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Fellow Bernie Supporters, I smell a rat in Nevada (Original Post) desmiller Feb 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #1
The caucus is over, desmiller Feb 2016 #4
Sigh Bucky Feb 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author desmiller Feb 2016 #20
??? Bucky Feb 2016 #27
Wanting a fair and open election equals conservatism? NWCorona Feb 2016 #40
I deleted the upper post, because it causes some confusion desmiller Feb 2016 #59
Fair enough and that can happen easily. No worries 😀 NWCorona Feb 2016 #61
Six percent is not a small margin. In presidential races it's nearly a landslide. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #65
That same battle will be waiting for us again and again until we address it. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #49
How many percentage points of cheating would you recommend as acceptable? n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #56
I would hope that a serious answer... Orsino Feb 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #62
If you think the "charge" is trumped up, I we old listen to the reason why. Orsino Feb 2016 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #63
That wasn't my premise. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #76
That you think this is "war" is telling. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #68
There have been lots of Rats and I expect many more. NowSam Feb 2016 #2
It's the caucuses. HassleCat Feb 2016 #3
The caucus is over. bigwillq Feb 2016 #5
The caucus may be over but that does not mean an investigation is not warranted.Let the voters monmouth4 Feb 2016 #6
Your unsubstantiated opinion that Hillary is "a pathetic liar and cheat" is noted and Rose Siding Feb 2016 #23
It intrigues me how so many support a documented liar. Broward Feb 2016 #35
I know. They are fine with her cheating and lying 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #42
We wouldn't if we believed she were "devoted to the interests of the moneyed elite" Rose Siding Feb 2016 #46
Yes! While y'all keep busy with that, we'll be over here winning South Carolina. Be sure ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #7
Cause the race was soooo close, with Hillary winning by 6 points! MoonRiver Feb 2016 #9
6 points is a tie & when that line fell through it must be cheating. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #11
Complete desperation MoonRiver Feb 2016 #24
Worse. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #52
Did you know I can read minds? MoonRiver Feb 2016 #58
That is your new tag line angrychair Feb 2016 #19
That "Hillary Hypnosis" is too strong desmiller Feb 2016 #26
you have a lot bigger problems to worry about. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #8
77 posts in 4 yrs giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #10
It's called "being involved" desmiller Feb 2016 #13
"Concerned" giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #16
Sorry desmiller angrychair Feb 2016 #25
I know i can't break this "Hillary Hypnosis" desmiller Feb 2016 #30
Oh please I'm not in the HRC camp, I just find doom & gloom giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #64
Your not? angrychair Feb 2016 #66
My favorite group is usually the AA room, unlike some here I can giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #71
Very happy to hear it angrychair Feb 2016 #73
Ditto. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #74
"Favorite group: Hillary Clinton, 10 posts in the last 90 days (5% of total posts)" desmiller Feb 2016 #70
Desmiller: he will not let it go! Desmiller: he will not let it go! Let me go - go - GO! No no no no Bucky Feb 2016 #17
You are Queen for the day! (If you're into that, I mean.) randome Feb 2016 #36
I smell rats on DU, in this thread RobertEarl Feb 2016 #14
+1 frylock Feb 2016 #18
Yep, same play book. Same donors. Same policies. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #45
Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT Jokerman Feb 2016 #28
This post just showed me that dispite a Clinton victory, desmiller Feb 2016 #39
You would think Bernie would be rasing hell about this workinclasszero Feb 2016 #21
There you have it! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #53
The establishment usually doesn't give the marginalized credit for what they do uponit7771 Feb 2016 #22
Yes Rider3 Feb 2016 #29
Awwww zappaman Feb 2016 #31
It's called a Clinton basselope Feb 2016 #32
Not so bold prediction: some bernie supporters will smell a rat in every caucus Hillary wins MariaThinks Feb 2016 #33
If it acts like a rat, and smells like a rat... 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #47
Every single Hillary victory will contain a rat workinclasszero Feb 2016 #48
Cheer up, Charlie! randome Feb 2016 #34
I thought Sanders fired Josh Uretsky. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #37
Bernie's failures always smell like rat firebrand80 Feb 2016 #38
a dead rat at that redstateblues Feb 2016 #55
If it involves Faux pas Feb 2016 #41
David Brock? desmiller Feb 2016 #43
Thanks, I forgot him. Faux pas Feb 2016 #44
I expect to see someone from the Third Way fornicating the vermin tbth. eom VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #72
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Green Texan Feb 2016 #50
Always a conspiracy when Bernie loses redstateblues Feb 2016 #54
Colrado, another caucus state is coming up. The Sanders camp should demand impartial observers. CentralMass Feb 2016 #60
The way we fight this is to have a large voter turnout to make Cleita Feb 2016 #69

Response to desmiller (Original post)

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
12. Sigh
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:46 PM
Feb 2016

Eyes on the prize, amigo. Every time Sanders loses by a small margin some off-key voices are gonna start whining about the other side must've cheated. Sorry, but that's bullpucky. She won and there were not irregularities.

If you have the time to gripe, you have the time to go find a Sanders phone bank in your area and start calling voters in the next upcoming primaries for GOTV. And then you'll have done something worthwhile, instead of degenerating into a Nevada Causus Truther.

Response to Bucky (Reply #12)

Response to Orsino (Reply #15)

Response to Orsino (Reply #51)

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
57. I would hope that a serious answer...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016

...wouldn't chide us for concern about battles already over.

We should clean house, if investigation uncovers dirty tricks.

Response to Orsino (Reply #57)

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
75. If you think the "charge" is trumped up, I we old listen to the reason why.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:27 AM
Feb 2016

If it's Clinton's reputation you're worried about, I'm not sure what that would have to do with WHT may have been the actions of a few overzealous campaigners, and partly or wholly the result of a flawed process. Or merely unfounded allegations.

Why should the party not look into what happened?

Response to Orsino (Reply #57)

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
67. That you think this is "war" is telling.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:34 PM
Feb 2016

You don't win wars fighting fair, either, right? Wars are about total destruction of the enemy. By any means available.

Response to JackRiddler (Reply #67)

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
3. It's the caucuses.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:24 PM
Feb 2016

That's what the caucus system is for, to help the party regulars fend off bothersome insurgents.

monmouth4

(9,708 posts)
6. The caucus may be over but that does not mean an investigation is not warranted.Let the voters
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016

see what a pathetic liar and cheat she is, whether it changes numbers or not..Let's look at the real Hillary. I caught her act ages ago, she's just on a re-run..

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
23. Your unsubstantiated opinion that Hillary is "a pathetic liar and cheat" is noted and
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:53 PM
Feb 2016

It always intrigues me how those who have the most distrust for The Establishment Media seem to have fallen for their gop fueled attacks against her.

Won't really matter though...


Broward

(1,976 posts)
35. It intrigues me how so many support a documented liar.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:05 PM
Feb 2016

How so many support a candidate devoted to the interests of the moneyed elite.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
46. We wouldn't if we believed she were "devoted to the interests of the moneyed elite"
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:19 PM
Feb 2016

Especially because her record doesn't bear that out.

Every good Dem ever elected has fund raised and every successful one has learned to work with the other side.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. Yes! While y'all keep busy with that, we'll be over here winning South Carolina. Be sure ...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

... to keep us updated with any progress you make getting the results overturned.







Go, Hillary! We love you!

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
11. 6 points is a tie & when that line fell through it must be cheating.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:44 PM
Feb 2016

It couldn't possibly be that ppl found Sanders rallies s lot more important than voting for him.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
19. That is your new tag line
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:50 PM
Feb 2016

"Go Hillary! We love you!"
First, an odd thing to say about a politician. A politician is a public servant. Not a friend or family member.

Second, more importantly, why do you love her? What has she, specifically, done to earn such adoration from you?

desmiller

(747 posts)
26. That "Hillary Hypnosis" is too strong
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:55 PM
Feb 2016

Loving a candidate more than themselves is lethal to any democracy.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
25. Sorry desmiller
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

You don't met the "Hillary Clinton Purity Test©" . Clinton supporters have spoken...you are not allowed to have an opinion in their world...You must be pure.

desmiller

(747 posts)
30. I know i can't break this "Hillary Hypnosis"
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:00 PM
Feb 2016

But I feel pretty good though. My post has started a conversation on both ends.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
66. Your not?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016

Your profile says you are (favorite group is the Hillary Clinton group) and your number of hidden posts would leave someone to assume differently.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
71. My favorite group is usually the AA room, unlike some here I can
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

still hold civil conversations with ppl & not be in a camp. My hidden posts is bc ppl here don't like to hear differing opinions when they are expressed by minorities. I vote next Saturday & as of now it's a coin toss as both have their pros & cons.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
73. Very happy to hear it
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:56 PM
Feb 2016

Not trying to be rude, everyone is a little defensive these days.

I appreciate a strong debate and that is hard to get sometimes because people get offended or never respond back.

Happy to talk anytime.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
17. Desmiller: he will not let it go! Desmiller: he will not let it go! Let me go - go - GO! No no no no
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:49 PM
Feb 2016

OH mama mia, let me go! Beelzebub has a devil set aside for women who don't vote for Clinton!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
36. You are Queen for the day! (If you're into that, I mean.)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:06 PM
Feb 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
45. Yep, same play book. Same donors. Same policies.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:18 PM
Feb 2016

The letter on the end is meant to fool us rubes. (The american people)

Jokerman

(3,518 posts)
28. Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:00 PM
Feb 2016

On Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:50 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

I smell rats on DU, in this thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1307726

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

personal attack on Duers

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Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Explanation: Yup. Clintonites appear to be condoning more dirty tricks. Typical behavior.
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Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

desmiller

(747 posts)
39. This post just showed me that dispite a Clinton victory,
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:09 PM
Feb 2016

there are some fears and insecurities among her ranks. Thanks Jokerman.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
32. It's called a Clinton
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:02 PM
Feb 2016

Work needs to be done on the caucus process.

However, nothing we should fight today.. move on and look towards making Super Tuesday a tie.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
34. Cheer up, Charlie!
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:05 PM
Feb 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
69. The way we fight this is to have a large voter turnout to make
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:38 PM
Feb 2016

sure there is such a large margin in votes that no amount of cheating and other dirty tricks will make a difference. You need to become active in making sure every Bernie supporter you know is registered to vote. When it's time to vote make sure they get to the polls even if you have to organize car pools to get there. There seems to be some scuttlebutt about that voter turnout is lower so we need to make sure that all potential Bernie voters actually vote.

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