampshire? William769 Feb 2016 #17
Fascinating, isn't it? - no, common knowlege - I want to learn something - please continue.. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #19
That was the lesson for today. William769 Feb 2016 #22
So very sad - no talking point passed out yet! SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #23
LMAO jarrenD Feb 2016 #43
It is not just making fun of them SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #46
Here's a lesson for you Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #44
Too bad Hillary won't win KS and many other red states in the GE. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #56
Texas has a large number of good Democrats who will be voting on Super Tuesday Gothmog Feb 2016 #34
I lived in Houston for more than ten years. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #35
I work with the state party Gothmog Feb 2016 #36
this thread is a great way to start the week - a reminder of Saturdays significant win and precursor DrDan Feb 2016 #8
Thank you! RiverLover Feb 2016 #9
This process doesn't really have an accurate "popular vote" Agschmid Feb 2016 #10
Appearances count for a lot... Orsino Feb 2016 #11
I've lost track. How many times have you posted this same nonsensical tripe? onenote Feb 2016 #12
... SidDithers Feb 2016 #13
Sure...whatever you say..see you next saturday.. workinclasszero Feb 2016 #18
Every time one of you Hillary supporters posts that ROFL guy and mocks a Sanders supporter CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #33
k&R amborin Feb 2016 #20
yawn..... brooklynite Feb 2016 #21
oh you hilliarites are champions at belittlement... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #25
No, we're not. ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #27
The proof held within the majority of your post far out weighs your statement... right ? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #28
Consensus gels that the delegate math is not in Bernie's favor Gothmog Feb 2016 #39
You have the backing of all but the far right wing of the MSM... you have the financial backing of berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #49
As opposed to your side's cutesy insulting nicknames and ad hominem attacks? Beacool Feb 2016 #30
see... you couldn't even not do it in your post above... awesome ! berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #32
probably meeting with her staff, as we speak, discussing dropping out DrDan Feb 2016 #24
Why are you voting for Hillary? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #26
I don't see Bernie as a leader DrDan Feb 2016 #38
K&R CentralMass Feb 2016 #29
Meanwhile in the real world, super delegates get to vote Gothmog Feb 2016 #37
Sure, at the Convention. Right now they are but unhatched eggs. morningfog Feb 2016 #41
Math is hard wildeyed Feb 2016 #45
they haven't voted yet... 51 to 51 and Bernie has the Popular vote... that is the true reality berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #47
After SC, Clinton will be ahead.... and after March 1, she'll be way ahead scheming daemons Feb 2016 #42
aint that special.. and just in case Bernie wins..you got them good ol back room illegitimate, berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #48
Superdelegates been around for decades. scheming daemons Feb 2016 #55
the length of the absurdity doesn't affect the level of absurdity.. What can I tell you.. you berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #58
K&R! Down with 3rd Way, the Vichy Dems Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #50
Clinton ekes out last Nevada delegate to take 52-51 LEAD in delegates won in caucuses and primaries. riversedge Feb 2016 #51
Thats nice. Either way I am voting Bernie. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #54
I wouldn't trot out Superdelegates. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #57
Wrong! DCBob Feb 2016 #52
Smug berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #53
Kick... SidDithers Feb 2016 #59
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
1. Indeed: and Snaders may well win, coinsidering his numbers KEEP rising.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:00 AM
Feb 2016

Clinton, on the other hand, is steadily losing support. Something to do with getting to know the candidates.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
31. Yes, her narrow NV win does not hide the fact
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

that her numbers have been tanking and Bernie's keep on rising.

The delegate count is even and he can still win this.

Obama lost two states in a row--NH and NV--and he prevailed.

No reason that Bernie can't as well.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
40. (Although I suspect Clinton will pull off some kind of victory in SC)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

but otherwise I agree: Sanders will win, and he should. Clinton is a nighmare at the top of the ticket. It would be 2014 all over again, only this time the White House would be lost too. She is unelectable.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
4. 102 of 4,923 delegates have been officially cast.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:42 AM
Feb 2016

And the best part is Hillary blew some 90% or better of her bankroll on the first two states to shut Bernie out early.

We're tied.

It was supposed to be over Feb 10th.

We're tied and just getting started. It's going to be fun watching super delegates switch sides mid April.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
5. Sanders had a closer % in NV than Obama did in 2008
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:49 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary was the expected winner there, so it was more about how close it would be, kinda like NH was for Hillary.

William769

(55,147 posts)
15. Do you need a lesson in Government?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:32 PM
Feb 2016

republicans aren't voting in the Democratic primary, Democrats are.

I'll be happy to teach you what you don't know if you'd like me to.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
16. yes - please - I love to learn...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:34 PM
Feb 2016

Lets start with the swing states.

The cycle, what are the swing states?

William769

(55,147 posts)
17. new hampshire is heavily republican. Who won New Hampshire?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:37 PM
Feb 2016

As to "swing states"

noun
plural noun: swing states
a US state where the two major political parties have similar levels of support among voters, viewed as important in determining the overall result of a presidential election.

Fascinating, isn't it?

jarrenD

(1 post)
43. LMAO
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

Hi -- I literally registered on this site just so I could tell you how hilarious it is that the guy you're arguing with doesn't realize you're making fun of him.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
44. Here's a lesson for you
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

Some of those states have open primaries, like Arkansas, where someone who has voted straight Republican their whole life, could still vote in the Democratic primary if they wanted to.

Just one primary to a customer, though.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
56. Too bad Hillary won't win KS and many other red states in the GE.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:52 PM
Feb 2016

That Bernie has a chance to swing. Yes, I'm saying this point blank. I believe Bernie can win Kansas in the GE and Hillary can't. This is the one time when I will say "No you can't".

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
34. Texas has a large number of good Democrats who will be voting on Super Tuesday
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:12 PM
Feb 2016

Texas has almost three times the number of delegates as Iowa and New Hampshire combined. Good luck with ignoring Texas

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
35. I lived in Houston for more than ten years.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

Great food - #5 on a new list - many good people --

My vote in the general election was always meaningless - that is what your vote is

Sad truth

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
36. I work with the state party
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:26 PM
Feb 2016

There are a ton of good Democrats in Texas working to turn our state blue and a Clinton/Castro ticket vs. Trump or Carnival Cruz could help move the process along. California used to be a reddish state until Pete Wilson ran against the Hispanic population with a platform that sounds like Trump's proposals



I have seen some polling by the state party and a Trump vs. Clinton/Castro fight would be good for the cause of turning Texas blue

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
8. this thread is a great way to start the week - a reminder of Saturdays significant win and precursor
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:07 AM
Feb 2016

to next Saturday

then on to Super Tues

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
11. Appearances count for a lot...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:11 AM
Feb 2016

...and the existence of superdelegates is successfully concealing the tie that Sanders has won so far.

The race can still go either way, but if the public are kept unaware, the myth of inevitability will win.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
12. I've lost track. How many times have you posted this same nonsensical tripe?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:14 AM
Feb 2016

Yes. Bernie leads the popular vote based on the results of a single primary.

Whoop-de-fuckin'-do.

And I say that as a Bernie supporter who finds this kind of crapola tiresome and pointless.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
33. Every time one of you Hillary supporters posts that ROFL guy and mocks a Sanders supporter
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:59 PM
Feb 2016

...Hillary loses 5 votes.

Just sayin.

You guys were notorious for this mocking and bullying in the run up to Iowa. Then, when Iowa was a tie and you were handily beat in NH, we didn't see ROFL guy as much.

Now, that Hillary has won another state, you're into the mocking again.

Some of you just love kicking people that you feel are down. So attractive.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
39. Consensus gels that the delegate math is not in Bernie's favor
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

Good luck with the math http://www.salon.com/2016/02/22/bernie_youre_done_following_nevada_loss_pundits_rush_to_write_sanders_campaign_obits/

But Bernie’s admission belies the foundation of the growing consensus among political pundits following the Nevada caucus: It’s basically over for Sanders. Noting both the delegate count and the coalition (or lacktherof) Sanders’ has amassed, many political observers have returned to calling the Democratic presidential primary an inevitable win for Clinton — even if it hasn’t turned out to be quite the coronation:

New York Times


Noting the amassed delegate math in Clinton’s favor, so far, the Times reports that “the odds of [Sanders] overtaking her growing increasingly remote”:

Mrs. Clinton has 502 delegates to Mr. Sanders’s 70; 2,383 are needed to win the nomination. These numbers include delegates won in state contests and superdelegates, who can support any candidate. She is likely to win a delegate jackpot from the overwhelmingly black and Hispanic areas in the Southern-dominated Super Tuesday primaries on March 1, when 11 states will vote and about 880 delegates will be awarded.

Since delegates are awarded proportionally based on vote tallies in congressional districts and some other areas, only blowout victories yield large numbers of delegates. And Mrs. Clinton is better positioned than Mr. Sanders to win big in more delegate-rich districts, like those carved out to ensure minority Democrats in Congress, where she remains popular.

Slate

“Barring a catastrophe,” Slate’s Jamelle Bouie wrote, Clinton’s “nomination is inevitable” again.

“This doesn’t mean the campaign is over,” Bouie was quick to note, adding that “Sanders is still a formidable candidate.”

“But the uncertainty that has defined the race since New Hampshire is over for the time being. Clinton still has her advantage with black and Latino voters, and in a Democratic primary, that is dispositive,” he concludes.

The fact that Sanders has given up on South Carolina is not a good sign

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
49. You have the backing of all but the far right wing of the MSM... you have the financial backing of
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:44 AM
Feb 2016

Wall Street.. you have the support of the corrupt establishment politicians.. the same politicians who were kind enough to redistribute all our wealth the top few percent of our society.. you have the support of the lobbyist who fight to keep the status quo.. Your campaign is nothing to be proud of... you may win the battle but you may destroy the Democratic Party in the mean time..


We will fight you all the way to the Convention

It's 51 del to 51 del ... good luck

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
24. probably meeting with her staff, as we speak, discussing dropping out
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:53 PM
Feb 2016

looking mighty grim



[King Arthur has just cut the Black Knight's last leg off]
Black Knight: All right, we'll call it a draw.
King Arthur: [Preparing to leave] Come, Patsy.
[King Arthur and Patsy ride off]
Black Knight: [calling after King Arthur] Oh, oh, I see! Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
38. I don't see Bernie as a leader
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:29 PM
Feb 2016

I think he has some good ideas. He's honest. But a leader - no. I see Hillary far more so.

I also have no problem with incremental progress. Throwing for the end-zone on every play gets one nowhere.

Finally - I see her as far more electable. She has been tried and branded for decades. I admired the way she handled herself with Gowdy. She did not buckle. I know the polls show something else with regard to electability - but I just don't buy it.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
41. Sure, at the Convention. Right now they are but unhatched eggs.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

THe pledged delegates are pledged. They count as of now.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
42. After SC, Clinton will be ahead.... and after March 1, she'll be way ahead
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:39 PM
Feb 2016

...and then it's all over but the crying.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
48. aint that special.. and just in case Bernie wins..you got them good ol back room illegitimate,
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:35 AM
Feb 2016

unAmerican, corrupt "super" delegates in your pocket.. seems like a right wing trick

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
55. Superdelegates been around for decades.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:44 PM
Feb 2016

Nothing new, except to neophyte Bernie supporters who just started paying attention to politics in the past 6 months.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
58. the length of the absurdity doesn't affect the level of absurdity.. What can I tell you.. you
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:02 AM
Feb 2016

support a corrupt, illegitimate, unAmerican election process.... that is embarrassing to our Country and our Party.. Democracy is being subverted..time for serious people

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
51. Clinton ekes out last Nevada delegate to take 52-51 LEAD in delegates won in caucuses and primaries.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:53 AM
Feb 2016



Clinton ekes out last NV delegate to take the lead in delegates 52-51!!



Tweets & replies Photos & videos

Brian Fallon ?@brianefallon 12h12 hours ago

Brian Fallon Retweeted Stephen Ohlemacher

AP confirms Clinton's lead in pledged delegates after first three nominating contests

Brian Fallon added,



Stephen Ohlemacher ?@stephenatap 12h12 hours ago

With superdelegates, Clinton has a much bigger lead in the overall delegate race.
Clinton: 503
Sanders: 70
#APDelegateCount
7 retweets 5 likes

Damon Bethea and 1 other Retweeted
Stephen Ohlemacher ?@stephenatap 12h12 hours ago

Clinton ekes out last Nevada delegate to take the lead in delegates won in caucuses and primaries.
Clinton; 52
Sanders: 51
#APDelegateCount
44 retweets 35 likes

Steve Israel and 10 others follow
Devin Driscoll ?@short_pants 16h16 hours ago

According to #APDelegateCount:
Clinton - 503
Sanders - 70



Brian Fallon ?@brianefallon 14h14 hours ago

We have won final delegate in NV CD-4, meaning we won NV 20-15. HRC now takes natl delegate lead, 52-51. Not planning on ever giving it back

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
57. I wouldn't trot out Superdelegates.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:55 PM
Feb 2016

Given the scandal right now with them and the DNC letting some corporate people be Superdelegates.

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