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MSNBC :RNC going on air in South Carolina with anti-Clinton ads (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 OP
Of course they want to help Bernie in the primary book_worm Feb 2016 #1
The ads were designed to engender racial animus. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #5
Like peopel should not be entitled to free access to public colleges? Armstead Feb 2016 #9
I was describing the Republican ads... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #13
I am being snide because conflating Sanders and GOP SuperPac propaganda is wrong Armstead Feb 2016 #15
And Clinton has an immaculate record? RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #7
Lol, nice try! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #16
More a case of... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #17
Maybe they're setting up to try to win SC in November 6chars Feb 2016 #18
Campaign rule #2: "Separate your opposition from their natural base" GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #20
I just call these ads--Sanders PAC's since they help him so much riversedge Feb 2016 #2
Why don't you ask Republicans to stop calling Sanders a communist? Armstead Feb 2016 #10
Saying Clinton is 'too far to the Left' helps Sanders ?! GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #22
They are designed to get out the vote of their base. unapatriciated Feb 2016 #26
Yet we oppose the 1% ruling. mmonk Feb 2016 #28
It has no basis in reality, so of course you do. frylock Feb 2016 #33
K&R CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #3
There's no doubt who they'd rather run against.nt sufrommich Feb 2016 #4
This phony b.s. meme again. Skwmom Feb 2016 #6
I hope you aren't suggesting I made it up... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #8
Oh the outrage. Oh the horror. Oh the whatever. nc4bo Feb 2016 #11
Why would anyone give a shit? Dems will not win SC cali Feb 2016 #12
What ads? How much money are they spending on them? nt mhatrw Feb 2016 #14
Here is their address so you can contact them to learn more. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #19
Lovely.. the RW and Bernie are now tag teaming her. DCBob Feb 2016 #21
Yet Bernie is being criticized by MSM for Not going on the Attack... KoKo Feb 2016 #23
Clinton is their greatest fear. Bring it wingers. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #24
Once again we see that they do not want to run against her KingFlorez Feb 2016 #25
They're starting early because they hate her with the white-hot passion of a thousand burning suns CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #27
Reality. She will bring the righties out in droves mmonk Feb 2016 #29
HRC polls abysmally with Independents CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #31
The RNC is carrying water for BERNIE workinclasszero Feb 2016 #30
Better toughen up. This is nothing compared to what you'll see in the GE. frylock Feb 2016 #32
The RNC really wants to run against Sanders Gothmog Feb 2016 #34

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
1. Of course they want to help Bernie in the primary
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

Many Bernie supporters don't seem to understand that the Republicans want him as the Democratic nominee.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
9. Like peopel should not be entitled to free access to public colleges?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:43 AM
Feb 2016

Oh wait that's a Clnton talking point.

Public universal healthcare coverage is bad..... Oh wait, another Clinton talking point.

Liberalism is communism? Oh wait....

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. I was describing the Republican ads...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:46 AM
Feb 2016

If you want to start a new thread to discuss what you deem important you are more than welcome.

Now, of course you can discuss it in this thread, but I don't see the efficacy in doing so.

Oh, Republicans suck and they shouldn't be meddling in our contests, am I right?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. I am being snide because conflating Sanders and GOP SuperPac propaganda is wrong
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

They want to weaken any Democratic candidate. They think Clinton will wion, but if Sanders shows real strength they'll aim at him too....Some already are.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. And Clinton has an immaculate record?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:41 AM
Feb 2016

I don't think so.
Funny, many RepubliCONs and CONservatives that I speak to would rather vote for Bernie than Clinton or ANY RepubliCON candidate.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
17. More a case of...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:01 AM
Feb 2016

...drag out the primary as long as possible. Both candidates are flawed and I think the GOP attack machine is licking its chops in either case. But they would love to drag out the primary.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
20. Campaign rule #2: "Separate your opposition from their natural base"
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

They don't want Clinton connecting with voters now.

(Rule #1 btw is "Define your opposition before they have a chance to define themselves" but it is too late for that in terms of HRC.)

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
26. They are designed to get out the vote of their base.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:09 PM
Feb 2016

Polls say Clinton will win SC so that would be who they would campaign against. Their supporters are not voting Sanders or Clinton. So stop with the insults. You know after the primaries we will have to come together to fight them not each other.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. I hope you aren't suggesting I made it up...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:41 AM
Feb 2016

Why would they want to run against the Clintons?


They are 2-11 against them, in big races and contests , nonetheless...

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
11. Oh the outrage. Oh the horror. Oh the whatever.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016

Now this will also be laid at the feet of Bernie Sanders.

Welcome to the DU HRC dog and pony comedy revue!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Here is their address so you can contact them to learn more.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:39 AM
Feb 2016

NBC News, 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, N.Y. 10112



You're welcome.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
23. Yet Bernie is being criticized by MSM for Not going on the Attack...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:49 AM
Feb 2016


Bernie has better things to spend money on than Hillary attack ads in a state where the Dem Party and voters are solidly behind her. Bernie is about his message and not a wasteful person with the people's money.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
27. They're starting early because they hate her with the white-hot passion of a thousand burning suns
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:09 PM
Feb 2016

It's clear that Republicans believe that Hillary will be the nominee.

What better time to attack her...when she's right in the state? The Republicans are starting early this year, I guess.

You think the Hillary supporters on DU are ardent.

I canvassed for months on Iowa--and they had me talking to Republicans and Independents. Most of the Indies in my area lean Republican.

I spent so much time in living rooms of Independents and Republicans. I could write a book. They would invite me in, just to tell me that Hillary is the devil. They would drone on and on and on and on. Their rationale for hating her is so different from the reasons why the base of the Democratic party rejects her. We don't like her policies. The Republicans and Independents don't like her policies AND they hate her personally and believe every scandal put out there. They truly hate her like no other politician that has ever existed.

I was tasked with getting some of these Republicans to caucus for Bernie. Some of them, who didn't like their slate of candidates, did caucus for Bernie. However, I never followed up with these frothing-at-the-mouth Hillary haters. I could not, in good conscience, do it. I stopped going to Indie houses in my area, and Republican houses too. I was spending too much time, standing there listening to how much they hated Hillary, and not enough time trying to get Democrats to our caucuses.

I am not surprised by these ads. As a PR practitioner, I understanding the timing. They're attempting to damage the messaging and strategy that HRC is trying to lay down in the state. They think she's going to be the nominee and they're trying to crush that, so she doesn't gain any traction before the GE.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
29. Reality. She will bring the righties out in droves
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:18 PM
Feb 2016

as well as independents who have reservations.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
31. HRC polls abysmally with Independents
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016

Independents are people who are sick of or disillusioned by standard, establishment politics.

Hillary Clinton is the poster child for establishment politics.

That is why they reject her. You can't win a GE without Independents.

I don't know what in the hell the DNC and DWS are thinking. HRC has no path to victory in a GE.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
34. The RNC really wants to run against Sanders
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

Rove and the RNC know that Sanders is the weakest possible general election candidate

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