2016 Postmortem

mhatrw

(10,786 posts) Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:32 AM Feb 2016

Sanders Schools Clueless Chuck Todd on the Impact of Citizens United

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/21/bernie-sanders-schools-clueless-chuck-todd-impact-citizens-united.html

CHUCK TODD:

You know, it’s interesting. The guy who had the bigger super PAC of all time had to drop out of the race. Jeb Bush outspent everybody. He it’s arguably had more special interests supporting his candidacy. Isn’t sort of the people already overturning Citizens United, isn’t your message, and Donald Trump, who have done this without super PACs, isn’t this already resonating?

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS:

No, well, in some ways it is. But I think, you know, if you looked at Jeb Bush’s campaign, it’s more than just money. It’s the nature of the candidate and the message and all that stuff. Look, but let me give you an example. Right now, we have raised, as I understand it, Chuck, more contributions from people than Hillary Clinton has. But she’s now going into the super PAC that she has which comes from Wall Street and very wealthy individuals. She will be outspending us in the next number of weeks, precisely because of that super PAC. Do these things matter? Yes, they do.

Todd tried to draw a political connection between Jeb Bush’s flop and Citizens United, but he completely missed the main point. Jeb Bush is out of the Republican race because he ran a terrible campaign. Bush blew through $150 million in three states. He should have had enough money to last through the entire primary. Instead, Bush himself was dialing for dollars in the week before the South Carolina primary. The problem is that Jeb Bush was able to raise $150 million from a handful of the wealthiest Americans. The only reason that Bush dropped out of the race was that the money men closed their checkbooks and decided that Marco Rubio is their best chance to beat Trump.

It was the millionaires and billionaires, not the voters who killed Jeb Bush’s campaign. Bush’s demise had less to do with voters, and everything to do with dollars. It’s the billionaires who are thinning the Republican field.

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Sanders Schools Clueless Chuck Todd on the Impact of Citizens United (Original Post) mhatrw Feb 2016 OP

It was the millionaires and billionaires, not the voters who killed Jeb Bush’s campaign. mdbl Feb 2016 #1

Ding ding ding Duppers Feb 2016 #2

Bad campaign decision to bring in the Deciderer in Chef. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #3

IF the polls said the voters were there for Jeb Duppers Feb 2016 #4

Ridiculous skepticscott Feb 2016 #5

All Jeb proves is that it is harder this campaign system to anoint just anyone with just $. mhatrw Feb 2016 #6

mdbl

(4,973 posts)

1. It was the millionaires and billionaires, not the voters who killed Jeb Bush’s campaign.

Reply to mhatrw (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:37 AM

Feb 2016

I thought it was his brother george.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)

2. Ding ding ding

Reply to mdbl (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:17 AM

Feb 2016

I agree.

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)

3. Bad campaign decision to bring in the Deciderer in Chef.

Reply to mdbl (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:18 AM

Feb 2016

Oh, Dumbya, you've done it again!

Duppers

(28,125 posts)

4. IF the polls said the voters were there for Jeb

Reply to mhatrw (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:19 AM

Feb 2016

the check would have kept coming.

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)

5. Ridiculous

Reply to mhatrw (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:19 AM

Feb 2016

Bush is out of the race because people weren't voting for him, and weren't saying they intended to vote for him. And that was in spite of the fact that he was spending potfuls of money, putting the lie to the fact that money necessarily is the deciding factor. To the extent that his financial support dried up, it was because he was not seen as a candidate who could garner enough support from the voters, no matter how much money he spent.

Does anyone believe that the "millionaires and billionaires" would have withdrawn their support from Jeb if his poll and primary numbers looked like Trump's? As I said, ridiculous.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)

6. All Jeb proves is that it is harder this campaign system to anoint just anyone with just $.

Reply to skepticscott (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:20 AM

Feb 2016

That and the fact that Faux News and the Tea Party have created a monster that the money men cannot completely control.

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