Clinton is going to take Sanders to the woodshed in the next 3 weeks. Most pundits see what is ahead

I support Bernie Sanders in the primary, but it is a badge of honor that I have been banned from the Bernie Sanders group and remain a Hillary Clinton group member, whatever that means other than that I refuse to cut off one arm to promote the other.

Thank you Hillary group. I hope you all consider tactics in the event that Bernie wins the nomination. Unfortunately, many of my fellow Bernie supporters are not thinking about what happens if. Many seem to want to burn down the house if they don't get their way, a childish tantrum. I don't see how that works.

I certainly won't be part of that. I cannot think of anything worse than a GOP presidency in 2017.

Apparently many of my fellow Bernie Sanders supporters think that that is okay. I do not.

And to the Hillary supporters, tone down the rhetoric as well.

Which I in no way support. One can promote ones candidate without degrading a fellow Democratic candidate.

And the fucking ridiculous "I cannot vote for the Democratic nominee if it isn't my choice" is by definition a childish tantrum. From either the Bernie or Hillary perspective!

I cannot and will not abide by any such argument. If you do support such a thing, you do not belong here. And good luck with that GOP presidency in 2017 if your argument catches hold.

Many of us who support Bernie Sanders will gladly vote for the nominee no matter who it is. The alternative is too horrendous to consider. Only children would see it otherwise.

I stand by my post.

My best to you.

But I think a Hillary nomination ensures it.

I was banned from the Hillary group and not the Sanders group. "Whatever that means."

Tossing in your last sentence doesn't make the rest of your post any less passive aggressive BS.

I will support the Democratic nominee. That is what is important here.

I confess to being passive aggressive on this topic. "United we stand; divided we fall."

And the childish tactics here help nobody.

My best to you, my friend.

I too am sometimes taken aback by the vitriol some posters exhibit when lobbying for their preferred candidate. I also think that the hypocrisy some posters show when calling for civility in others while not displaying it themselves is worse. Pseudo-polite taglines do not help in that regard.

I prefer to be reasonable, but my patience is being severely tried. I think a scolding is in order. And I am not the only DUer expressing such sentiments, some who are far more prominent than me.

Not to trot out a silly quote but "Divide and conquer!" That is what is happening to us. Those who cannot see that are missing the whole deal.

I stand by posts here. The extent that we do not unite is the extent to which we lose. It is really that simple.

Best regards.

We see a lot of that sort of attitude around here. I am glad you stand by it; the least a poster can do is to own their own words, although a fair few try hard not to. It is difficult to see how you jibe calling posters children while simultaneously bemoaning how we are becoming divided. The answer seems blatantly obvious, and yet you don't recognize it. Such is life at DU I suppose.

Warmest Apathy.

My argument is simple. If one wants to make a difference I would recommend not tearing things apart by stating that they will not vote for the nominee if they don't get their way.

That is, by definition, a two year old's tantrum.

YMMV. So be it.

I will vote for Bernie Sanders in the MI primary, as will many of my friends. Whoever gains the nomination will gain my support and vote in November. The children who disagree, and the rest of the world, may have to equally suffer for their childish tantrums.

I stand by my post.

That term does not mean what you think it means.

Here's the way this works. YOU don't get to decide when it is appropriate to call people names and when it is not, except for yourself. If you call people names, while calling for them to be civil, you are a hypocrite. YM may NOT vary, that is just the way the world works.

Stand wherever you like.

who has not gone full conservative hill hating derangement syndrome ...

What I read here is verbatim what the rush limbaugh addled twits I have to painfully listen to at the gym spew.

It is NOTHING like 08, BHO people were so much more self confident and positive focused.

And I will support any candidate who opposes that. I will start with Bernie. But will support anybody who will be on that side.

With the GOP having a majority in both houses of Congress, the state houses, the governorships, and SCOTUS on the edge, the stakes are just too important.

But idiots here can play their games and not vote for the nominee if they don't get their way, just like two year old pitching a tantrum. Myself, I will look at the bigger picture and acknowledge that in this election it is really, really important that the Democratic Party retains the Oval Office.

Really fucking important!

I get it, Hillary is warmed over, and I like Bernie enough to flip to him like I flipped to BHO from Hillary 8 years ago.

Your point aside, I got fed up with republicans piling on her in the fricken 90s, have no tolerance with it from Dems.

But, to your point ...

YEAH ... Whatever "third way" elements she would bring to the table, she would 1,000,000 times better than Trump's crazy ivan shit, Cruz and wft his game game is, or Rubio being the pretty face to complete republican control of this country.

This all or nothing shit is out of hand.

I would gladly support anybody who would prevent that from happening. The alternative to the most odious of Democratic presidential candidates is something so terrible that those opposing said Democrat will be on their knees begging forgiveness if the GOP wins.

That is why I will support the Democratic Party nominee no matter who it is.

poll?

The answer is clear. Bernie is still rising, he was strong in NV after being back 30-40 points. He has brought the national numbers to a tie. He is tied in the delegate count.

Yet, the narrative is that his campaign is over. Because those pushing it want that to be true.

And come his expected loss in SC< no matter the margin, they will scream: SEE I TOLD YOU ITS OVER1!1!1!

It's transparent and disconcerting.

So, it was a missed opportunity. He doesn't have too many of those left.

There are now 6 sources of news because of the consolidation allowed under.. who was President in 1996 again? Oh yeah, Bill Clinton.

You want truth and objectivity in media.. you need to go back in time.

The PTB don't want Bernie's reforms, because those reforms would mean less money in their pockets, and less control in their hands.

Of course they want Bernie to go away, and they will lie and cheat to see that this goal is achieved before the convention.