Like breaching an opponent's data?
Faking newspaper endorsements?
Impersonating union officials?
Staffers voting from phony addresses?

Like Hill lying about him over and over. Like orchestrating surrogates to attack him as anti-immigrant, like falsely accusing him of soliciting wall street money. Camp Clinton is the same disgusting entity it was in 2008.

And communist, and suggester of a primary for Obama. And all the other horse shit the other respondent threw at you.

That's the kind of stuff we used to call " taking an opposing position".

I'm an old fart and not used to this revolutionary language. Thanks!

...smirking evilly, rubbing his hands together, with a great big hooked nose...

Hillary's been so vile I wouldn't put antisemitic dog whistling beneath her.

And it is hilarious

The photo isn't really Bernie, he's a Jew not loyal to Isreal, & he's a commie, eh I mean Socailist.

between random followers getting over-zealous,

and the campaign employing slash and burn strategies as a matter of policy.

i don't want the latter in the WH, thank you very much.

Don't be a ratfucker.

Off to the ignore list for you.

Dirty Tricks?

But Clinton 's group didn't see and seize Bernie's data. And pay no mind to that man behind the curtain pulling levers, too. The Clinton camp got caught spying with the fake firewall kerfuffle and then pointed fingers at the sanders camp when they called it out and documented it. Sanders being the gentleman he is ,took the high road then, but he's wiser now and pushes back.

politics or social causes gets tons of this type of thing because they all sell or exchange mailing lists. I can't believe people are trying to get mileage out of this. Some are naive but others know exactly how dishonest they are being when they put this out there. There is no truth at all to your statement that "the Clinton camp got caught spying..." Repeating a false statement doesn't make it true. Ironic that this whole thread is about things that are said ad nauseum. This meme is one of them.

and i noticed it right away, was suspicious right away, and this was a couple days before i read anything about it online.

sheez, you HRCbots win one race outright and instead of winning graciously and moving on, this is what you got.

puke.

And the DNC suddenly panicked, gave him access back, and refused to have that investigation conducted. But hey, nothing to see here.

Oh, wait, that's right. Sanders wanted that. What ever happened?

My plan is too block every last one I come into contact with here and silence them on my end. I just don't see any point in even listening to people who don't do "issues". I feel like every moment I waste on them could have been spent better. After 12 years here, I've seen enough thoughtful, well-written posts be responded to with a rofl smiley and zero content to know who they are, where they are from, and what they want.

Keep up the good fight Cali. I'm in it with you till the very end.

Edited to add: I only see posts 7 and 8. I'll fix that right now. If everyone would block these same few people they would be left talking to themselves and their threads would die quickly.

Start charging a nickel every time that damned ROFL emoji is used as the entire text of a response.

After 10+ years of never "ignoring" anyone, I finally broke down and put nine of the most foaming-at-the-mouth types on my list. That's all it took to make the place much more readable (thank you, Admins!).

Although I must say, there's a potential #10 out there who's rapidly circling the drain.

People who would express enthusiasm or positivity for Bernie would be met with mocking and with that ROFL emoji repeatedly.

If you've ever watched the BP Facebook page after the oil spill--you'll find that this tactic was used often. A PR agency took over BP's Facebook page and their schtick was to drive out people who tried to draw attention to the horrific reality of that oil spill.

Anyone who DARED to point out the oil-soaked birds or poisoned dolphins was mocked, laughed at and descended upon by a vicious gaggle of posters. They would scoff at anyone concerned about the Gulf, then accuse them of harming tourism in the Gulf--and then they'd collectively guffaw at these posters. It was like a hive of hateful sorority girls who would descend until the poster gave up and left.

This tactic is often used when someone is trying to demoralize you and bully you.

It's used by big PR agencies for big corporations who are fighting the American public, and unfortunately, some individuals use this tactic.

It's a form of bullying. It's a device used to make you feel like shit. Don't let it. Anyone who spends their time this way, is someone who isn't worthy of a second thought.

if you can't beat 'em, put 'em on ignore . . .

People will ignore you like a petulant child.

because I've had them all on Ignore since DU3!

Just to clarify.

Her campaign has thrown more than a few of those.

Who aren't clear on political history and processes.

Well, fuck me, then, I guess.

Does Clinton even want the support of progressives if she wins the nomination? If we're so shitty and stupid and ignorant, I can't see why she'd want us voting for her.

only central branch approved progressives are allowed to have an opinion . Got it .

What else is new? They will keep on demanding unilateral disarmament until a Republican takes over for Obama in the White House.

behave like animals. Standards are always applicable in human affairs, particularly in a sphere of a contentious nature.

Before any fellow DUers jump down my throat, I apologise to animals, and also to pre-industrial societies, whose hunter-gatherer ethic relating to governance seems pretty special.

Did Joe Chi Minh really love Cha Chi Minh in real life or was it just for the tv show?

Those were some Happy Days back then.

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we (my schoolmates and I) looked upon him and his Teddy Boy pals as very much larger than life - which they were. At leat the more namby-pamby kind of life that suited us better.

He wasn't academic, went to a very rough school and was perfectly suited to it. Quiet but a fearless fighter. Ended up in his early fifties with most of his teeth knocked out, when he went to help a pal who'd got into a 'contretemps' with some cane-cutters in Queensland, Australia.

I prefer not to risk having to eat my meals through a straw - which he could have ended up doing, had he not been killed in a car accident around Christmas by a drunken driver. I had my school-mates in stitches telling them about the antics he and his pals got up to ; one pal in particular, they would see in the upstairs of a large, local cafeteria called the ABC- they don't exist here any more - sporting a pork-pie hat and leaning in his chair against the wall, with his feet on the table. But he wore that hat properly, like Tuco's nemesis, the County Killer ; not Easter bonnet-style, like the Beastie Boys.

The trains from Enfield to Liverpool St never seemed to go more than 15 to 20 miles an hour, and just to generate a bit of excitement, he'd jump off a train while it was going, to run across the abutting back gardens of houses lining parts of the route, and out into the street in the front of the houses ! Oh, and Soho was Chinatown !

Albie had a pal, Sam, who, if anything, my brother reckoned was madder still, though in a different way. And being serious, not playing around. They had some fun at his expense occasionally, rocking his Austin 7 from side to side, as they sat in the back, while he was driving it.

They always go to the 'you're DEHUMANIZING her and her supporters' line, and then ramble on about how that's the first step to genocide. Because obviously, using an insult that compares someone to a non-human thing is so much more likely to lead to genocide than one that's equally insulting, but based on human traits.

Sanders wins, next step FEMA camps for all Hillary supporters is how it goes in that line of reasoning, I think.

And probably the house and senate too as they are driving base dems, most indies and others not only away from her. But from the party and voting all together. And no, I don't think "the lesser of two evils" thing will work this time as many now see the dems the same as the repugs only more "slicker".

Which is why this black man is glad of how Bernie is handling this. IMO he's acting more like a real dem than Hillary is.

(Oh, and I also go a growing ignore list now)

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

Don't get me started. I'll judge Hillary based on her ethics or obvious lack there of.

"Who are they going to vote for, Trump?"

She loses. Too many people are seeing what behind the door.

Chris Matthews could use it as the name of the coffee shop he'll run in retirement.

Johnny Cueto could be his business partner.

And reverse our head long rush towards climate and ecological catastrophe

bernie is no match for onslaught that will be unleashed on him by conservative/dark money machine....compared to what hillary as dished out at bernie and supporters....if they can;t take this....they have no chance at all against the Koch brothers...which will portray Sanders as the the second coming of Lenin, Marx, and Neville Chamberlain all wrapped into one.....

she will need to vote for her in the GE if she wins the nomination.

Z

Progressives suck until she wants their votes. Then we HAVE to vote for here. Doesn't she/they realize how hard it is going to be to support her after all this shit.

Just count the Hillary trolls on DU.

Nothing gets past us but gas.

Hiller than what? Beanball. Bean ball. Which is it? What is it. Oh wait, I'm so silly thinking there's a point to this.

The concept that the Clinton campaign has been very negative on Sanders is simply false when you look at what Sanders would be subject to if he was the Democratic nominee. VOX had a good article on the potential lines of attack that Sanders would be exposed to if Sanders was the nominee. http://www.vox.com/2016/2/3/10903404/gop-campaign-against-sanders One of the more interesting observations in the VOX analysis is the fact that Sanders have been treated with kids gloves compared to what Sanders would face if he was the Democratic nominee. I strongly agree with the VOX's position that the so-called negative attacks against Sander have been mild. Form the article:

She would be feeding the Republicans with the talking points! (Like they'd need it!)

You're right, Gothmog. If Bernie's supporters can't tolerate even mild criticism of their candidate now, there will be much, much worse coming at him should he win the nomination. Happily for them, it's unlikely that they'll find that out.

The "so-called attacks" and "scorched earth" tactics used by Clinton would pale in comparison to what the GOP, Rove and the Kochs would unleash on Sanders

I'm hardly newly grief stricken. I've had nothing but contempt for the tacky corrupt Clintons for close to twenty years.

And yes, it will be good to see them shuffling off the political stage. The one silver lining in hill losing white house.

They've disgusted me for a very long time.

I will...gladly...pull the lever for him at my polling place vs any and all scumbag nazi republicans, I PROMISE you that cali!

dishonest dem than a corrupt, racist, sexist, batshit crazy republican.

But I am grateful to you as a fellow democrat that we present a united front against the fascist republican party!

Its all evil all the time IMO.

Thank goodness they have always been so respectful and inclusive, such that such complaints about Clinton supporters aren't thin-skinned hypocrisy.

It's so true that NO ONE has noticed Sanders supporters acting like assholes anywhere on the Internet. Totally never happened.

All of the mean people support Clinton.

Obviously,

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1. Hillary Clinton
2. Bill Clinton
3. Dolores Huerta
4. John Lewis
5. Paul Krugman
6. Jared Bernstein
7. Rachel Maddow
8. Unions in Nevada
9. Barack Obama--good collection of quotes here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280101628
10. Black Lives Matter
11. Ta-Nehisi Coates
12. James Clyburn
13. Democratic voters in South Carolina (pending)
14. The Onion

But, the notion that everyone who's an ally of Clinton is an enemy of all that is virtuous and good is pretty psychotic

they are exactly the sort of people I don't want giving any president advice on anything.

will big donors and players try to get access etc, of course.

that's why people have to hold presidents accountable

I'm not sure her inner circle will be as tight as you think it will be. Clinton knows a lot of people, and when issues arise, I'm sure she'll talk with whoever she trusts, and the problem is that she and I don't trust the same people.

He's a full-spectrum slimeball

of full-spectrum slimeballs who will no doubt offer her advice. There's no way to tell how much influence they'll have (if any).

the Clintons have a lot of old friends, and some of them are very good people (e.g. John Lewis and Dolores Huerta) and some of them are sleaze. We have to make sure the good voices get backed up with an external choir.

I don't think there's any way to tell how much influence Blumenthal had.

if she's Preznit, she won't be carrying around a private phone.

It was ugly when she ran against Obama, and it's just as ugly now.

It is worst

Obama, Kerry, Gore, Carter. It's not 'hardball' or 'baseball'. It's just slime.