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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:00 AM Feb 2016

Clinton blows 34 point lead in Massachusetts

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/donald-trump-massive-lead-massachusetts-poll

The Emerson College Polling Society released new numbers from Massachusetts on Sunday night. In two tweets, the group summed up the primary races in the Bay State.

The poll showed Democrats Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton with 46 percent support each.

http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_82a741918bee4d2aa3685dddc0aebff1.pdf

Emerson Poll: Trump Strong in Massachusetts
While Emails Hurt Clinton with Independents.
Bay State Is Mixed on Marijuana but Supports Pats and Police Body Cams.
Boston (Oct. 20, 2015)

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In the Democratic primary, Hillary Clinton leads Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders 59% to
25%, with all other Democrats under 5%. In a sign of trouble for Clinton, 47% of
Independents said her use of a private email server while she was Secretary of State made
them less likely to vote for her, compared to 24% of Democrats who said the same. A
majority of Independents (56%) believe her doing so harmed U.S. foreign policy.
Independents make up roughly half the state electorate.

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Clinton blows 34 point lead in Massachusetts (Original Post) Karmadillo Feb 2016 OP
There is no way those numbers would have stuck vdogg Feb 2016 #1
Don't worry, The DNC has contol over the eVoting Machines Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #25
Lol meanwhile Hillary supporters ... artyteacher Feb 2016 #2
We should since it is a must win for Bernie book_worm Feb 2016 #6
Hillary does not win Independents. Barack_America Feb 2016 #3
This is very true, and in the general election RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #12
Yep... pipoman Feb 2016 #15
Bernie is NOT running as an independent RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #19
Let the DNC screw him and watch the exodus from the party pipoman Feb 2016 #24
Coakley. It's not so crazy. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #23
A tie in Mass is a win for Hillary. DCBob Feb 2016 #4
Can you think beyond the primary, Bob? Herman4747 Feb 2016 #16
Can you think beyond fake scandals? DCBob Feb 2016 #18
Uh huh... Hydra Feb 2016 #29
One of Bernie's best chances for Super Tuesday and he's only tied? book_worm Feb 2016 #5
Lol....you state that as if it already happened.. you do know it hasn't happened, no? pipoman Feb 2016 #10
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #7
Four months ago HillDawg Feb 2016 #8
Yep. They are tied right now, 51 delegates apiece. morningfog Feb 2016 #14
^This is what has them tied up in knots.^ Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #30
Her numbers only go down. bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #31
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #9
I will concede that Bernie has closed the gap nationally firebrand80 Feb 2016 #11
Hillary is still running the same campaign she has been losing with.... pipoman Feb 2016 #17
Desperate much? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #13
Hopeful Karmadillo Feb 2016 #21
Cant fault you for that workinclasszero Feb 2016 #22
Not a problem. We all Karmadillo Feb 2016 #28
hillary's campaign is going to spiral in amborin Feb 2016 #20
I would have liked it you would have ended the post before you said 34 SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #26
But but but she's on a roll... onecaliberal Feb 2016 #27

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
1. There is no way those numbers would have stuck
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:05 AM
Feb 2016

And you know it. There are never going to be that many undecideds on election day. Polls always tighten by election day.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
6. We should since it is a must win for Bernie
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:14 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary is going to win most of the other states that day.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
12. This is very true, and in the general election
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:02 AM
Feb 2016

which matters also, neither RepubliCONs nor Independents will vote for. Some of them WILL vote for Sanders though.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
15. Yep...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:14 AM
Feb 2016

I really don't think there is anything she could say or do which would overcome the dislike of most of those right of center who put Obama in office, in fact that likely goes for left of center independents too....

Of course if Bernie continues to be cheated out of wins he will run as an independent and throw the election to the thugs...

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
4. A tie in Mass is a win for Hillary.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:12 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie needs to win and win big in states like Massachusetts to have any chance at all of winning.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
16. Can you think beyond the primary, Bob?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:16 AM
Feb 2016
In a sign of trouble for Clinton, 47% of
Independents said her use of a private email server while she was Secretary of State made
them less likely to vote for her,


She has a lot of unpleasant baggage, doesn't she?

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
29. Uh huh...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:24 AM
Feb 2016

When comparing one's behavior to Bush Admin officials, saying "They did it too!"

Cuz we all know they were squeaky clean, right?

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
5. One of Bernie's best chances for Super Tuesday and he's only tied?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:13 AM
Feb 2016

Frankly if Hillary manages a a narrow win in MA (or even a narrow loss) it will not be good for Bernie since it's one of the states that he actually has a shot at on Super Tuesday.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
10. Lol....you state that as if it already happened.. you do know it hasn't happened, no?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016

Polls are a joke. Has there been a single poll in this primary season that has accurately predicted a race? No, all Hillary has left is wishful thinking. Super Tuesday will put Hillary out of the race. She couldn't beat a black man with a Muslim name last time, and she is losing to a self described "socialist Jew" this time...she is unelectable.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
30. ^This is what has them tied up in knots.^
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:33 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:03 AM - Edit history (1)

Just 3 or 4 months ago, not very many political pundits even gave Bernie a chance, yet here he is, nose-to-nose with Hillary.

Her campaign only has one way to go from here, down.
When you examine the commanding lead that she had 6 months ago, with the mainstream media only talking about a "Hillary-Trump" General election race, this is what happens.
She did the same thing in 2008, and still hasn't learned anything from it.



bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
31. Her numbers only go down.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:38 AM
Feb 2016

And with them tied nationally right now, that means she's on the losing end of the stick.

Response to Karmadillo (Original post)

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
11. I will concede that Bernie has closed the gap nationally
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:00 AM
Feb 2016

But that doesn't mean he's going to win. An upward trend doesn't necessarily continue to go up.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
17. Hillary is still running the same campaign she has been losing with....
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:22 AM
Feb 2016

And Bernie has done nothing to disrupt his winning streak. Masses of Democrats are disgusted and sick of the DNC corruption which is going to be glaring if Bernie continues kicking Hillary's ass in the popular votes and still gets the nomination. Without a massive move in support for her, if she is nominated, there isn't a chance of winning in November without a repug spoiler....

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