1. Get a YOB
2. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps

Milton Friedman would be proud.

...I imagine he's more sensitive than you to the concerns from the black community for the fate of these historic colleges and universities.

But, hey, keep going with that.

...and, by the way, Clyburn isn't the first or only advocate of HBCUs to voice concern. Message of the day, my ass.

It would be quire possible to add provisions to provide funding to enable historically black colleges (gee what about private non-black colleges?) to provide an equivalent portion of tuition to students who would who would choose private rather than public colleges .


But it works into the divisive racial narrative, so go ahead and stifle a plan to make public higher education accessible to all as a basic human right.

...I didn't invite all of your other bullshit about 'message of the day' and Milton Freeman.

And you might as well get used to the fact that recognizing race in this campaign isn't an attack on ANYBODY. The little ridicule you're pushing about a 'racial narrative' is absurd.

There IS an ACTUAL racial narrative to HBCUs. Black colleges, black communities, majority black supporters. My point to your initial SNIDE and INSENSITIVE post to me was that this isn't merely about some profit motive, it's an issue of history, pride, as well as the excellence that these institutions have produced in the black community for decades and decades.

If you can't find some understanding of what I'm saying, you're really better staying out of this debate. If you couldn't care less about HBCUs then admit it and move on. I'll keep stressing their importance to the black community, and to the public good.

what is wrong with public non-black schools? that comment is just astounding. SMDH

I am more than happy to discuss issues on friendly non-personal, non-acrimonious terms. I prefer that. I'm actually known in real life as a nice guy who is easy to get along with...But when I see bullshit, I get passionate.

This goddamn primary was opportunistically cast in racial terms by Clinton from the beginning,before Bernie entered it. And it's also had a distinct anti-economic liberal cast.

(In fairness, O'Malley didn't pull that crap. He generally was positive and argued for ideas.)

Sanders was immediately cast as having a "problem" with AAs and Latinos and women before he even said a word as a candidate. That he and anyone who supports him are "racially insensitive white progressives" at best and racist berniebros at worst.

That's bullshit and it raises my ire.

I've been following Bernie Sanders for years and he is very socially progressive. IMO light years beyond Clinton -- but for the sake of argument I will say at least as socially progressive as her.

To be honest, I had stayed away from DU for a while before the primary because of general busyness elsewhere. But when I checked into it at the Beginning of the primary I was appalled at the wrongheaded vitriol being cast against Sanders as an out of touch semi-racist old fart who only cares aboutt economics and not about real people.

It was clearly planned by the Clinton campaign, and it is playing itself to its ultimate conclusion. That that may well be either defeat for Clinton in November -- or a Pyrrhic Victory in which she squeaks in but without broad support.

Those schools are private for a reason...

To me its the same as the charter school BS of K-12 that only hurts already struggling urban school districts.

...he's included them in his tuition plan:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511306311

...but I haven't delved into his complaint yet.

Both camps have been sensitive to the concerns for HBCUs though, and both propose an independent grant to support them, in addition to their other provisions.

I would like to know what folks think of Sander's proposals for HBCUs, though and I wish he'd promote them more. Tuition-free learning would be revolutionary, but there's a lot to reconcile before we even approach it. I think it's more than helpful to have his alternative out there. I hope he can make his position more clear to the community.